Anonymous
03/25/2021 12:40
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
I kind of agree. *shrug*
+1. "Everyone gets a trophy!"
You obviously know nothing about Beauvoir.
There are no trophies, which I think it a good thing. Kids learn to appreciate and value qualities like kindness and being a good friend.
One of my children is highly gifted, and he had no idea until he entered STA, where there is greater emphasis on grades and a more competitive environment.
Bvr also does a great job of meeting students where they are--all students develop a love of reading, but teachers will make sure each kid is getting books that are at their reading level so kids neither feel bored nor overwhelmed, depending.
As for outplacement, we went in not sure about ncs/sta, but that ended up being a good path for our kids. The bvr pipeline is valuable there; sta especially is very hard--very, very hard--to get into, ever. No guarantees from anywhere, even bvr, but bvr is the likeliest path unless you are the legacy kid of a big donor. Even then nothing is 100 percent.
We have been happy with the education both at bvr and sta/ncs for our kids.
Anonymous
03/25/2021 12:24
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
That’s a very ignorant statement. Beauvoir is one of the few schools in the area that follows a developmentally appropriate curriculum. Young kids’ brains are not built for drill and kill. It’s a good way to make learning stressful and anxiety-ridden - one of the many reasons kids have so much academic anxiety these days.
I sent three children to Beauvoir, with very different personalities. They all thrived there. Beauvoir respects childhood and developmental stages, and gives kids a strong conceptual grounding through experiential learning. That’s what many call being too soft on kids. I’ll take it any day.
My DD went to Sidwell and DSes to STA. They all excel academically.
I want to be careful comparing NPS and Beauvoir because I think of them as compatible, not rival schools-both fantastic. I also don't know what the soft on kids comment means... I do want to point out that NPS is not a drill + kill school in any way though. The teaching is quite progressive. I am hard placed to think of any area independent elementary school of the caliber of those being mentioned that is drill and kill. These are not elementary 'cram schools', any of them.
Anonymous
03/25/2021 11:11
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
This is not a good comparison. I actually think NPS is soft and play based in the early years and does a much bigger jump in academics around 3rd grade. I think they are both developmentally appropriate for the early years. It doesn't make sense to compare the schools as BVR ends at 3rd grade and NPS ends at 6th grade.
Anonymous
03/25/2021 11:01
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
That’s a very ignorant statement. Beauvoir is one of the few schools in the area that follows a developmentally appropriate curriculum. Young kids’ brains are not built for drill and kill. It’s a good way to make learning stressful and anxiety-ridden - one of the many reasons kids have so much academic anxiety these days.
I sent three children to Beauvoir, with very different personalities. They all thrived there. Beauvoir respects childhood and developmental stages, and gives kids a strong conceptual grounding through experiential learning. That’s what many call being too soft on kids. I’ll take it any day.
My DD went to Sidwell and DSes to STA. They all excel academically.
You said "one of the few schools". So what are the other schools that follow such curriculums?
Lowell, Sheridan, Washington Waldorf.
You think Beauvoir's curriculum is similar to these progressive schools?!
Anonymous
03/25/2021 10:43
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
I kind of agree. *shrug*
+1. "Everyone gets a trophy!"
You obviously know nothing about Beauvoir.
There are no trophies, which I think it a good thing. Kids learn to appreciate and value qualities like kindness and being a good friend.
One of my children is highly gifted, and he had no idea until he entered STA, where there is greater emphasis on grades and a more competitive environment.
Anonymous
03/25/2021 10:36
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
That’s a very ignorant statement. Beauvoir is one of the few schools in the area that follows a developmentally appropriate curriculum. Young kids’ brains are not built for drill and kill. It’s a good way to make learning stressful and anxiety-ridden - one of the many reasons kids have so much academic anxiety these days.
I sent three children to Beauvoir, with very different personalities. They all thrived there. Beauvoir respects childhood and developmental stages, and gives kids a strong conceptual grounding through experiential learning. That’s what many call being too soft on kids. I’ll take it any day.
My DD went to Sidwell and DSes to STA. They all excel academically.
You said "one of the few schools". So what are the other schools that follow such curriculums?
Lowell, Sheridan, Washington Waldorf.
Anonymous
03/25/2021 10:12
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
I kind of agree. *shrug*
+1. "Everyone gets a trophy!"
Anonymous
03/25/2021 10:08
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
That’s a very ignorant statement. Beauvoir is one of the few schools in the area that follows a developmentally appropriate curriculum. Young kids’ brains are not built for drill and kill. It’s a good way to make learning stressful and anxiety-ridden - one of the many reasons kids have so much academic anxiety these days.
I sent three children to Beauvoir, with very different personalities. They all thrived there. Beauvoir respects childhood and developmental stages, and gives kids a strong conceptual grounding through experiential learning. That’s what many call being too soft on kids. I’ll take it any day.
My DD went to Sidwell and DSes to STA. They all excel academically.
You said "one of the few schools". So what are the other schools that follow such curriculums?
Anonymous
03/25/2021 10:03
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
That’s a very ignorant statement. Beauvoir is one of the few schools in the area that follows a developmentally appropriate curriculum. Young kids’ brains are not built for drill and kill. It’s a good way to make learning stressful and anxiety-ridden - one of the many reasons kids have so much academic anxiety these days.
I sent three children to Beauvoir, with very different personalities. They all thrived there. Beauvoir respects childhood and developmental stages, and gives kids a strong conceptual grounding through experiential learning. That’s what many call being too soft on kids. I’ll take it any day.
My DD went to Sidwell and DSes to STA. They all excel academically.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 22:52
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
I kind of agree. *shrug*
Anonymous
03/24/2021 19:50
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Academically, I would take NPS any day. BVR is too soft on kids, IMO.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 19:14
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
So if outplacement to STA/NCS wasn’t in play, how do the schools compare academically?
Anonymous
03/24/2021 19:02
Subject: Re:Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NPS admits to STA over the past 3 years were by-in-large hooked.
2019: 3 admits, all hooked
2020: 7 admits, all hooked or all but one hooked. There were at least 12 boys who applied to STA from this class and only the ones with hooks got in. My friend's son was unhooked. He did not get in.
2021: I don't know the results
Wow. Where can I find this information? Would the admin people be honest if I ask? Thank you!
If you believe the previous poster, you're crazy. No way would they know this information. Not buying it. I have a kid that came from BVR so I have no dog in this fight but if you all believe this poster, you're crazy.
I have to sign off but I'm not making this up. Clearly I spent too much time worrying about this at the time. It was our top school choice. Our kid is now elsewhere and doing very well so it all worked out in the end.
We just applied kid #2 and he/she is joining his/her sibling.
2019--3 kids came from NPS. 2 were siblings and the third was some kind of hook (NCS sister?). I'm forgetting what exactly. My own son applied and was waitlisted. That year out of 12 or so STA 7th grade admits, 11 were hooked in some way (sibling/URM/VIPs). It was a crazy year--it's not always like this.
2020--NPS was a very boy heavy class (like 60-70%). A bunch applied to STA (12-14?). 7 got in. They were all siblings or legacy. I know because I had good friends in this class. It's not top secret knowledge. Parents talk about admissions and this was a large pool of parents so there was a lot of talk to a lot of people. The kids all landed elsewhere and it all worked out.
2021--I have no idea.
You are welcome to contact NPS to confirm all of this or speak to another parent in one of these former classes.
Anyone else can confirm this story?
Yes, I can confirm this. I'm an NCS/STA parent. 2019 was a crazy year for STA admission - large number of alumni, trustee, and faculty kids applying in the non-Beauvoir pool. 2020 - a number of unhooked boys admitted from NPS. It's not a shoo-in for NPS situation like one of the PPs said. It depends on the field of competition applying each year.
I think you meant something else here - in 2020 - NO unhooked boys got into STA for 7th grade from NPS. That is the story I heard and seems to be the consensus here.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 18:58
Subject: Re:Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NPS admits to STA over the past 3 years were by-in-large hooked.
2019: 3 admits, all hooked
2020: 7 admits, all hooked or all but one hooked. There were at least 12 boys who applied to STA from this class and only the ones with hooks got in. My friend's son was unhooked. He did not get in.
2021: I don't know the results
Wow. Where can I find this information? Would the admin people be honest if I ask? Thank you!
If you believe the previous poster, you're crazy. No way would they know this information. Not buying it. I have a kid that came from BVR so I have no dog in this fight but if you all believe this poster, you're crazy.
I have to sign off but I'm not making this up. Clearly I spent too much time worrying about this at the time. It was our top school choice. Our kid is now elsewhere and doing very well so it all worked out in the end.
We just applied kid #2 and he/she is joining his/her sibling.
2019--3 kids came from NPS. 2 were siblings and the third was some kind of hook (NCS sister?). I'm forgetting what exactly. My own son applied and was waitlisted. That year out of 12 or so STA 7th grade admits, 11 were hooked in some way (sibling/URM/VIPs). It was a crazy year--it's not always like this.
2020--NPS was a very boy heavy class (like 60-70%). A bunch applied to STA (12-14?). 7 got in. They were all siblings or legacy. I know because I had good friends in this class. It's not top secret knowledge. Parents talk about admissions and this was a large pool of parents so there was a lot of talk to a lot of people. The kids all landed elsewhere and it all worked out.
2021--I have no idea.
You are welcome to contact NPS to confirm all of this or speak to another parent in one of these former classes.
Anyone else can confirm this story?
Yes. NP and I can.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 13:31
Subject: Beauvoir or NPS?
Anonymous wrote:How's BVR children applying out to other schools (Sidwell, GDS, etc)?
Heard it was great this past year, with the new HOS. It always depends somewhat on the kids in a particular class, though. The year my DD got in, I think only one other Beauvoir kid got in. I heard that the kids that year did rather badly on the entrance exams given by Sidwell and NCS/STA, which might mean the class as a whole weren't as bright as other classes. Don't let anyone fool ya. The tests matter.