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The Yorktown score seems off. It’s even lower than the W-L score.

Many an anomaly that year (2016)?

Anyway, looking at SAT scores is just looking at SES.

The super-high-achievers in Yorktown zone can transfer to W-L for the IB Diploma program. There's no equivalent transfers to Yorktown.

ALL the traffic is in close-in Arlington/DC (bridges, DUH), except maybe PM traffic on the 50 corridor outside of 7 Corners.

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Anonymous wrote:Yorktown vs Whitman SAT data for those that don’t want to do the research and comb through data.

Yorktown
Asian = 1786
Black = 1506
Hispanic = 1610
White = 1788

Whitman
Asian = 1901
Black = 1561
Hispanic = 1827
White = 1917

Whitman like Yorktown is within the Beltway and close to DC. Housing prices are demographics are similar.

I was looking at W-L data since that is more popular than YHS. It’s also 34% FARMS. How about Whitman?

W-L
Asian 1582
Black 1523
Hispanic 1442
White 1856

Did you find the breakdown by FARM vs non-FARM scores?

There are unique populations in Arlington that make even comparing by “race” less meaningful.

SES would make more sense.

Right, many of the Asian for instance masks the fact that a large part of them of lower SES Vietnamese and Mongolian vs wealthy Chinese immigrants in McLean. You can paint a broad brush like that.

This still doesn’t account for why white kids who go to Einstein are scoring higher than white kids in Yorktown, when the average price of a home in Einstein’s district is more than half what it is in Yorktown. These are homes sold in the past 3 months in Einstein’s district:

https://www.redfin.com/school/134958/MD/Kensington/Albert-Einstein-High-School/filter/include=sold-3mo

Past 3 months in Yorktown district:

https://www.redfin.com/school/111867/VA/Arlington/Yorktown-High-School/filter/include=sold-3mo

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yorktown vs Whitman SAT data for those that don’t want to do the research and comb through data.

Yorktown
Asian = 1786
Black = 1506
Hispanic = 1610
White = 1788

Whitman
Asian = 1901
Black = 1561
Hispanic = 1827
White = 1917

Whitman like Yorktown is within the Beltway and close to DC. Housing prices are demographics are similar.

I was looking at W-L data since that is more popular than YHS. It’s also 34% FARMS. How about Whitman?

W-L
Asian 1582
Black 1523
Hispanic 1442
White 1856

Did you find the breakdown by FARM vs non-FARM scores?

There are unique populations in Arlington that make even comparing by “race” less meaningful.

SES would make more sense.

Right, many of the Asian for instance masks the fact that a large part of them of lower SES Vietnamese and Mongolian vs wealthy Chinese immigrants in McLean. You can paint a broad brush like that.

This still doesn’t account for why white kids who go to Einstein are scoring higher than white kids in Yorktown, when the average price of a home in Einstein’s district is more than half what it is in Yorktown. These are homes sold in the past 3 months in Einstein’s district:

https://www.redfin.com/school/134958/MD/Kensington/Albert-Einstein-High-School/filter/include=sold-3mo

Past 3 months in Yorktown district:

https://www.redfin.com/school/111867/VA/Arlington/Yorktown-High-School/filter/include=sold-3mo

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yorktown vs Whitman SAT data for those that don’t want to do the research and comb through data.

Yorktown
Asian = 1786
Black = 1506
Hispanic = 1610
White = 1788

Whitman
Asian = 1901
Black = 1561
Hispanic = 1827
White = 1917

Whitman like Yorktown is within the Beltway and close to DC. Housing prices are demographics are similar.

I was looking at W-L data since that is more popular than YHS. It’s also 34% FARMS. How about Whitman?

W-L
Asian 1582
Black 1523
Hispanic 1442
White 1856

Did you find the breakdown by FARM vs non-FARM scores?

There are unique populations in Arlington that make even comparing by “race” less meaningful.

SES would make more sense.

Right, many of the Asian for instance masks the fact that a large part of them of lower SES Vietnamese and Mongolian vs wealthy Chinese immigrants in McLean. You can paint a broad brush like that.

Anonymous wrote:In many ways it’s just the best of what can only be deemed an overall nova suburban hellscape. No one wants to live in Arlington. It’s just that many feel compelled to.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yorktown vs Whitman SAT data for those that don’t want to do the research and comb through data.

Yorktown
Asian = 1786
Black = 1506
Hispanic = 1610
White = 1788

Whitman
Asian = 1901
Black = 1561
Hispanic = 1827
White = 1917

Whitman like Yorktown is within the Beltway and close to DC. Housing prices are demographics are similar.

I was looking at W-L data since that is more popular than YHS. It’s also 34% FARMS. How about Whitman?

W-L
Asian 1582
Black 1523
Hispanic 1442
White 1856

Did you find the breakdown by FARM vs non-FARM scores?

There are unique populations in Arlington that make even comparing by “race” less meaningful.

SES would make more sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is the hottest area because NOVA is hot for jobs and real estate.
Arlington just seems hotter than other parts of NOVA because it is so small. Let’s be real here, we really mean north Arlington when people on this bored post 99% of the time.

Arlington is more expensive than places like fairfax or whatever because of its location and urban-like areas on orange line.

I agree people usually mean north Arlington when they say only Arlington but in this instance south Arlington is just as hot or hotter, and appreciating faster (at least at certain price points). Literally the only advantage north Arlington ever had was the schools, and now it’s clear they are all crap.

Why is this? There are no Metro stops anywhere in South Arlington, right?

Yes of course there are!!! Pentagon city, crystal city, the airport, and the new one at Potomac Yards (technically Alexandria but right on the border of Arlington).

Also the metro is permanently closing stations in north Arlington because ridership is down, so I don’t think the metro is as desirable as it once was.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington is the hottest area because NOVA is hot for jobs and real estate.
Arlington just seems hotter than other parts of NOVA because it is so small. Let’s be real here, we really mean north Arlington when people on this bored post 99% of the time.

Arlington is more expensive than places like fairfax or whatever because of its location and urban-like areas on orange line.

I agree people usually mean north Arlington when they say only Arlington but in this instance south Arlington is just as hot or hotter, and appreciating faster (at least at certain price points). Literally the only advantage north Arlington ever had was the schools, and now it’s clear they are all crap.

And south Arlington will be the first to have prices fall. A lot. No reason to live in high crime area with lousy schools if you don’t have to. Many upper middle class families only live in south Arlington because of the proximity to work. If they can, they move. Even for pandemic a large portion of south Arlington families leave before kids get old enough for school, or sometime in mid elementary school when they realize just how big the educational disparities are between poor south Arlington schools and north Arlington.

When I got 2/3 permanent work from home we moved to western ffx county for better schools and twice the house. And no drug dealing a couple doors down on the Pike.

Everything you said would have been true perhaps five years ago, definitely ten years ago, but is not true today. I don’t have a dog in the fight it’s just true - South Arlington is continuing to gentrify and the prices reflect that.

Sort of. I agree things are hot now, but people are buying in south Arlington who already live in south Arlington. They are moving from a rental or smaller place. And, they are still priced out of north Arlington. And the gentrification is focused on the mid and eastern end of the pike. The western end is slated for a huge amount of affordable housing over the next several years that will limit gentrification. As the new storefronts remain empty, things will slide back down. South Arlington can never really gentrify when it has a large cluster of schools with very high rates of student poverty.

North Arlington only has one pocket of poverty, buckingham, which is right on the border with south Arlington. That enclave doesn’t give north Arlington diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington is the hottest area because NOVA is hot for jobs and real estate.
Arlington just seems hotter than other parts of NOVA because it is so small. Let’s be real here, we really mean north Arlington when people on this bored post 99% of the time.

Arlington is more expensive than places like fairfax or whatever because of its location and urban-like areas on orange line.

I agree people usually mean north Arlington when they say only Arlington but in this instance south Arlington is just as hot or hotter, and appreciating faster (at least at certain price points). Literally the only advantage north Arlington ever had was the schools, and now it’s clear they are all crap.

And south Arlington will be the first to have prices fall. A lot. No reason to live in high crime area with lousy schools if you don’t have to. Many upper middle class families only live in south Arlington because of the proximity to work. If they can, they move. Even for pandemic a large portion of south Arlington families leave before kids get old enough for school, or sometime in mid elementary school when they realize just how big the educational disparities are between poor south Arlington schools and north Arlington.

When I got 2/3 permanent work from home we moved to western ffx county for better schools and twice the house. And no drug dealing a couple doors down on the Pike.

Everything you said would have been true perhaps five years ago, definitely ten years ago, but is not true today. I don’t have a dog in the fight it’s just true - South Arlington is continuing to gentrify and the prices reflect that.

Sort of. I agree things are hot now, but people are buying in south Arlington who already live in south Arlington. They are moving from a rental or smaller place. And, they are still priced out of north Arlington. And the gentrification is focused on the mid and eastern end of the pike. The western end is slated for a huge amount of affordable housing over the next several years that will limit gentrification. As the new storefronts remain empty, things will slide back down. South Arlington can never really gentrify when it has a large cluster of schools with very high rates of student poverty.

North Arlington only has one pocket of poverty, buckingham, which is right on the border with south Arlington. That enclave doesn’t give north Arlington diversity.