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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

We can afford Michigan too and hubby is happy because he is an alum. I personally find it maddening that our well qualified kid can’t get into their own state flagship especially after paying taxes in Virginia for 25+ years. Rant over and congrats to those that got into UVA. Go Blue!

Not meaning to take this topic a different direction, but.. If your kid had gotten into UVA, would you still be sending him to Michigan? Other than cost, why or why not? Stalking around and gathering inputs for our Junior.. Thanks!

UM and UVA are comparable peer schools, particularly for DC's intended fields of study. If he had gone to UVA, he would have done Economics or McIntyre (Commerce).

UM does have a stronger global reach and one of the largest alumni networks in the world (500,000+ persons). However, if DC were definitely to stay around the DC region, I would have pushed UVA more because UVA has a stronger network locally.

At the end of the day, DC did not want to go to college with the same social networks that were in his high school. That's why he didn't want to go to VT, either.

UM and UVA are both great schools, and I will not get into the UVA-bashing that goes on here. I would have been happy for him to go to either school, but UM has been his #1 choice since he was quite young.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

We can afford Michigan too and hubby is happy because he is an alum. I personally find it maddening that our well qualified kid can’t get into their own state flagship especially after paying taxes in Virginia for 25+ years. Rant over and congrats to those that got into UVA. Go Blue!

Not meaning to take this topic a different direction, but.. If your kid had gotten into UVA, would you still be sending him to Michigan? Other than cost, why or why not? Stalking around and gathering inputs for our Junior.. Thanks!

PP, there is an entire thread on Michigan (OOS) vs UVA (in state) if your junior is engineering/CS inclined.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

We can afford Michigan too and hubby is happy because he is an alum. I personally find it maddening that our well qualified kid can’t get into their own state flagship especially after paying taxes in Virginia for 25+ years. Rant over and congrats to those that got into UVA. Go Blue!

Not meaning to take this topic a different direction, but.. If your kid had gotten into UVA, would you still be sending him to Michigan? Other than cost, why or why not? Stalking around and gathering inputs for our Junior.. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:^^ UVA needs to increase its share of first-generation students to compete with UCLA and UMich. It will improve its US news ranking. 695 offered in EA/ED round is actually not that many. UVA makes roughly 9000 offers each year. So it's not even 10%. UVA's yield is only around 40%. Don't equate the admitted number with the final enrollment.

So this is another exercise in colleges slavishly doing whatever is needed to jump
In the rankings. Public universities should not be playing that game.

Perhaps UVA needs to grow a bit. Virginia has 8.5 million residents and its flagship only serves 17,000 undergraduates, 35% of whom are OOS. You can have a highly ranked elite public school with 30,000 undergraduates. Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA seem to manage it quite well.

+2 Grow UVA and increase the in state percentage. Ridiculous I have to spend $70k a year to send my kid to Michigan when we are Virginia residents.

This is exactly what I am doing; my son is Ann Arbor-bound. Fortunately we had enough in the 529 to pay for this eventuality, and UM was his first choice!

However, I do agree with you. At this rate, UVA, VT and W&M are all going to become out of reach for most NOVA applicants.

We can afford Michigan too and hubby is happy because he is an alum. I personally find it maddening that our well qualified kid can’t get into their own state flagship especially after paying taxes in Virginia for 25+ years. Rant over and congrats to those that got into UVA. Go Blue!

Ohio native here: Muck Fichigan.

(I say that in good humor)

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

Yet you're convinced it's the ES that made the difference as opposed to the over 75 percentile stats. Ok.

if you’re applying from NOVA you need at least 75th percentile stats. If you don’t know that you need to educate yourself better before posting.

I take it reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

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Anonymous wrote:stats are up on Dean J's blog. Net net:

16,000+ regular decision apps
965 acceptances (14% of in state and 3% of OOS)

Absolutely brutal.
http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com

just adding:
overall acceptances stats:

48,011 applications
28% percent in state accepted
17% OOS accepted

28% accepted DID not submit scores.

Any college with test-optional policy has to admit around 30% from applicants without test scores. Otherwise it will open to criticism about whether the college is serious about its own policy.

Can the Eagle Scout obsessed poster(s) please SHUT UP???

OP - did your son get in?

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

Yet you're convinced it's the ES that made the difference as opposed to the over 75 percentile stats. Ok.

if you’re applying from NOVA you need at least 75th percentile stats. If you don’t know that you need to educate yourself better before posting.

Go google Eagle Scout and college admissions and read and read and read.

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Anonymous wrote:My Eagle Scout with similar stats to OP did not get into UVA RD.

Mine did, as did three friends in his troop. All Eagles. Pus they had the necessary stats.

Stats were what?

at about or over the 75th percentile.

Yet you're convinced it's the ES that made the difference as opposed to the over 75 percentile stats. Ok.

NP. Dean J specifically addressed this in one of her Instagram live Q&As. She said that Eagle Scout was treated no indifferently than any other extracurricular.

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Exactly. To say otherwise is lunacy.