Anonymous
Post 02/24/2021 08:46     Subject: Re:Legal action

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





You don’t believe me? I’m sorry. I’m being honest. Workload has been heavy, but our gloves have not been turned upside down. A little bumpy perhaps, by my health and mental health are fine. We’ve been working from the classroom since the beginning of September which has helped.


Then
1. You won't necessarily be interacting with anyone..no socializing
2. Your parents are deceased or you never see them anyway. You are not a caregiver or first line family member.
3. You don't have kids or grandkids.
4. You've made peace with getting the virus or you've been vaccinated, which has no impact on spreading, but, then, you aren't planning on seeing anyone.


1. I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you saying no interacting while in school? Outside of school? We aren't going to large gatherings but we interact with others. We attended socially distanced outdoor street gatherings this past summer and fall. We saw others at the pool. I talk to others in school and eat lunch together at a distance. Why would we not socialize at all?
2. My mother is 77 y/o. I'd say we see her on average about once a month since she is about 2 hours away. We got together with her and my brother's family over Thanksgiving. Rented a house.
3. Our child is out of the house except during college breaks.
4. We never had to "make peace" with getting the virus. We've never been fearful of it. Again, I'm not sure why you say we aren't planning on seeing anyone. We've been working from the classroom so that we CAN see people.


So what you're saying is you're handling this pandemic in a safe but rational way, understanding the risks and mitigating them? You're listening to science that says it's safe to live life with appropriate precautions, but not being so draconian that it affects your mental health?

How do we get you to run for the school board?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2021 20:44     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:Aaaand, we're off to the races: https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2021/02/fairfax-parent-says-it-took-4-days-to-learn-of-sons-potential-covid-19-exposure/?fbclid=IwAR0Kstg9E07DBenjzpV4ef_v7kTz-TH0qiH4ZuhzMo23f4g_SGnr4ZO6Tn0


Yep. And THIS is why I have to stay 6 feet away from students even when they are in person and it would be helpful to sit next to them while helping with their work. Inevitably, I will get blamed for giving a child COVID. 🙁
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2021 20:38     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





You don’t believe me? I’m sorry. I’m being honest. Workload has been heavy, but our gloves have not been turned upside down. A little bumpy perhaps, by my health and mental health are fine. We’ve been working from the classroom since the beginning of September which has helped.


Then
1. You won't necessarily be interacting with anyone..no socializing
2. Your parents are deceased or you never see them anyway. You are not a caregiver or first line family member.
3. You don't have kids or grandkids.
4. You've made peace with getting the virus or you've been vaccinated, which has no impact on spreading, but, then, you aren't planning on seeing anyone.


1. I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you saying no interacting while in school? Outside of school? We aren't going to large gatherings but we interact with others. We attended socially distanced outdoor street gatherings this past summer and fall. We saw others at the pool. I talk to others in school and eat lunch together at a distance. Why would we not socialize at all?
2. My mother is 77 y/o. I'd say we see her on average about once a month since she is about 2 hours away. We got together with her and my brother's family over Thanksgiving. Rented a house.
3. Our child is out of the house except during college breaks.
4. We never had to "make peace" with getting the virus. We've never been fearful of it. Again, I'm not sure why you say we aren't planning on seeing anyone. We've been working from the classroom so that we CAN see people.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2021 19:06     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





You don’t believe me? I’m sorry. I’m being honest. Workload has been heavy, but our gloves have not been turned upside down. A little bumpy perhaps, by my health and mental health are fine. We’ve been working from the classroom since the beginning of September which has helped.


Then
1. You won't necessarily be interacting with anyone..no socializing
2. Your parents are deceased or you never see them anyway. You are not a caregiver or first line family member.
3. You don't have kids or grandkids.
4. You've made peace with getting the virus or you've been vaccinated, which has no impact on spreading, but, then, you aren't planning on seeing anyone.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 21:03     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:The teachers who are refusing the vaccine are the same teachers who will stand within six feet of children.


You don't know that this person refused the vaccine. If they were in Group 3 and followed the county's schedule, they did not have two full weeks after getting the second vaccine before students returned.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 19:56     Subject: Re:Legal action

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Anonymous wrote:The teachers who are refusing the vaccine are the same teachers who will stand within six feet of children.


How many of these can there be? Every teacher I know is done with dose one and most dose 2. My spouse and I are both teachers and can't think of anyone refusing the vaccine.


Same here. It is probably a very small amount of teachers.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 19:49     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:The teachers who are refusing the vaccine are the same teachers who will stand within six feet of children.


How many of these can there be? Every teacher I know is done with dose one and most dose 2. My spouse and I are both teachers and can't think of anyone refusing the vaccine.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 19:44     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





You don’t believe me? I’m sorry. I’m being honest. Workload has been heavy, but our gloves have not been turned upside down. A little bumpy perhaps, by my health and mental health are fine. We’ve been working from the classroom since the beginning of September which has helped.


Should read "lives have not been turned...", but the same holds true for our gloves.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 19:28     Subject: Re:Legal action

The teachers who are refusing the vaccine are the same teachers who will stand within six feet of children.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 18:52     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





Yeah, I agree. All the teachers I know are anxiety ridden.


Well, we are definitely not ridden with anxiety but we were able to do quite a bit in the summer and fall. Even this winter we haven’t been shut-ins.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 18:51     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





You don’t believe me? I’m sorry. I’m being honest. Workload has been heavy, but our gloves have not been turned upside down. A little bumpy perhaps, by my health and mental health are fine. We’ve been working from the classroom since the beginning of September which has helped.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 16:54     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.





Yeah, I agree. All the teachers I know are anxiety ridden.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 16:50     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.


Don't believe you or you are really not representative of teachers who are unvaccinated. Their lives really have been turned upside down. Their health, interactions with others to contain transmission will be limited, and their mental health ( anxiety) is compromised, not to mention work load issues.



Anonymous
Post 02/22/2021 12:48     Subject: Re:Legal action

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers could have been national heroes. "Getting kids back into the classrooms is the most important thing. Parents are great, but nothing can replace in-person instruction from qualified and trained educators. That's why we're doing everything we can to get back to in-person instruction at the start of the 2020-2021 school year. We can do this safely for everyone. We will make this happen."

National heroes. You'd have a lot less resistance getting those billions for teacher's salaries had you actually put the kids first.

Whoever has been advising the Association/Federation on PR and policy should be fired.


Back in July, I wasn't going to be a national hero at the risk of my health and my family's health. I do agree that things are different now. But 6 months ago, no.


What's different now? Why are you willing to risk your life now?


DP. The vaccine is a huge game changer for a lot of us. The school board will never admit it because they want to sell confidence in their mitigation measures, but very few teachers or staff thought any of that was going to keep us safe. I think there are still going to be issues with students getting sick and transmitting it especially at the secondary level, and major problems with staffing because so many people quit before they had a chance to be vaccinated, but at least most staff members don’t live in constant worry of being in the Petri dish once we’re two weeks out. I was also in person in the fall, and I can tell you the difference is palpable.


DP here, ES. I was ready to teach in person back in July. I’ve had my second vaccine dose so I’m even more ready now. I’m not thrilled about concurrent instruction but it at least moves us to getting students back in the buildings.

Two Teacher HH, both with the same opinion.