Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

We don’t. No large employers are doing this for their remote work force. Why do people think schools should be any different?

Different calculus for employees actually working in person, obviously.

Yes. It’s the same crew of like 10 people that just post the same shit over and over. And apparently there’s a rally this weekend? The same weekend when many of them are being vaccinated? I hope these folks need to sign a commitment to return in person before they are given a jab.

Oh my God. It will literally be a 10 person rally. I’m an APS teacher. We’re getting vaccinated- we’re done. We’re happy this hell is over.

Anyone know how the rally turned out?

I know this for sure- there are about 100 Open Schools now signs for any and every car there today. And I think it all should stop. I recognize he hadn’t set dates yet (which I get and appreciate), but it will happen. This craziness is coming to an end.

+1. I am on an APS teacher group and it’s really about 20 people who are quite frankly obsessed with preventing the return to school, same with APE parents. There are plenty of people in the middle but at this point the back and forth needs to end.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

We don’t. No large employers are doing this for their remote work force. Why do people think schools should be any different?

Different calculus for employees actually working in person, obviously.

Yes. It’s the same crew of like 10 people that just post the same shit over and over. And apparently there’s a rally this weekend? The same weekend when many of them are being vaccinated? I hope these folks need to sign a commitment to return in person before they are given a jab.

Oh my God. It will literally be a 10 person rally. I’m an APS teacher. We’re getting vaccinated- we’re done. We’re happy this hell is over.

Anyone know how the rally turned out?

I know this for sure- there are about 100 Open Schools now signs for any and every car there today. And I think it all should stop. I recognize he hadn’t set dates yet (which I get and appreciate), but it will happen. This craziness is coming to an end.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

We don’t. No large employers are doing this for their remote work force. Why do people think schools should be any different?

Different calculus for employees actually working in person, obviously.

Yes. It’s the same crew of like 10 people that just post the same shit over and over. And apparently there’s a rally this weekend? The same weekend when many of them are being vaccinated? I hope these folks need to sign a commitment to return in person before they are given a jab.

Oh my God. It will literally be a 10 person rally. I’m an APS teacher. We’re getting vaccinated- we’re done. We’re happy this hell is over.

Anyone know how the rally turned out?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to COVID data for teachers that have not returned to school?

We don’t. No large employers are doing this for their remote work force. Why do people think schools should be any different?

Different calculus for employees actually working in person, obviously.

Yes. It’s the same crew of like 10 people that just post the same shit over and over. And apparently there’s a rally this weekend? The same weekend when many of them are being vaccinated? I hope these folks need to sign a commitment to return in person before they are given a jab.

Oh my God. It will literally be a 10 person rally. I’m an APS teacher. We’re getting vaccinated- we’re done. We’re happy this hell is over.

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Anonymous wrote:This data is meaningless. Anyone using it to argue for or against return is silly.

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Also, of 10 cases in one school ALL caught it outside of school. Most after weekends or trips away.

Okay. So- I’ve got to say- I really don’t think it matters where they got it. The point is that schools are indoor, congregate spaces, and now it’s there. You cannot trace asymptomatic spread, so all those APE folks saying it’s safe at schools open everywhere, as numbers rise- bullshit. Vaccine does it for me, but no way in hell anyone can convince me it was a good idea before then. I still worry about the kids, but I am looking at those that are really suggesting at home, and figure it may be worth the risk to those families.

Really struggling, I mean!

Agree. Won’t send mine anytime third quarter. But if teachers are vaccinated and other families want to send their kids I guess that’s fine. I think the schools should make parents sign informed consent forms though. Waive liability. Etc.

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Anonymous wrote:This data is meaningless. Anyone using it to argue for or against return is silly.

Exactly
Also, of 10 cases in one school ALL caught it outside of school. Most after weekends or trips away.

Okay. So- I’ve got to say- I really don’t think it matters where they got it. The point is that schools are indoor, congregate spaces, and now it’s there. You cannot trace asymptomatic spread, so all those APE folks saying it’s safe at schools open everywhere, as numbers rise- bullshit. Vaccine does it for me, but no way in hell anyone can convince me it was a good idea before then. I still worry about the kids, but I am looking at those that are really suggesting at home, and figure it may be worth the risk to those families.

Really struggling, I mean!

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Anonymous wrote:This data is meaningless. Anyone using it to argue for or against return is silly.

Exactly
Also, of 10 cases in one school ALL caught it outside of school. Most after weekends or trips away.

Okay. So- I’ve got to say- I really don’t think it matters where they got it. The point is that schools are indoor, congregate spaces, and now it’s there. You cannot trace asymptomatic spread, so all those APE folks saying it’s safe at schools open everywhere, as numbers rise- bullshit. Vaccine does it for me, but no way in hell anyone can convince me it was a good idea before then. I still worry about the kids, but I am looking at those that are really suggesting at home, and figure it may be worth the risk to those families.

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Anonymous wrote:This data is meaningless. Anyone using it to argue for or against return is silly.

Exactly
Also, of 10 cases in one school ALL caught it outside of school. Most after weekends or trips away.

Anonymous wrote:This data is meaningless. Anyone using it to argue for or against return is silly.

Anonymous wrote:I know quite a few who did not get a slot. They should have offered to people in-person right now first and they didn’t. And they sent out the sign up at 11:00 last night, sane people were already in bed and they missed signing up. Ridiculous process and rollout.

Why are we going in for 2 days before the 2nd dose? Seems utterly ridiculous to throw us together and if not to have us working from isolated rooms while we log on to virtual PD.

Anonymous wrote:I know quite a few who did not get a slot. They should have offered to people in-person right now first and they didn’t. And they sent out the sign up at 11:00 last night, sane people were already in bed and they missed signing up. Ridiculous process and rollout.

Why are we going in for 2 days before the 2nd dose? Seems utterly ridiculous to throw us together and if not to have us working from isolated rooms while we log on to virtual PD.

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest on teacher vaccines in APS. Any chance they’ll do group vaccinations like FCC is. Get everyone the first shot in a week or so? Or is it every teacher on her own trying to get an appointment? Any estimate on how long before they can get all?