Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think asking questions about this event makes anybody a racist. That is crazy and throwing around the term so casually really makes it difficult for people to engage in a meaningful conversation.
I mean, what do you want to discuss? The finer legal points about how you could bring a reverse discrimination lawsuit? The need to block black kids from getting support tailored to their lives? The fact that your white child feels excluded? You want a White Empowerment seminar for your child?
About the ONLY thing people of good will have to discuss here is the fact that DCPS would be well-advised to add an asterisk “all are welcome” to deal with the new “concerned” citizens, and hope for the best there is no trolling or disruption.
Is anyone suggesting blocking Black kids from these opportunities? Why not extend the invitation to every child? Why perpetuate the division?
why do you think resources and education tailored to black kids is “division”? do you believe your white child not being able to go to this event or have a white empowerment event is as harmful as black kids educational disparities? do you think your white child needs additional consideration and resources to address disparities based on race? finally, do you actually feel offended at the idea of a black-only event? why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.
Don’t worry they’d 100% lose and then be shunned by all non-racists. This is DC.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.
yep. although of course, the OPs of the world would still claim that it's "toxic" and "divisive."
Because it is. Look at the insults being flung left and right in this thread.
So it goes like this:
DCPS: Here is this program to help disadvantaged black kids
You: THIS IS RACIST
Us: No, you are racist for trying to block programs to help disadvantaged black kids.
You: LOOK AT ALL THE INSULTS BEING FLUNG HERE! NO MORE HELP TO BLACK KIDS!
Anonymous wrote:?? That sounds like a great program and those are two fantastic presenters, OP. Do you truly not understand that white children have opportunities their classmates of color do not? There are plenty of school-based programs that aren't open to every single student - and unless you're taking offense to each and every one of those, this does come off a bit "all lives matter."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.
yep. although of course, the OPs of the world would still claim that it's "toxic" and "divisive."
Because it is. Look at the insults being flung left and right in this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.
yep. although of course, the OPs of the world would still claim that it's "toxic" and "divisive."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's shitty that they have programs literally geared toward every student except white males. Is there a correlating general leadership program that all can participate in in addition to or instead of these programs?
Why do you think it's shitty? Do you think white males need a special program to be empowered? Do you feel your white male child does not have enough support to overcome challenges in his life? What kind of problems do you think your white male child will face getting into college, going to college, and in the workplace?
It is a kind of interesting question. There are efforts to talk to boys about things like sexual violence and awareness of problems women and girls face, often at the hands of boys and men, in order to combat "rape culture" and so forth.
Should there be something similar for white boys to learn how they might be perpetuating racism, and to be challenged to think about it in a separate group and come to terms with their identity and privilege, in a useful way? As a parent of a white boy I often wonder how to make sure he grows up to be both anti-racist and a feminist, and all alone we can only do so much if social pressures go the other way.
I would not want the white or non-black boys in particular to feel left out and therefore actually step up their journey toward racist behaviors linked to some kind of misguided sense of victimhood (a la, Trumpists). I don't think this event is a bad idea, or should be more inclusive, but shouldn't we also treat the disease from the other way.
Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.
Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.
Anonymous wrote:Are asians POC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's shitty that they have programs literally geared toward every student except white males. Is there a correlating general leadership program that all can participate in in addition to or instead of these programs?
Why do you think it's shitty? Do you think white males need a special program to be empowered? Do you feel your white male child does not have enough support to overcome challenges in his life? What kind of problems do you think your white male child will face getting into college, going to college, and in the workplace?
It is a kind of interesting question. There are efforts to talk to boys about things like sexual violence and awareness of problems women and girls face, often at the hands of boys and men, in order to combat "rape culture" and so forth.
Should there be something similar for white boys to learn how they might be perpetuating racism, and to be challenged to think about it in a separate group and come to terms with their identity and privilege, in a useful way? As a parent of a white boy I often wonder how to make sure he grows up to be both anti-racist and a feminist, and all alone we can only do so much if social pressures go the other way.
I would not want the white or non-black boys in particular to feel left out and therefore actually step up their journey toward racist behaviors linked to some kind of misguided sense of victimhood (a la, Trumpists). I don't think this event is a bad idea, or should be more inclusive, but shouldn't we also treat the disease from the other way.