Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 12:11     Subject: Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Different ethnic groups don't OWN the rights to different hairstyles.

I think this is ridiculous.

It would probably flatter the AA friend that her friend wants to look like her.

Maybe you and the mom have a braiding party in the backyard.

I am liberal, but I think this concern is too much.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:58     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


Pigtails with ribbons aren't okay? White people have been doing that forever.


Who did they steal it from?


Marie Antoinette. And look how it ended for her.


Dp. She could have been bald and stil lost her head. It had nothing to do with her hair choice
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:55     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a complete idiot though I feel like one now. I know better than to let my kid have braids to match her friend. Could I do french braids instead and put beads in her hair that way? I'm so lost on this. I am an immigrant, sorry for not understanding. I am trying.


French braids would be cute. Get them friendship bracelets or something that can match.


Tell your daughter "Cornrows are for black girls. White girls wear French braids. Girls of all colors can wear friendship bracelets."


Np. So are u saying Black girls can't wear French braids? That's crazy!
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:36     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


Pigtails with ribbons aren't okay? White people have been doing that forever.


Who did they steal it from?


Pigtails and pony tails with ribbon have been used by caucasian women for thousands of years. I suspect it came about from farm safety and to keep your hair out of your face when working in the fields.


Braids have been prevalent in Africa, Egypt (let's not forget the Potolemies were Macedonian Greeks), Ancient Greece, very popular in Europe in the Medival/Renaissance period etc. The "woke" thought police are not only ahistorical, they also seek to deny natural human expression and interaction. Akin to the "Cultural Revolution" which sought to destroy and rebuild culture in accordance with strict doctrinaire principles imposed by some on others. This is a small, silly debate--but the ideology behind it should make people deeply uneasy.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:30     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


THis is awesome!
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:28     Subject: Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

OP, your twin day plans sound great! Give us an update afterwards.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:26     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


Pigtails with ribbons aren't okay? White people have been doing that forever.


Who did they steal it from?


Pigtails and pony tails with ribbon have been used by caucasian women for thousands of years. I suspect it came about from farm safety and to keep your hair out of your face when working in the fields.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:19     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


You can't be serious.


I don’t think the PP is. I do appreciate that this thread has taken a humorous turn. The initial idea-that braids on a white child- isn’t “culturally appropriate” is so ridiculous on its own, that I thought OP was a troll.

I cannot even imagine thinking a bunch of small braids on a child is offensive. I’m curious about the type of person who even thinks this. I don’t think they have good intentions. I just don’t. Sounds like they’re trying to stir up shit.

Something about the OP is off. Making small things into “racial” questions makes me feel uneasy.





On a small child or on an adult. Being uncomfortable with a history of bodies being policed doesn't mean the answer is to police more bodies.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:15     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


You can't be serious.


I don’t think the PP is. I do appreciate that this thread has taken a humorous turn. The initial idea-that braids on a white child- isn’t “culturally appropriate” is so ridiculous on its own, that I thought OP was a troll.

I cannot even imagine thinking a bunch of small braids on a child is offensive. I’m curious about the type of person who even thinks this. I don’t think they have good intentions. I just don’t. Sounds like they’re trying to stir up shit.

Something about the OP is off. Making small things into “racial” questions makes me feel uneasy.



Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:08     Subject: Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are in a less white area and the kids tend to imitate each other in style- just like in more racially homogeneous areas. At school after lunch, the girls often put braids in each other's hair. What I'm not going to do is intervene and say to my white daughter, "honey, only let your black friends do euro-centric braid styles on you because you don't want to be a cultural imperialist. Here, pick out something from Hanna Anderssen." Call me unenlightened, I don't care, but I am not going to make my daughter show her friends how woke she is by not participating in normal kid stuff.


"Cultural Imperialist?" Now we're just making sh*t up ...


I guess this means relaxer is out for AA girls and women? I love natural hair, but would think they'd like to make their own choices. And relaxed hair is beautiful too. Nice to have options!
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 10:55     Subject: Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teach your child to say we don’t do cultural appropriation.


Teach your child to say "Cultural appropriation is a social construct invented by white academics in the 1980s in order to meet publishing quotas."


In the 80's academics thought cultural appropriation was a normal part of culture. Which it is. This whole idea of cultural "purity" is kind of volke and creepy, I think. Culture is not a rarefied, nationalist, hothouse orchid. It is an ever-evolving messy snowball that takes the best and sometimes the worst of different things and combines them with other things
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 10:50     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Other cultures also braid hair. This is absurd.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 10:49     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


Pigtails with ribbons aren't okay? White people have been doing that forever.


Who did they steal it from?


Marie Antoinette. And look how it ended for her.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 10:47     Subject: Re:Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not expect this to have so many responses! To update, I spoke with the other mom and we agreed that the girls will order matching outfits and even shoes online so they can have their twin idea. I will braid my daughter's hair into pigtails and I will offer to add ribbons in the same color as her friend's beads. Then we will do a twin day and they can choose their activities they want to do, like a project or ice cream. I already have talked to my daughter about her hair being a different kind and that the braids will not work the same.

(I'm OP)


Still not comfortable with this. Strays too close to the line.


Pigtails with ribbons aren't okay? White people have been doing that forever.


Who did they steal it from?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 10:45     Subject: Braids for white daughter? I want to be culturally appropriate. Help!

Anonymous wrote:We are in a less white area and the kids tend to imitate each other in style- just like in more racially homogeneous areas. At school after lunch, the girls often put braids in each other's hair. What I'm not going to do is intervene and say to my white daughter, "honey, only let your black friends do euro-centric braid styles on you because you don't want to be a cultural imperialist. Here, pick out something from Hanna Anderssen." Call me unenlightened, I don't care, but I am not going to make my daughter show her friends how woke she is by not participating in normal kid stuff.


"Cultural Imperialist?" Now we're just making sh*t up ...