Anonymous
01/17/2023 13:28
Subject: Re:Glennon Doyle
I didn't know Glennon as a teenager but I find her pretty annoying as an adult and would not be surprised to find that her adult persona maybe doesn't accurately reflect her background.
Do any of these mom bloggers have any close female friends IRL? Glennon doesn't seem like a particularly good friend but someone who just needs all the attention and only contributes if it serves her.
Poor Abby. Her world got so small. She knows the joy of teamwork and being a productive part of a group, but now she is trapped in Glennon's needy vortex. Glennon is like the possessive boyfriend who doesn't want you to hang out with your girlfriends.
I was trying to lay off the snark in the new year, but when I saw Glennon's big anorexia announcement, I had to see what y'all's reaction was. Hoo boy. Of course she is going to blame it on the "patriarchy." Why does this woman hate men so much?
Anonymous
01/12/2023 22:50
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems like a bunch of people who can't stand her just can't stop talking about her.
It's always interesting to me when people are posting detailed criticisms of something and all the defenders can say is "why do you care so much" or "wow, obsessed."
I would actually be curious to read someone respond to some of the criticism of the last few pages with an explanation of why they like or respect GD. It only takes a few minutes to write an opinion like that and it contribute more than just getting mad that people have different opinion than yours.
I already posted my perspective several pages ago and no one responded to it… so 🤷🏼♀️
Anonymous
01/12/2023 22:40
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a bunch of people who can't stand her just can't stop talking about her.
It's always interesting to me when people are posting detailed criticisms of something and all the defenders can say is "why do you care so much" or "wow, obsessed."
I would actually be curious to read someone respond to some of the criticism of the last few pages with an explanation of why they like or respect GD. It only takes a few minutes to write an opinion like that and it contribute more than just getting mad that people have different opinion than yours.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 22:37
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I find curious about Glennon is that her issues are often associated with/blamed on a difficult childhood. But she seems to be close to her parents and sister, so I don't totally get it.
Oh, and no way are she and Abby going to last.
I have encountered other people like this in my life. They talk a lot about their childhood trauma and how it has impacted them, but then they also talk about their close, supportive relationships with their immediate family. It's confusing to me because I grew up in a dysfunctional family and we are not close and I definitely don't lean on them for support (nor would they give it if I tried).
Of course there are families who may have worked through trauma and dysfunction and come out the other side. But there are degrees of dysfunction. My family members who abused me do not have the interest in or capacity for that kind of healing. I don't tend to talk super openly about my childhood trauma because (1) it would upset people and make them view me differently, and (2) while I have worked hard to process through it in therapy and I think done pretty well, it's still painful/hard to discuss very openly. I don't get the sense that Glennon and I have similar backgrounds or journeys.
This is something that bothers me about this whole strain of "self help" actually. Glennon's whole "we can do hard things!" form of positivity doesn't really resonate with me because some of the hard things I've been through do not make for charming anecdotes about my resilience. Some of them are just sad. There isn't a lot of room for that in her particular brand of empowerment.
It's interesting because she often portrayed a perfect supportive family in her blogposts-her mom and dad would always "show up" for her and were amazing and she is of course so close to sister. In the podcast, they have dropped bits that things were not so perfect. I believe the mom pressured them to be thin...which growing up around the same time in N Virginia I can tell you every female I was friend's with had the same pressure from mom myself included and EDs-full blown and subclinical were rampant. They hint at the parents being rigid-also not uncommon and money was tight since they were both teachers. I am not minimizing it, but all typical stuff many of us faced and many of us work through in therapy, but not major trauma.
I did not buy when thin as a rail Glennon claimed to be over bulimia long ago and was not surprised she is anorexic. I suspect Sister is next to have a revelation looking at how small her arms are and how thin she is on IG.
I truly bought into the Abby and Glennon love and now it seems like the honeymoon is over. Abby probably gets A LOT of attention from other females interested in her and it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 22:29
Subject: Re:Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:PS - how does Craig make money?
I think he has a job, but also got a huge payday from Glennon in exchange for throwing him under the bus in her book...just my hunch.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 21:35
Subject: Glennon Doyle
GD not CD
Anonymous
01/12/2023 21:34
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:She seems truly unwell. I also do not understand why she is considered to be so wise, or why Oprah gave her so much airtime. I read one of her books.
I also suspect she was sexually abused as a young child, but didn't write about it in her book. She speaks at length about all these impressions she had of men, and how her bulimia started at 8 years old (I think that was the age?), and so on... and all of it seems deeply bizarre for a girl who claims to have come from a wonderful household with adoring parents. It is my opinion that she either made it all these things after the fact, or there are major parts of the story that she's left out.
Because she’s Brene Brown’s cooing buddy. Any friend of Brene Browns is a friend of Ophy (correct spelling). Seriously. Did you hear the podcast w Brene and CD? They literally fawned over each other and bragged about their alcoholic recovery. It was cringy.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:50
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I find curious about Glennon is that her issues are often associated with/blamed on a difficult childhood. But she seems to be close to her parents and sister, so I don't totally get it.
Oh, and no way are she and Abby going to last.
I have encountered other people like this in my life. They talk a lot about their childhood trauma and how it has impacted them, but then they also talk about their close, supportive relationships with their immediate family. It's confusing to me because I grew up in a dysfunctional family and we are not close and I definitely don't lean on them for support (nor would they give it if I tried).
Of course there are families who may have worked through trauma and dysfunction and come out the other side. But there are degrees of dysfunction. My family members who abused me do not have the interest in or capacity for that kind of healing. I don't tend to talk super openly about my childhood trauma because (1) it would upset people and make them view me differently, and (2) while I have worked hard to process through it in therapy and I think done pretty well, it's still painful/hard to discuss very openly. I don't get the sense that Glennon and I have similar backgrounds or journeys.
This is something that bothers me about this whole strain of "self help" actually. Glennon's whole "we can do hard things!" form of positivity doesn't really resonate with me because some of the hard things I've been through do not make for charming anecdotes about my resilience. Some of them are just sad. There isn't a lot of room for that in her particular brand of empowerment.
+100
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:48
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a bunch of people who can't stand her just can't stop talking about her.
I mean, yeah, she’s that bad.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:48
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She only has a bachelors from JMU and a history of mental health and addiction issues…not sure that equips her to be put on a pedestal to dole out sage advice.
She very clearly says she is not doling out advice. She is sharing her experience, as are the guests on her show. Many women learn and grow from each other when they are willing to be vulnerable and feel like they aren't the only one. People who have a visceral reaction to her should seriously step back and think about why.
DP. My visceral reaction is because I actually knew her before she was famous and I can’t believe how many people fall for her schtick.
Are you the same person you were at 16? Get over yourself.
Ok, but even if I didn’t know her I would still think that she’s incredibly annoying to listen to. I’ve tried to listen to her podcast just to base my opinion on who she is now, but I cannot understand her appeal at all. Her voice and her delivery and her cutesy words and phrases. It’s stomach turning to me.
Then don't tune in. She has 2M other followers who do find something appealing about her. Move on.
DP but this is not a Glennon Doyle fan site. If you struggle to read even mild criticism of her, perhaps you should move on.
I'm not struggling, lol. I can take her or leave her. I do take issue with her classmate from HS making judgements based on memories from a teenage brain over 30 years ago. The PP can't let it go.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:46
Subject: Glennon Doyle
It seems like a bunch of people who can't stand her just can't stop talking about her.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:46
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She only has a bachelors from JMU and a history of mental health and addiction issues…not sure that equips her to be put on a pedestal to dole out sage advice.
She very clearly says she is not doling out advice. She is sharing her experience, as are the guests on her show. Many women learn and grow from each other when they are willing to be vulnerable and feel like they aren't the only one. People who have a visceral reaction to her should seriously step back and think about why.
DP. My visceral reaction is because I actually knew her before she was famous and I can’t believe how many people fall for her schtick.
Are you the same person you were at 16? Get over yourself.
Ok, but even if I didn’t know her I would still think that she’s incredibly annoying to listen to. I’ve tried to listen to her podcast just to base my opinion on who she is now, but I cannot understand her appeal at all. Her voice and her delivery and her cutesy words and phrases. It’s stomach turning to me.
Then don't tune in. She has 2M other followers who do find something appealing about her. Move on.
DP but this is not a Glennon Doyle fan site. If you struggle to read even mild criticism of her, perhaps you should move on.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:45
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She only has a bachelors from JMU and a history of mental health and addiction issues…not sure that equips her to be put on a pedestal to dole out sage advice.
She very clearly says she is not doling out advice. She is sharing her experience, as are the guests on her show. Many women learn and grow from each other when they are willing to be vulnerable and feel like they aren't the only one. People who have a visceral reaction to her should seriously step back and think about why.
DP. My visceral reaction is because I actually knew her before she was famous and I can’t believe how many people fall for her schtick.
Are you the same person you were at 16? Get over yourself.
Not PP but I think this is specific to people who develop a very distinctive "brand" in adulthood and sell it to people. I know lots of people who have evolved since I knew them at 16, but none of them are trying to convince people they have some special insight into how the world works (some of them actually do have good insight into this, but they aren't selling it on a podcast or in self-indulgent memoirs about their lives).
I didn't know Glennon as a teenager but I find her pretty annoying as an adult and would not be surprised to find that her adult persona maybe doesn't accurately reflect her background.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:44
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She only has a bachelors from JMU and a history of mental health and addiction issues…not sure that equips her to be put on a pedestal to dole out sage advice.
She very clearly says she is not doling out advice. She is sharing her experience, as are the guests on her show. Many women learn and grow from each other when they are willing to be vulnerable and feel like they aren't the only one. People who have a visceral reaction to her should seriously step back and think about why.
DP. My visceral reaction is because I actually knew her before she was famous and I can’t believe how many people fall for her schtick.
Are you the same person you were at 16? Get over yourself.
Ok, but even if I didn’t know her I would still think that she’s incredibly annoying to listen to. I’ve tried to listen to her podcast just to base my opinion on who she is now, but I cannot understand her appeal at all. Her voice and her delivery and her cutesy words and phrases. It’s stomach turning to me.
Then don't tune in. She has 2M other followers who do find something appealing about her. Move on.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 18:38
Subject: Glennon Doyle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She only has a bachelors from JMU and a history of mental health and addiction issues…not sure that equips her to be put on a pedestal to dole out sage advice.
She very clearly says she is not doling out advice. She is sharing her experience, as are the guests on her show. Many women learn and grow from each other when they are willing to be vulnerable and feel like they aren't the only one. People who have a visceral reaction to her should seriously step back and think about why.
DP. My visceral reaction is because I actually knew her before she was famous and I can’t believe how many people fall for her schtick.
Are you the same person you were at 16? Get over yourself.
Ok, but even if I didn’t know her I would still think that she’s incredibly annoying to listen to. I’ve tried to listen to her podcast just to base my opinion on who she is now, but I cannot understand her appeal at all. Her voice and her delivery and her cutesy words and phrases. It’s stomach turning to me.