jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I gotta say it, I think you’re taking this one too seriously...

Yeah, this literally is just a meme. It’s not actually targeting UMC white women. It’s the same thing as Becky a few years ago. It’s more of a silly meme/joke more than it is an actual mean term.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/k-ren (I can’t even type the link, but replace the “-“ with an “a” in the name)

Even the first tweet is just a silly meme. It’s not to be taken seriously or is literally targeting anyone.

Since it is just a silly meme, I am sure that nobody will miss not being able to use it, right?

You have no idea how frequently it was being used here -- and still is. Posters began to report it and I was almost DOS'd by the reports. It was just constant. It's played out. Time to move on.

That many people complained? Yes, it’s played, but people need to chill. Of all the things to complain about...I mean, it sounds like they came by their moniker honestly.

In the future, everyone will be offended for 15 minutes. Its only fair that everyone can enjoy victimhood, at least for a little while.

jsteele wrote:DCUM earned a reputation for having intelligent, educated, and witty posters. Then it devolved to repeating the same name over and over again in response to nearly every post. Call it "censorship" or call it nostalgia.

Really? When? 2008? I drop in every few weeks just to gawk at the idiocy and discount-rate trolling and roll around in the mud for a while. I certainly don't expect "intelligent, educated and witty" (well, maybe over-educated in some cases). The parenting forums alone are K-word central, a cesspool of bitchy, judgemental Mean Girl wackadoodlery (is that a word? It is now!). And don't get me started on the Politics board.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold up, these are common names given to people at birth? You actually know someone with these names?

Seriously? All of them are names. I don't think Sambo is used much anymore but the others are. They probably have fallen in to disuse exactly because of their negative connotations now.

Yeah, seriously. Who do you know with any of those names? These are not commons names given at birth, like the name you chose to block. These are actual racial slurs with a history.

You might win the density prize for today. They were all common names that came to be used as slurs. Because nobody wants to name their child with a slur, the names fell into disuse. There are still Jemimas, Hymies, and Guidos today, though obviously not all that common. But the fact that there are names that once were common but fell into disuse because they were used as slurs hardly seems like a good excuse for using a name that is common today as a slur.

So to be clear, you don’t know anyone with these actual names. These are not common names and have not been common names for decades. You do, however, actually think K-word is a racial slur that will go down in history with these words. Yeah, ok.

I do not think that the K-word is a racial slur. Rather I think that its use as a derogatory term has racial, sexist, and ageist connotations. But, my main issue with it is that it is over-used and played out. Whatever humor was once associated with it was lost long ago.

It is rather remarkable that you don’t don’t understand that several names that are now slurs were once common names. They would not have become slurs were they not common. This is simply to demonstrate that the suggestion that something cannot be a slur because it is a name is false. We have examples of just that.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold up, these are common names given to people at birth? You actually know someone with these names?

Seriously? All of them are names. I don't think Sambo is used much anymore but the others are. They probably have fallen in to disuse exactly because of their negative connotations now.

Yeah, seriously. Who do you know with any of those names? These are not commons names given at birth, like the name you chose to block. These are actual racial slurs with a history.

You might win the density prize for today. They were all common names that came to be used as slurs. Because nobody wants to name their child with a slur, the names fell into disuse. There are still Jemimas, Hymies, and Guidos today, though obviously not all that common. But the fact that there are names that once were common but fell into disuse because they were used as slurs hardly seems like a good excuse for using a name that is common today as a slur.

So to be clear, you don’t know anyone with these actual names. These are not common names and have not been common names for decades. You do, however, actually think K-word is a racial slur that will go down in history with these words. Yeah, ok.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold up, these are common names given to people at birth? You actually know someone with these names?

Seriously? All of them are names. I don't think Sambo is used much anymore but the others are. They probably have fallen in to disuse exactly because of their negative connotations now.

Yeah, seriously. Who do you know with any of those names? These are not commons names given at birth, like the name you chose to block. These are actual racial slurs with a history.

You might win the density prize for today. They were all common names that came to be used as slurs. Because nobody wants to name their child with a slur, the names fell into disuse. There are still Jemimas, Hymies, and Guidos today, though obviously not all that common. But the fact that there are names that once were common but fell into disuse because they were used as slurs hardly seems like a good excuse for using a name that is common today as a slur.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold up, these are common names given to people at birth? You actually know someone with these names?

Seriously? All of them are names. I don't think Sambo is used much anymore but the others are. They probably have fallen in to disuse exactly because of their negative connotations now.

Yeah, seriously. Who do you know with any of those names? These are not commons names given at birth, like the name you chose to block. These are actual racial slurs with a history.

Anonymous wrote:I gotta say it, I think you’re taking this one too seriously...

Yeah, this literally is just a meme. It’s not actually targeting UMC white women. It’s the same thing as Becky a few years ago. It’s more of a silly meme/joke more than it is an actual mean term.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/k-ren (I can’t even type the link, but replace the “-“ with an “a” in the name)

Even the first tweet is just a silly meme. It’s not to be taken seriously or is literally targeting anyone.

Since it is just a silly meme, I am sure that nobody will miss not being able to use it, right?

You have no idea how frequently it was being used here -- and still is. Posters began to report it and I was almost DOS'd by the reports. It was just constant. It's played out. Time to move on.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, you don't have to make it clear. These folks are playing dense. When you follow your statement with a but, you negate what you said before the but. Focusing on the "Of course part...," is meaningless because that poster took it back with the next sentence. They do think it is as bad as the N word and so do the following posters.

Since you can read minds, tell me what number I am thinking of?

If you consider what the posters are writing rather than attempting to read their minds, they are saying the "K-word" is not anywhere close to as bad as the "N-word" but can still be used in a derogatory manner.

This is getting to be a pretty stupid discussion, but since I am sheltering in-place with not much to do, consider what Wikipedia says about it:

"K**** is a term that is aimed towards entitled and demanding Caucasian women. One of the most common K**** stereotypes is that of a white middle-aged woman..."

So, all the elements the posters above described, race, gender, and age, are clearly identified.

While there are certainly entitled and demanding middle-aged white women, there are entitled and demanding folks of all ages and races and some are even male. There is a problem when this stereotype is used to diminish all middle-aged white women. That's why many posters in this thread object to its use.

If you aren't trying to use the name in a derogatory manner, why are you even using it? Certainly the posters calling others "k****" don't think the person's actual name is k****. It's being used as a put down due to a stereotype based on race, gender, and age. That really doesn't seem appropriate.

I gotta say it, I think you’re taking this one too seriously...

Yeah, this literally is just a meme. It’s not actually targeting UMC white women. It’s the same thing as Becky a few years ago. It’s more of a silly meme/joke more than it is an actual mean term.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/k-ren (I can’t even type the link, but replace the “-“ with an “a” in the name)

Even the first tweet is just a silly meme. It’s not to be taken seriously or is literally targeting anyone.

Anonymous wrote:Hold up, these are common names given to people at birth? You actually know someone with these names?

Seriously? All of them are names. I don't think Sambo is used much anymore but the others are. They probably have fallen in to disuse exactly because of their negative connotations now.

Anonymous wrote:PP, you don't have to make it clear. These folks are playing dense. When you follow your statement with a but, you negate what you said before the but. Focusing on the "Of course part...," is meaningless because that poster took it back with the next sentence. They do think it is as bad as the N word and so do the following posters.

Since you can read minds, tell me what number I am thinking of?

If you consider what the posters are writing rather than attempting to read their minds, they are saying the "K-word" is not anywhere close to as bad as the "N-word" but can still be used in a derogatory manner.

This is getting to be a pretty stupid discussion, but since I am sheltering in-place with not much to do, consider what Wikipedia says about it:

"K**** is a term that is aimed towards entitled and demanding Caucasian women. One of the most common K**** stereotypes is that of a white middle-aged woman..."

So, all the elements the posters above described, race, gender, and age, are clearly identified.

While there are certainly entitled and demanding middle-aged white women, there are entitled and demanding folks of all ages and races and some are even male. There is a problem when this stereotype is used to diminish all middle-aged white women. That's why many posters in this thread object to its use.

If you aren't trying to use the name in a derogatory manner, why are you even using it? Certainly the posters calling others "k****" don't think the person's actual name is k****. It's being used as a put down due to a stereotype based on race, gender, and age. That really doesn't seem appropriate.

Gotta say, I went thru the first two pages and I still have no idea what anyone is talking about.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t think I’d have to make it clear what portion of a post I disagree with.

“Of course it doesn’t come close to the N word. But calling a woman a K is a a way of silencing a middle-aged woman. It’s misogyny, pure and simple.“

The first sentence of that first post is common sense so I’m not referring to that. It’s the second sentence in the first post that I’m referring to. I simply disagree. It’s just a name, it’s not sexist, or misogyny, it’s a common female name. Just like Becky was used in the same way a few years back.

Besides, the original tweet in this thread is a joke anyway, it’s just a silly meme made from a obvious fake twitter account.

That’s it. It’s not a big deal.

There are several names that are used in a racist manner. Think of "Sambo", "Aunt Jemima", "Guido", or "Hymie".

For what it is worth, the racial aspect of the "K-word" is not my main objection. It was just the constant over use of it in a derogatory manner. It was just old and boring and reflected poorly on the poster using it. I also blocked "Ok, b**mer" and it doesn't have racial connotations to my knowledge. It was just over used to the extent I was ready to poke my eyes out if I saw it again. These are used by people who lack imagination for a substantive response.

I have a name that was constantly mocked online as well. But I never take offense to it or want my own name banned. We’re human, it’s a part of our culture to mock or joke around. The references above are used but I don’t think anything of them as literally insulting.

Your forum, your rules, though. If people are legitimately offended, then let it stay banned.

Anonymous wrote:PP, you don't have to make it clear. These folks are playing dense. When you follow your statement with a but, you negate what you said before the but. Focusing on the "Of course part...," is meaningless because that poster took it back with the next sentence. They do think it is as bad as the N word and so do the following posters.

Yep.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t think I’d have to make it clear what portion of a post I disagree with.

“Of course it doesn’t come close to the N word. But calling a woman a K is a a way of silencing a middle-aged woman. It’s misogyny, pure and simple.“

The first sentence of that first post is common sense so I’m not referring to that. It’s the second sentence in the first post that I’m referring to. I simply disagree. It’s just a name, it’s not sexist, or misogyny, it’s a common female name. Just like Becky was used in the same way a few years back.

Besides, the original tweet in this thread is a joke anyway, it’s just a silly meme made from a obvious fake twitter account.

That’s it. It’s not a big deal.

There are several names that are used in a racist manner. Think of "Sambo", "Aunt Jemima", "Guido", or "Hymie".

For what it is worth, the racial aspect of the "K-word" is not my main objection. It was just the constant over use of it in a derogatory manner. It was just old and boring and reflected poorly on the poster using it. I also blocked "Ok, b**mer" and it doesn't have racial connotations to my knowledge. It was just over used to the extent I was ready to poke my eyes out if I saw it again. These are used by people who lack imagination for a substantive response.

Hold up, these are common names given to people at birth? You actually know someone with these names?