I think I’d be s lot safer in Shanghai right now from this virus than anywhere in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

And yet they did a better job than we are doing. In China, OP would have been tested. Too bad she lives in a shithole country.

Actually the global standard is South Korea right now. Europe, Canada and the US are lagging.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I don't think the tests are even that accurate, especially for when symptoms first appear.

I have no direct knowledge of that, it's just the overall sense that I get when looking at the numbers.

Wrong.

I might very well be wrong. It just doesn't make much sense to me how a husband can contract this virus and his wife who has been around him and breathing the same air comes up negative - like with Idris Elba and his wife.

Also, last I saw, Florida has tested over 1000 people and over 800 of those tests came back negative. For such a contagious disease it sure doesn't seem that contagious based on those tests.

Either there are false negatives, people have some sort of natural immunity to it here or it isn't as contagious as once thought. Maybe it's just not spread as easily in this country for some reason?

All the more reason we need tests. We don’t know how to handle it, because we don’t know what “it” is.

Let's say FL has tested 1500 people. That is outrageous. That is 0.007 percent of their population.

It's as if FL has done zero tests.

I think that doctors have been given the go ahead to test at their discretion in Florida. That doesn't mean that every random patient with the sniffles gets a test but if a doctor, in their professional judgement, feels that the test is warranted, they can order a test.

I would imagine that a good many of the tests were given to people with known contacts to those positive for the virus. I simply found the number of negative results to be interesting.

Why do you think Florida has more tests than any other state? Someone in this thread said yesterday one of the major hospitals in Virginia had ZERO tests...

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Anonymous wrote:Do you know anyone who has it? Any idea where you got it?

This is a stupid question at this point in time. With the lack of testing capability, we don't know who has it and who doesn't and its best to assume it is widespread and that's why folks need to STAY HOME! Slow the spread. We all know someone who has it right now, we just don't have the tests.

I understand six degrees and all of that, but where is this coming from?

Epidemiologists estimate that right now about 1% of the US population is infected

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

And yet they did a better job than we are doing. In China, OP would have been tested. Too bad she lives in a shithole country.

You really are clueless. Maybe go spend a week in China and then you can come back and tell us what a great a country it is. Heck, move there if it's so fantastic.

We are so much healthier in this country and it really does look as though Americans are not being hit as hard by this virus. That is such great news.

I didn’t say it was a great country. I just said they handled the outbreak better than we are doing. It’s a good thing we may not get as hard - even mire innocent lives would be lost due to the criminal mismanagement of our response.

They first off, didn't know what they were dealing with at first. Secondly, their citizens are apparently not in good health (smoking and bad pollution) and, finally, at least one disabled teen was left to die alone in an apartment and toddlers were left alone to fend for themselves when their caregivers were quarantined away in a hospital. Plus, I have read on this thread were the Chinese people were literally shooting their citizens for daring to come out of their homes. That is horrific.

By comparison, Trump has made some good calls which have limited the damage in our country. We appear to faring much better than other parts of the world and we should be grateful for that. I think that as long as our local leaders behave responsibly and with sound judgement we will get through this ordeal and we will recover economically from it.

I am glad that Trump has done the right thing and resisted the pressure to over react in a heavy handed and damaging way. I know it's early to call it and that viruses can be unpredictable but...this really does not seem to be as bad as initially feared.

I live in Florida - land of the cruise ships, theme parks, beaches, major tourist destination and we have had 5 deaths from this virus so far which is terrible but it's not the catastrophic numbers that one might expect given the situation. I am really hoping and praying that things will return to normal soon.

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Name one. The little he has done has been bafflingly late.

We had the benefit of being able to learn from Wuhan's experience. The rest of China did. Other country's did. We had the benefit of being able to learn from Italy. Instead he foolishly reassured the nation that it was nothing and behind the scenes did nothing. He continues to falsely reassure the nation that everything is under "tremendous control" when his own people are trying to get out the message that it is not. Trump has done everything as badly as he possibly could have and we will many more fatalities than we could have BECAUSE OF HIM.

Anonymous wrote:Also, scientists have calculated the death rate in Wuhan to be 1.4%. That is way lower than originally projected and I believe there is reason to be optimistic that it will be way lower than that in the U.S.

We are o.k.

huh? link please. maybe in China, but no way in Wuhan.

Also, scientists have calculated the death rate in Wuhan to be 1.4%. That is way lower than originally projected and I believe there is reason to be optimistic that it will be way lower than that in the U.S.

We are o.k.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

And yet they did a better job than we are doing. In China, OP would have been tested. Too bad she lives in a shithole country.

You really are clueless. Maybe go spend a week in China and then you can come back and tell us what a great a country it is. Heck, move there if it's so fantastic.

We are so much healthier in this country and it really does look as though Americans are not being hit as hard by this virus. That is such great news.

I didn’t say it was a great country. I just said they handled the outbreak better than we are doing. It’s a good thing we may not get as hard - even mire innocent lives would be lost due to the criminal mismanagement of our response.

They first off, didn't know what they were dealing with at first. Secondly, their citizens are apparently not in good health (smoking and bad pollution) and, finally, at least one disabled teen was left to die alone in an apartment and toddlers were left alone to fend for themselves when their caregivers were quarantined away in a hospital. Plus, I have read on this thread were the Chinese people were literally shooting their citizens for daring to come out of their homes. That is horrific.

By comparison, Trump has made some good calls which have limited the damage in our country. We appear to faring much better than other parts of the world and we should be grateful for that. I think that as long as our local leaders behave responsibly and with sound judgement we will get through this ordeal and we will recover economically from it.

I am glad that Trump has done the right thing and resisted the pressure to over react in a heavy handed and damaging way. I know it's early to call it and that viruses can be unpredictable but...this really does not seem to be as bad as initially feared.

I live in Florida - land of the cruise ships, theme parks, beaches, major tourist destination and we have had 5 deaths from this virus so far which is terrible but it's not the catastrophic numbers that one might expect given the situation. I am really hoping and praying that things will return to normal soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

And yet they did a better job than we are doing. In China, OP would have been tested. Too bad she lives in a shithole country.

You really are clueless. Maybe go spend a week in China and then you can come back and tell us what a great a country it is. Heck, move there if it's so fantastic.

We are so much healthier in this country and it really does look as though Americans are not being hit as hard by this virus. That is such great news.

I didn’t say it was a great country. I just said they handled the outbreak better than we are doing. It’s a good thing we may not get as hard - even mire innocent lives would be lost due to the criminal mismanagement of our response.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

And yet they did a better job than we are doing. In China, OP would have been tested. Too bad she lives in a shithole country.

You really are clueless. Maybe go spend a week in China and then you can come back and tell us what a great a country it is. Heck, move there if it's so fantastic.

We are so much healthier in this country and it really does look as though Americans are not being hit as hard by this virus. That is such great news.

It LOOKS as though we have fewer cases because NO ONE IS TESTING. How can you not understand this???

Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

If you have a clue, then enlighten us. Dismiss something without a better offer doesn't contribute anything to the discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all please stop holding China up as the shining example of how we should handle things?

It just sounds so clueless...

And yet they did a better job than we are doing. In China, OP would have been tested. Too bad she lives in a shithole country.

You really are clueless. Maybe go spend a week in China and then you can come back and tell us what a great a country it is. Heck, move there if it's so fantastic.

We are so much healthier in this country and it really does look as though Americans are not being hit as hard by this virus. That is such great news.

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Anonymous wrote:No test is not an excuse for the government not doing anything to help, people pay them tax to serve, especially in situation like this.

Staying in separate room doesn't solve the problem, especially for people living in apartment complex with central AC, there isn't enough space to be in total isolation in a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment either.

People who need test but couldn't get one should get in touch with media outlet for help, make your voice heard, if there are enough of you complaining, the government can figure out a strategy to deal with this group.

In Wuhan, China, they send people with symptom to a designated hotel, observe them and streamline testing them, it is important to separate them from healthy family members. Here when we say social distancing, it shouldn't be just with people not your immediate family, it is important to distance anyone if you have symptom.

Also regarding to the test, they could just take the test kits recommend by WHO or buy it from other countries, we put our lives on hold and some families really can't afford living like this for a long time, shouldn't the government do their best to get whatever test available? This is not the time for pride, CDC.

And of course, doing the test also help understand the disease.

Wrong. We have a tiny house that is two bedrooms and one bath. Most apartments are larger. Spouse who is sick gets the bedroom. Simple.

So who get to use the bathroom? I'd like to know who can hold pee for 14 days or months.

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Anonymous wrote:Op I’m sorry but what difference does it make? Act like you have it and stay away from vulnerable family members. Hospital can’t do anything for you at this stage anyway. If you have it you will likely recover. Just self- quarantine. I get that this is hard and you want to know if you have it. But we are all supposed to be social distancing anyway at this point.

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I get that you're worried but knowing or not knowing doesn't change what you should do, as getting positive results won't automatically get you a hospital bed.

If you really need a test call small emergency rooms (like an urgent care). I am not in DC but went to a small one and they told me they had 20 tests so they had to use very sparingly. Although I fit the symptoms because I did not travel outside of the country, they didn't test me. I thought I might have the flu and was tested for that.

Anonymous wrote:No test is not an excuse for the government not doing anything to help, people pay them tax to serve, especially in situation like this.

Staying in separate room doesn't solve the problem, especially for people living in apartment complex with central AC, there isn't enough space to be in total isolation in a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment either.

People who need test but couldn't get one should get in touch with media outlet for help, make your voice heard, if there are enough of you complaining, the government can figure out a strategy to deal with this group.

In Wuhan, China, they send people with symptom to a designated hotel, observe them and streamline testing them, it is important to separate them from healthy family members. Here when we say social distancing, it shouldn't be just with people not your immediate family, it is important to distance anyone if you have symptom.

Also regarding to the test, they could just take the test kits recommend by WHO or buy it from other countries, we put our lives on hold and some families really can't afford living like this for a long time, shouldn't the government do their best to get whatever test available? This is not the time for pride, CDC.

And of course, doing the test also help understand the disease.

Wrong. We have a tiny house that is two bedrooms and one bath. Most apartments are larger. Spouse who is sick gets the bedroom. Simple.