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Anonymous wrote:Huh? Teacher here. Staying til 4 was actually part of our contract for this reason. You're supposed to help the kids who are having trouble with the content material.

I also had to help kids who came during my lunch and free periods.

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I've never heard of teachers being allowed to say no to students who are coming to them for extra help after school. That's part of their job!!!

They're not supposed to leave at 2:30 when the last bell rings and students leave.

Yes we can. We have contract hours. They cannot require us to work beyond them. Your kids can come to us during their study hall or before school when we are more likely to be there. Staying after contract hours is NOT REQUIRED and to insist we do it for free is ludicrous. We are humans with lives and families of our own. Have your kid ask help during the day or pay for tutoring. Those are your options.

I think you are unaware that different schools have different contract policies. I think you may also want to review yours just in case before you assert your case so strongly.--teacher

I’m well aware of my obligations and my contract hours. They are exactly what I said they are. I am not required to stay after school nor are most public school teachers.

Yes you are.. your contract say stay until 4:15.

How do you know what someone else’s contract says? My contract hours are 7-3. School day starts at 7:50 and ends at 2:50. I am definitely NOT required to stay a minute past 3, though I often do as I prefer to get work done at school rather than at home.

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Anonymous wrote:When I taught high school my contract hours were 7-3. School was from 7:50-2:50. So providing after school tutoring would not be part of my contract hours/I would not be paid for it. I did, however, stay late one afternoon per week, sometimes more toward the end of the semester w exams coming up, to offer free (unpaid) after school tutoring. I also worked at least 3 hours each day at home w planning, grading, professional development, ongoing education to make myself a better teacher etc. that time I worked from home was also unpaid.

I understand lots of people work outside their contracted hours. But no one should be expected to work that much without pay. Just because it happens in many jobs doesn’t make it ok.

But a child could have come in at 7 for extra help.

They could have but i probably would have been in a meeting. We had meetings (IEPs, 504s, staff and dept meetings, etc) practically every morning.

Oh also, I never (not once) in 5 years of teaching had a student ask to come in the morning or just show up in the morning before school for extra help. If they asked for extra help at all (which was rare) they’d ask to come in during lunch or after school. More often I’d have parents email asking if their kid could come in and I’d tell them the kid could come on the designated day each week that I stayed late. Most of those kids never showed up. High school students and even middle school students overwhelmingly don’t listen to their parents about coming to the teacher for extra help. The ones who did come were usually good students who had been absent and wanted to catch up or just didn’t quite understand a concept; the kids who really needed that extra help never showed up.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really your personal time? I don’t think teachers workday is done at the ringing of the last bell.

Oh yes it is. My contract hours end at 4:15 and I am DONE. Teachers who work hours after that for free are why we get paid crap. Of course they won’t raise our pay when martyrs will do it for free. I love my job but I am not a 24/7 employee and your kid’s essay is not more important than me spending time with my own children. When the bell rings, I’m off just like anyone else.

Why can’t you have them from 3 to 4

That is my last block of the day. I teach high school. I am in class at that time.

Where? Our HS ends at 3.

That’s great. Different schools have different hours. Weird, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:When I taught high school my contract hours were 7-3. School was from 7:50-2:50. So providing after school tutoring would not be part of my contract hours/I would not be paid for it. I did, however, stay late one afternoon per week, sometimes more toward the end of the semester w exams coming up, to offer free (unpaid) after school tutoring. I also worked at least 3 hours each day at home w planning, grading, professional development, ongoing education to make myself a better teacher etc. that time I worked from home was also unpaid.

I understand lots of people work outside their contracted hours. But no one should be expected to work that much without pay. Just because it happens in many jobs doesn’t make it ok.

But a child could have come in at 7 for extra help.

They could have but i probably would have been in a meeting. We had meetings (IEPs, 504s, staff and dept meetings, etc) practically every morning.

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Anonymous wrote:Since when did arriving to work and leaving on time become a bad thing?

bad, bad teacher for not giving up a personal life to accommodate the system's "needs"

But everyone is saying it's not personal life--for many counties it's designated contracted work time for 1 hour or less 1 day a week, there's just some teacher flexibility on what day/time to do it. It really isn't that bad of a deal.

Anonymous wrote:Since when did arriving to work and leaving on time become a bad thing?

bad, bad teacher for not giving up a personal life to accommodate the system's "needs"

Since when did arriving to work and leaving on time become a bad thing?

OP - If you stay after, designate ONE day to do so. And that's it.

At my last school (high school), we had an hour-long lunch - 30 for help, 30 for lunch. I would usually eat with the kids and spend more time with them, but that was my choice.

I didn't stay after.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really your personal time? I don’t think teachers workday is done at the ringing of the last bell.

Oh yes it is. My contract hours end at 4:15 and I am DONE. Teachers who work hours after that for free are why we get paid crap. Of course they won’t raise our pay when martyrs will do it for free. I love my job but I am not a 24/7 employee and your kid’s essay is not more important than me spending time with my own children. When the bell rings, I’m off just like anyone else.

Why can’t you have them from 3 to 4

That is my last block of the day. I teach high school. I am in class at that time.

Where? Our HS ends at 3.

Wow, did you know different districts have different bell schedules?

I don’t know 1 that doesn’t have time before or after or during school time for extra help.

If it’s true teacher are unavailability it points to a huge problem in your school.

Anonymous wrote:When I taught high school my contract hours were 7-3. School was from 7:50-2:50. So providing after school tutoring would not be part of my contract hours/I would not be paid for it. I did, however, stay late one afternoon per week, sometimes more toward the end of the semester w exams coming up, to offer free (unpaid) after school tutoring. I also worked at least 3 hours each day at home w planning, grading, professional development, ongoing education to make myself a better teacher etc. that time I worked from home was also unpaid.

I understand lots of people work outside their contracted hours. But no one should be expected to work that much without pay. Just because it happens in many jobs doesn’t make it ok.

But a child could have come in at 7 for extra help.