Anonymous
04/24/2023 11:25
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
Starting with his ex wife Ivana who accused him of violently raping her in 1989, you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
And, she recanted her accusation. You kind of forgot that part.....
Do you remember the mob tactics Trump tried to use to get Stormy Daniels to shut up? You think she went ahead and published that story in a book and that she just… made it up?
Anonymous
04/24/2023 11:22
Subject: Re:E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations
Wikipedia
Donald Trump, the president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s.[1][2] The accusations have resulted in three instances of litigation: his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1990 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim;[3] businesswoman Jill Harth sued Trump in 1997 alleging breach of contract while also suing for sexual harassment but agreed to forfeit her sexual harassment claim as part of a settlement she received relating to the former suit; and, in 2017, former The Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit after Trump accused her of lying about her sexual misconduct allegations against him.[4]
Two of the allegations (by Ivana Trump and Jill Harth) became public before Trump's candidacy for president, but the rest arose after a 2005 audio recording was leaked during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump was recorded bragging that a celebrity like himself "can do anything" to women, including "just start kissing them ... I don't even wait" and "grab 'em by the pussy". Trump subsequently characterized those comments as "locker room talk" and denied actually behaving that way toward women, and he also apologized for the crude language. Many of his accusers stated that Trump's denials provoked them into going public with their allegations.
Another type of accusation was made, primarily after the audio recording surfaced, by several former Miss USA and Miss Teen USA contestants, who accused Trump of entering the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants. Trump, who owned the Miss Universe franchise, which includes both pageants, was accused of going into dressing rooms in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2006, while contestants were in various stages of undress. Trump had already referred to this practice during a 2005 interview on The Howard Stern Show, saying he could "get away with things like that" because he owned the beauty pageants in which the women and girls were competing.
In June 2019, writer E. Jean Carroll alleged in New York magazine that Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in 1995 or 1996. The magazine said two friends of Carroll confirmed that Carroll had previously confided in them in regard to the incident. Trump called the allegation fiction and denied ever meeting Carroll, although New York had published a photo of Trump and Carroll together in 1987.[5][6][7] In October 2019, the book All the President's Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator[a] by Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy was published, containing 43 additional allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump.[8][9]
Trump has denied all the allegations against him, saying he has been the victim of media bias, conspiracies, and a political smear campaign.[10][11][12][13] In October 2016, Trump publicly vowed to sue all the women who have made allegations of sexual misconduct against him, as well as The New York Times for publishing the allegations,[14][15] but he has yet to follow through with any legal action.[16][17]
Accusations filed in court against Trump
Main articles: Legal affairs of Donald Trump and List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump
Ivana Trump (1989)
Ivana and Donald Trump in 1985
Ivana Trump and Donald Trump married in 1977.[3] Ivana stated in a deposition taken in 1990, during their divorce proceedings, that Donald had visited her plastic surgeon following which he had expressed anger and ripped out hair from her scalp.[3] Donald said the allegation was "obviously false".[18] The book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald Trump (1993), by Harry Hurt III, described the alleged attack as a "violent assault" during which Donald attacked Ivana sexually.[18] According to the book, Ivana later confided to some of her friends that Donald had raped her.[18] In a statement given just before the publication of Hurt's book, and included in the book, Ivana said:
[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a "rape", but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.
— Ivana Trump[18]
The Trumps' divorce was granted in December 1990[19] on grounds that Donald's treatment of Ivana, including his affair with Marla Maples, was "cruel and inhuman".[20] According to Donald Trump's lawyer, Jay Goldberg, this was based on Trump's having been seen in public with Marla Maples in 1990.[19] Their settlement[b] had a confidentiality clause preventing Ivana from discussing the marriage or the divorce.[3][23] In 1992, Trump sued Ivana for not honoring a gag clause in their divorce agreement by disclosing facts about him in her best-selling book, and Trump won a gag order.[24][25][26]
Years later, Ivana said she and Donald "are the best of friends".[3] In a July 2015 campaign endorsement, Ivana said: "I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit."[27][28]
Jill Harth (1992)
Jill Harth alleged that Trump assaulted her several times. Harth has stated that in December 1992, while dining with Trump and her then-boyfriend George Houraney, Trump attempted to put his hands between her legs.[3] Harth and Houraney visited Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida in January 1993 for a contract-signing celebration. Trump, according to Harth, offered her a tour before pulling her into the empty bedroom of his daughter Ivanka. "I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he's pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me. He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out." Harth says she desperately protested against Trump's advances and eventually managed to run out of the room. She and her boyfriend left rather than stay the night, as they had intended.[3] After she became engaged, Harth alleges, Trump began to stalk her.[18]
Harth filed a lawsuit in 1997 in which she accused Trump of non-consensual groping of her body, among them her "intimate private parts",[29][30] and "relentless" sexual harassment.[31] The suit was withdrawn after Houraney settled with Trump for an undisclosed amount in a lawsuit that claimed Trump had backed out of a business deal.[3][32] She still claims to have been sexually assaulted[3] and although he was never violent with her, she says his actions were "unwanted and aggressive, very sexually aggressive".[18]
Following the incident, Harth said she received "a couple years of therapy". In 2015, she contacted Trump's campaign to get a job as a makeup artist and sell her men's cosmetic product line. She later said, "Yes, I had moved on but had not forgotten the pain [Trump] brought into my life. I was older, wiser. Trump was married to Melania and I had hoped he was a changed man."[33] She worked at one of Trump's rallies as a makeup artist. Of the experience, she said: "I'm a makeup artist. The guy is a mess, OK? He really needed my services, and I'm a makeup artist that needs a job. Why would, if I was on friendly terms, why wouldn't I try to get that job?"[18]
Harth's lawsuit was first published in February 2016 by LawNewz.com.[34] Her case was first published in May 2016[18] in The New York Times article "Crossing the Line".[35] Trump characterized her story in the Times as "false, malicious and libelous" and he "strongly denies the claims".[18] Harth stood by her charges in a July 2016 interview with The Guardian.[32] In October 2016, she said that, if sued by Trump, she intends to counter-sue.[36]
E. Jean Carroll (1995 or 1996)
Main article: E. Jean Carroll litigation against Donald Trump
On November 4, 2019, writer E. Jean Carroll filed a lawsuit against Trump, accusing him of defamation by claiming she lied about him raping her in 1995 or 1996. The author, who had first publicly disclosed the alleged sexual assault by Trump in June, said Trump's reaction to the accusation has directly harmed her career and reputation.[37] Carroll said she was filing this lawsuit on behalf of each woman who has faced harassment, assault, or belittlement.[38] Furthermore, Trump has stated that her allegation was just a promotion strategy for her book titled What Do We Need Men For? A Modest Proposal, where she discloses details about the alleged assault. The White House Press Secretary responded to the lawsuit claiming it was "frivolous" and that the story was fake, "just like the author".[39]
In September 2020, the Justice Department argued that Trump had acted "within the scope" of the presidency when he called Carroll a liar, moved the case from a state court (which had recently denied Trump's motion to delay the case) to federal court, and sought to take over his defense. During the discovery phase, Trump could have been required to testify and to provide a DNA sample. Attorney general Bill Barr cited the Westfall Act as allowing the Justice Department to defend federal employees against civil liability for acts conducted in the normal course of their duties. Barr stated the White House had requested the Justice Department action and noted that taxpayers would pay any judgment should Carroll win the case.[40][41][42][43][44] Since government employees largely enjoy immunity from defamation suits, the Justice Department argued that Trump had spoken in his official capacity as president.[45] On October 27, federal judge Lewis Kaplan rejected that argument and allowed the suit to proceed considering Trump's actions as a private citizen[46]—not an officer of a federal agency (as the Justice Department claimed) but a constitutional officer.[47] On November 20, Kaplan ordered Trump's prior private attorneys to resume representing him in the case.[48] On November 25, the Department of Justice appealed Judge Kaplan's ruling in the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.[49]
In June 2021, the Justice Department — then under the Biden administration — argued in a court brief that it should substitute itself as the defendant in the case because Trump had acted as a federal employee.[50]
A trial is scheduled for April 25, 2023.[51]
Summer Zervos (2007)
Summer Zervos was a contestant on the fifth season of The Apprentice, which filmed in 2005 and aired in 2006.[52][c] Subsequently, she contacted Trump in 2007, about a job after the show's completion, and he invited her to meet him at The Beverly Hills Hotel. Zervos has said that Trump was sexually suggestive during their meeting, kissing her open-mouthed, groping her breasts,[52] and thrusting his genitals on her.[54] She also has said that his behavior was aggressive and not consensual.[53] Zervos was represented by attorney Gloria Allred,[55] and later by Beth Wilkinson and Moira Penza, with whom she chose to end the case in 2021.[56]
John Barry, her cousin and a Trump supporter, has said Zervos talked to her family and friends about Trump, promoting his candidacy and stating how Trump had helped her out in her life. Barry said that during the presidential primary campaign, Zervos invited Trump to her restaurant, and he declined.[55][57] In October 2016, the Trump presidential campaign released an email by Zervos, sent to Trump's secretary in April 2016, in which she stated: "I would greatly appreciate reconnecting at this time. He will know my intentions are genuine." Zervos said she had intended to confront Trump and give him the "opportunity to clear the air". On April 21, she sent another email to Trump's assistant which she asked to be forwarded to Trump, in which she stated: "I have been incredibly hurt by our previous interaction."[57]
On January 17, 2017, Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit against Trump, arising from his statement that she had lied about the allegations.[58][59] Marc Kasowitz is defending Trump in the case.[60] Zervos has filed a subpoena for "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately".[61] On March 21, 2018, a New York Supreme Court judge decided to allow a defamation lawsuit against the President to go forward.[62][63][64] On June 4, 2018, Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Jennifer Schecter ruled that Trump must be deposed by January 31, 2019.[65]
As of September 9, 2018, Trump was to provide written answers under oath in the defamation lawsuit.[66]
On March 14, 2019, a New York appeals court rejected President Trump's argument that the Constitution makes him immune from state lawsuits, clearing the way for a defamation suit.[67][68] On November 2, 2019, Trump agreed to submit to questioning under oath by January 31, 2020.[69]
In January 2020, a New York intermediate appellate court put the defamation lawsuit on hold, until a New York court of appeals could decide the fate of the case. The case hold meant that the January 31, 2020, deadline for Trump to testify was also put on hold.[70]
In February 2021, following Trump's defeat in the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Zervos refiled the lawsuit, arguing that Trump can no longer make the legal argument that presidential immunity protects him from litigation, as he is no longer president. On March 30, 2021, the New York state Court of Appeals ruled in her favor.[71] Trump was instructed to provide a deposition by December 23, 2021.[72] On November 12, Zervos withdrew from the case. Her attorneys said that Trump did not pay her to withdraw and that she "has secured the right to speak freely about her experience".[56]
Alva Johnson (2019)
On February 25, 2019, Alva Johnson filed a lawsuit against Trump, alleging he had forcibly kissed her at a rally in Florida in August 2016 while she was working on his 2016 presidential campaign.[73] Johnson said two people—including Pam Bondi, then the attorney general of Florida—saw the kiss, but both denied seeing it.[74] According to an interview with Teen Vogue, Johnson decided to stop working for the Trump campaign after the media started covering the Access Hollywood tape. She declared sick days until she could speak to a lawyer.[75] In addition to the "unwanted sexual attention", the lawsuit also alleges that Johnson was "a victim of race and gender discrimination through unequal pay".[75][76] In response, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders called the lawsuit "absurd on its face".[74]
On June 14, 2019, the trial court dismissed the complaint without prejudice to allow Johnson to plead a count for battery without any descriptions of Trump's other alleged acts of sexual battery, and to provide necessary details regarding claims of discrimination.[77] On September 4, 2019, Johnson filed a notice that she was not filing an amended complaint, ending the lawsuit.[78] Johnson decided to drop the lawsuit because she was "facing a judge who openly questions whether the kiss is worthy of a federal lawsuit and has determined that Mr. Trump's history of such behavior is not relevant, and I've endured ongoing threats to my safety."[79]
The New York Times May 2016 story
Recording controversy and second 2016 presidential debate
Public allegations since 2016
Pageant dressing room visits
Other incidents
Reactions
Wikipedia
Donald Trump, the president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s.[1][2] The accusations have resulted in three instances of litigation: his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1990 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim;[3] businesswoman Jill Harth sued Trump in 1997 alleging breach of contract while also suing for sexual harassment but agreed to forfeit her sexual harassment claim as part of a settlement she received relating to the former suit; and, in 2017, former The Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit after Trump accused her of lying about her sexual misconduct allegations against him.[4]
Two of the allegations (by Ivana Trump and Jill Harth) became public before Trump's candidacy for president, but the rest arose after a 2005 audio recording was leaked during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump was recorded bragging that a celebrity like himself "can do anything" to women, including "just start kissing them ... I don't even wait" and "grab 'em by the pussy". Trump subsequently characterized those comments as "locker room talk" and denied actually behaving that way toward women, and he also apologized for the crude language. Many of his accusers stated that Trump's denials provoked them into going public with their allegations.
Another type of accusation was made, primarily after the audio recording surfaced, by several former Miss USA and Miss Teen USA contestants, who accused Trump of entering the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants. Trump, who owned the Miss Universe franchise, which includes both pageants, was accused of going into dressing rooms in 1997, 2000, 2001, and 2006, while contestants were in various stages of undress. Trump had already referred to this practice during a 2005 interview on The Howard Stern Show, saying he could "get away with things like that" because he owned the beauty pageants in which the women and girls were competing.
In June 2019, writer E. Jean Carroll alleged in New York magazine that Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in 1995 or 1996. The magazine said two friends of Carroll confirmed that Carroll had previously confided in them in regard to the incident. Trump called the allegation fiction and denied ever meeting Carroll, although New York had published a photo of Trump and Carroll together in 1987.[5][6][7] In October 2019, the book All the President's Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator[a] by Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy was published, containing 43 additional allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump.[8][9]
Trump has denied all the allegations against him, saying he has been the victim of media bias, conspiracies, and a political smear campaign.[10][11][12][13] In October 2016, Trump publicly vowed to sue all the women who have made allegations of sexual misconduct against him, as well as The New York Times for publishing the allegations,[14][15] but he has yet to follow through with any legal action.[16][17]
Accusations filed in court against Trump
Main articles: Legal affairs of Donald Trump and List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump
Ivana Trump (1989)
Ivana and Donald Trump in 1985
Ivana Trump and Donald Trump married in 1977.[3] Ivana stated in a deposition taken in 1990, during their divorce proceedings, that Donald had visited her plastic surgeon following which he had expressed anger and ripped out hair from her scalp.[3] Donald said the allegation was "obviously false".[18] The book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald Trump (1993), by Harry Hurt III, described the alleged attack as a "violent assault" during which Donald attacked Ivana sexually.[18] According to the book, Ivana later confided to some of her friends that Donald had raped her.[18] In a statement given just before the publication of Hurt's book, and included in the book, Ivana said:
[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a "rape", but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.
— Ivana Trump[18]
The Trumps' divorce was granted in December 1990[19] on grounds that Donald's treatment of Ivana, including his affair with Marla Maples, was "cruel and inhuman".[20] According to Donald Trump's lawyer, Jay Goldberg, this was based on Trump's having been seen in public with Marla Maples in 1990.[19] Their settlement[b] had a confidentiality clause preventing Ivana from discussing the marriage or the divorce.[3][23] In 1992, Trump sued Ivana for not honoring a gag clause in their divorce agreement by disclosing facts about him in her best-selling book, and Trump won a gag order.[24][25][26]
Years later, Ivana said she and Donald "are the best of friends".[3] In a July 2015 campaign endorsement, Ivana said: "I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit."[27][28]
Jill Harth (1992)
Jill Harth alleged that Trump assaulted her several times. Harth has stated that in December 1992, while dining with Trump and her then-boyfriend George Houraney, Trump attempted to put his hands between her legs.[3] Harth and Houraney visited Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida in January 1993 for a contract-signing celebration. Trump, according to Harth, offered her a tour before pulling her into the empty bedroom of his daughter Ivanka. "I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he's pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me. He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out." Harth says she desperately protested against Trump's advances and eventually managed to run out of the room. She and her boyfriend left rather than stay the night, as they had intended.[3] After she became engaged, Harth alleges, Trump began to stalk her.[18]
Harth filed a lawsuit in 1997 in which she accused Trump of non-consensual groping of her body, among them her "intimate private parts",[29][30] and "relentless" sexual harassment.[31] The suit was withdrawn after Houraney settled with Trump for an undisclosed amount in a lawsuit that claimed Trump had backed out of a business deal.[3][32] She still claims to have been sexually assaulted[3] and although he was never violent with her, she says his actions were "unwanted and aggressive, very sexually aggressive".[18]
Following the incident, Harth said she received "a couple years of therapy". In 2015, she contacted Trump's campaign to get a job as a makeup artist and sell her men's cosmetic product line. She later said, "Yes, I had moved on but had not forgotten the pain [Trump] brought into my life. I was older, wiser. Trump was married to Melania and I had hoped he was a changed man."[33] She worked at one of Trump's rallies as a makeup artist. Of the experience, she said: "I'm a makeup artist. The guy is a mess, OK? He really needed my services, and I'm a makeup artist that needs a job. Why would, if I was on friendly terms, why wouldn't I try to get that job?"[18]
Harth's lawsuit was first published in February 2016 by LawNewz.com.[34] Her case was first published in May 2016[18] in The New York Times article "Crossing the Line".[35] Trump characterized her story in the Times as "false, malicious and libelous" and he "strongly denies the claims".[18] Harth stood by her charges in a July 2016 interview with The Guardian.[32] In October 2016, she said that, if sued by Trump, she intends to counter-sue.[36]
E. Jean Carroll (1995 or 1996)
Main article: E. Jean Carroll litigation against Donald Trump
On November 4, 2019, writer E. Jean Carroll filed a lawsuit against Trump, accusing him of defamation by claiming she lied about him raping her in 1995 or 1996. The author, who had first publicly disclosed the alleged sexual assault by Trump in June, said Trump's reaction to the accusation has directly harmed her career and reputation.[37] Carroll said she was filing this lawsuit on behalf of each woman who has faced harassment, assault, or belittlement.[38] Furthermore, Trump has stated that her allegation was just a promotion strategy for her book titled What Do We Need Men For? A Modest Proposal, where she discloses details about the alleged assault. The White House Press Secretary responded to the lawsuit claiming it was "frivolous" and that the story was fake, "just like the author".[39]
In September 2020, the Justice Department argued that Trump had acted "within the scope" of the presidency when he called Carroll a liar, moved the case from a state court (which had recently denied Trump's motion to delay the case) to federal court, and sought to take over his defense. During the discovery phase, Trump could have been required to testify and to provide a DNA sample. Attorney general Bill Barr cited the Westfall Act as allowing the Justice Department to defend federal employees against civil liability for acts conducted in the normal course of their duties. Barr stated the White House had requested the Justice Department action and noted that taxpayers would pay any judgment should Carroll win the case.[40][41][42][43][44] Since government employees largely enjoy immunity from defamation suits, the Justice Department argued that Trump had spoken in his official capacity as president.[45] On October 27, federal judge Lewis Kaplan rejected that argument and allowed the suit to proceed considering Trump's actions as a private citizen[46]—not an officer of a federal agency (as the Justice Department claimed) but a constitutional officer.[47] On November 20, Kaplan ordered Trump's prior private attorneys to resume representing him in the case.[48] On November 25, the Department of Justice appealed Judge Kaplan's ruling in the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.[49]
In June 2021, the Justice Department — then under the Biden administration — argued in a court brief that it should substitute itself as the defendant in the case because Trump had acted as a federal employee.[50]
A trial is scheduled for April 25, 2023.[51]
Summer Zervos (2007)
Summer Zervos was a contestant on the fifth season of The Apprentice, which filmed in 2005 and aired in 2006.[52][c] Subsequently, she contacted Trump in 2007, about a job after the show's completion, and he invited her to meet him at The Beverly Hills Hotel. Zervos has said that Trump was sexually suggestive during their meeting, kissing her open-mouthed, groping her breasts,[52] and thrusting his genitals on her.[54] She also has said that his behavior was aggressive and not consensual.[53] Zervos was represented by attorney Gloria Allred,[55] and later by Beth Wilkinson and Moira Penza, with whom she chose to end the case in 2021.[56]
John Barry, her cousin and a Trump supporter, has said Zervos talked to her family and friends about Trump, promoting his candidacy and stating how Trump had helped her out in her life. Barry said that during the presidential primary campaign, Zervos invited Trump to her restaurant, and he declined.[55][57] In October 2016, the Trump presidential campaign released an email by Zervos, sent to Trump's secretary in April 2016, in which she stated: "I would greatly appreciate reconnecting at this time. He will know my intentions are genuine." Zervos said she had intended to confront Trump and give him the "opportunity to clear the air". On April 21, she sent another email to Trump's assistant which she asked to be forwarded to Trump, in which she stated: "I have been incredibly hurt by our previous interaction."[57]
On January 17, 2017, Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit against Trump, arising from his statement that she had lied about the allegations.[58][59] Marc Kasowitz is defending Trump in the case.[60] Zervos has filed a subpoena for "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately".[61] On March 21, 2018, a New York Supreme Court judge decided to allow a defamation lawsuit against the President to go forward.[62][63][64] On June 4, 2018, Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Jennifer Schecter ruled that Trump must be deposed by January 31, 2019.[65]
As of September 9, 2018, Trump was to provide written answers under oath in the defamation lawsuit.[66]
On March 14, 2019, a New York appeals court rejected President Trump's argument that the Constitution makes him immune from state lawsuits, clearing the way for a defamation suit.[67][68] On November 2, 2019, Trump agreed to submit to questioning under oath by January 31, 2020.[69]
In January 2020, a New York intermediate appellate court put the defamation lawsuit on hold, until a New York court of appeals could decide the fate of the case. The case hold meant that the January 31, 2020, deadline for Trump to testify was also put on hold.[70]
In February 2021, following Trump's defeat in the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Zervos refiled the lawsuit, arguing that Trump can no longer make the legal argument that presidential immunity protects him from litigation, as he is no longer president. On March 30, 2021, the New York state Court of Appeals ruled in her favor.[71] Trump was instructed to provide a deposition by December 23, 2021.[72] On November 12, Zervos withdrew from the case. Her attorneys said that Trump did not pay her to withdraw and that she "has secured the right to speak freely about her experience".[56]
Alva Johnson (2019)
On February 25, 2019, Alva Johnson filed a lawsuit against Trump, alleging he had forcibly kissed her at a rally in Florida in August 2016 while she was working on his 2016 presidential campaign.[73] Johnson said two people—including Pam Bondi, then the attorney general of Florida—saw the kiss, but both denied seeing it.[74] According to an interview with Teen Vogue, Johnson decided to stop working for the Trump campaign after the media started covering the Access Hollywood tape. She declared sick days until she could speak to a lawyer.[75] In addition to the "unwanted sexual attention", the lawsuit also alleges that Johnson was "a victim of race and gender discrimination through unequal pay".[75][76] In response, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders called the lawsuit "absurd on its face".[74]
On June 14, 2019, the trial court dismissed the complaint without prejudice to allow Johnson to plead a count for battery without any descriptions of Trump's other alleged acts of sexual battery, and to provide necessary details regarding claims of discrimination.[77] On September 4, 2019, Johnson filed a notice that she was not filing an amended complaint, ending the lawsuit.[78] Johnson decided to drop the lawsuit because she was "facing a judge who openly questions whether the kiss is worthy of a federal lawsuit and has determined that Mr. Trump's history of such behavior is not relevant, and I've endured ongoing threats to my safety."[79]
The New York Times May 2016 story
Recording controversy and second 2016 presidential debate
Public allegations since 2016
Pageant dressing room visits
Other incidents
Reactions
Anonymous
04/24/2023 11:19
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
#MeToo wasn’t a thing before Trump became POTUS. And most victims of sexual assault won’t come forward. Especially when the rapist is vengeful AF and uses mob boss techniques against accusers. Nobody thought Harvey Weinstein was a serial rapist until #MeToo.
Anonymous
04/24/2023 11:16
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
His affairs run all the way back to his first marriage and he’s cheated on all three of his wives. His grab em comment was from before he ran for president. He long cultivated his image as a playboy. We all know men like him are likely to be harassers.
Most women who are sexually harassed and assaulted don’t come out with their stories immediately. Only someone who has never experienced that would bring up women’s silence over harassment as a reason to doubt the veracity.
Yeah. Most wait nearly 30 years.
Donald Trump, the president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations - Wikipedia
Anonymous
04/24/2023 11:15
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
Not true - other women had complained but were rightfully afraid he would destroy them.
He is on tape boasting about sexually assaulting women he find attractive … and deluding himself that they enjoy his unwanted “attention”
…
Anonymous
04/24/2023 08:37
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
His affairs run all the way back to his first marriage and he’s cheated on all three of his wives. His grab em comment was from before he ran for president. He long cultivated his image as a playboy. We all know men like him are likely to be harassers.
Most women who are sexually harassed and assaulted don’t come out with their stories immediately. Only someone who has never experienced that would bring up women’s silence over harassment as a reason to doubt the veracity.
Yeah. Most wait nearly 30 years.
Anonymous
04/24/2023 08:36
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
Starting with his ex wife Ivana who accused him of violently raping her in 1989, you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
And, she recanted her accusation. You kind of forgot that part.....
Anonymous
04/24/2023 08:35
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
Starting with his ex wife Ivana who accused him of violently raping her in 1989, you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
Anonymous
04/24/2023 08:01
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
His affairs run all the way back to his first marriage and he’s cheated on all three of his wives. His grab em comment was from before he ran for president. He long cultivated his image as a playboy. We all know men like him are likely to be harassers.
Most women who are sexually harassed and assaulted don’t come out with their stories immediately. Only someone who has never experienced that would bring up women’s silence over harassment as a reason to doubt the veracity.
Anonymous
04/24/2023 07:57
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has. After nearly 30 years.
Anonymous
04/24/2023 07:35
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?
Anonymous
04/24/2023 07:33
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.
Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stormy-daniels-affairs-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp
Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Anonymous
04/24/2023 07:14
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trial begins on Tues., April 25. Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up. If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.
The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably scads of proof that he’s guilty.
From E Jean Carroll? Surely you jest.
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when.
Sure. There MUST have been cameras in the store. Surely they have video.
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.
“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html
“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”
Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition
You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.
Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault. I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.
Anonymous
04/23/2023 23:20
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:For her story to be true, Trump would have had to predict that she wouldn't want to help him pick out a hat, so he could then get her to try on lingerie. And this just happened to be at a time when no one was around. He just saw an opportunity and took it.
She is probably in big trouble with Trump's lawyers taking a look at the layout of the store in 1985 or 1986 compared to now(strange she can't pick out the year, did she get advice from Christine Blasey Ford?). Doubtful they would be able to get video from back then.
Have you ever been raped? Or, are you a male (which I suspect) who thinks women ask to be raped,
Frequently, rape victims block details if the assault from their mind because it helps them deal with the reality of what happened to them.
Anonymous
04/23/2023 22:38
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She told Anderson Cooper that women find rape sexy. Anderson cut to commercial.
This sounds like nonsense.
Please link to evidence.
CARROLL: I was not thrown on the ground and ravished. Which the word "rape" carries so many sexual connotations. This was not -- this was not sexual. It just hurt. It just --
COOPER: I think most people think of rape as a -- it is a violent assault. It is not --
CARROLL: I think most people think of rape as being sexy.
COOPER: Let's take a short break --
CARROLL: They think of the fantasies.
COOPER: We're going to take a quick break. If you can stick around we'll talk more on the other side.
Did you have a hard time with English classes where you had to interpret what you read?