Georgetown seems like some weird, fading place. ND has all the momentum.

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Anonymous wrote:Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

Nobody cares about any of these rankings except US News, where ND's spot in the top 25 appears quite secure while GU's is hanging by a thread.

There's no school outside the top 25 that's better than GU so, there's nothing to worry about. GUs only real competition outside the top 25 on USnews is Wake, Tufts, USC , and MAYBE NYU. And honestly they aren't really competition...Georgetown will be just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

Nobody cares about any of these rankings except US News, where ND's spot in the top 25 appears quite secure while GU's is hanging by a thread.

Is Top 25 an actual distinction? People seem to care about T20, not T25 or T30.

Yes, it is used. And frankly Notre Dame is overrated, it's endowment is what keeps it a float on US news. Emory is a much better school with consistent rankings, even though it's barely outside the top 20 on USnews. Globally Emory is ranked demonstrably better.
Emory
US news-21
WSJ-20
US news World- 74

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Anonymous wrote:Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

Nobody cares about any of these rankings except US News, where ND's spot in the top 25 appears quite secure while GU's is hanging by a thread.

Is Top 25 an actual distinction? People seem to care about T20, not T25 or T30.

Whatever rank the school = importance of top X, is the correct formula.

For example..

Villanova. T50

Georgetown. T25

Notre dame. T25

Princeton. T1

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Anonymous wrote:My son looked at both. He got into both but chose ND mainly because he wanted to be further from home, BUT, also he did not like the GT campus...very small and cramped compared to the gorgeous sprawling ND campus.

Georgetown physical facilities are abysmal. ND has some very nice new dorms and older ones with great traditions. South Bend is a bit rough though.

Are you looking for a country club or an education? Nice facilitates are fine but not the most important thing by far to me. Some college tours spend half the tour talking about the dorms and great food. Suit yourself but i would focus on which school is a better fit for my desired path of study.

How about a country club AND an education? For $70,000 a year you should get both, and ND offers both in spades. Georgetown doesn't. There's not a program of study beyond maybe Georgetown's School of Foreign Service where Georgetown is better than Notre Dame.

I imagine real estate price and land availability varies greatly from Georgetown compared to South Bend.

As a potential student who will likely not live in south bend after graduation, so what?

I think PP was offering that as a partial explanation for why Notre Dame has more new buildings than Georgetown.

It doesn't explain at all why GU doesn't have as many new or modernized buildings on its already existing campus. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

Nobody cares about any of these rankings except US News, where ND's spot in the top 25 appears quite secure while GU's is hanging by a thread.

Is Top 25 an actual distinction? People seem to care about T20, not T25 or T30.

Do you really think that anyone believes there is an appreciable difference in prestige/quality/opportingity between Notre Dame (19) and UCLA (20) vs Emory (21) and Cal (22)?

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Anonymous wrote:My son looked at both. He got into both but chose ND mainly because he wanted to be further from home, BUT, also he did not like the GT campus...very small and cramped compared to the gorgeous sprawling ND campus.

Georgetown physical facilities are abysmal. ND has some very nice new dorms and older ones with great traditions. South Bend is a bit rough though.

Are you looking for a country club or an education? Nice facilitates are fine but not the most important thing by far to me. Some college tours spend half the tour talking about the dorms and great food. Suit yourself but i would focus on which school is a better fit for my desired path of study.

How about a country club AND an education? For $70,000 a year you should get both, and ND offers both in spades. Georgetown doesn't. There's not a program of study beyond maybe Georgetown's School of Foreign Service where Georgetown is better than Notre Dame.

I imagine real estate price and land availability varies greatly from Georgetown compared to South Bend.

As a potential student who will likely not live in south bend after graduation, so what?

I think PP was offering that as a partial explanation for why Notre Dame has more new buildings than Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:My son looked at both. He got into both but chose ND mainly because he wanted to be further from home, BUT, also he did not like the GT campus...very small and cramped compared to the gorgeous sprawling ND campus.

Georgetown physical facilities are abysmal. ND has some very nice new dorms and older ones with great traditions. South Bend is a bit rough though.

Are you looking for a country club or an education? Nice facilitates are fine but not the most important thing by far to me. Some college tours spend half the tour talking about the dorms and great food. Suit yourself but i would focus on which school is a better fit for my desired path of study.

How about a country club AND an education? For $70,000 a year you should get both, and ND offers both in spades. Georgetown doesn't. There's not a program of study beyond maybe Georgetown's School of Foreign Service where Georgetown is better than Notre Dame.

I imagine real estate price and land availability varies greatly from Georgetown compared to South Bend.

As a potential student who will likely not live in south bend after graduation, so what?

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Anonymous wrote:Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

Nobody cares about any of these rankings except US News, where ND's spot in the top 25 appears quite secure while GU's is hanging by a thread.

Is Top 25 an actual distinction? People seem to care about T20, not T25 or T30.

Dcum cares about these rankings, or at least some subset does enough to carry on about them all day and night.

Anonymous wrote:Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

Nobody cares about any of these rankings except US News, where ND's spot in the top 25 appears quite secure while GU's is hanging by a thread.

This is an unchristian conversation. Focus your gifted students on what they do to make a contribution with their talents instead of worrying which of these two fine institutions in finer.

Considering Notre Dame has such a large endowment, you would think the difference in ranking would be larger...
Notre Dame
US news- 19
WSJ-27
Us news world- 284

GU
US news- 23
WSJ-32
US news World- 314

Peer schools like Vandy and Emory are better ranked across the board.

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Anonymous wrote:Which would you choose, and why?

Unless the student already has a prestigious job or internship lined up in Washington, Notre Dame, because it sounds as if Georgetown has awful
dorms overly competitive students. The low alumni contribution rate seems to be a sign that a lot of the undergrads have a bad experience there.

People here hate on George Mason, but I think that’s the university in the region that’s on the rise. If I could get in-state tuition and really wanted to go to school in the area, I’d focus on George Mason first.

My older sister landed a cush job during her time as an undergrad at GMU which parlayed into the career she still has today...and it paid for school.

GMU has some truly impressive guest speakers and guest professors given it's location.

I am at a job where a huge percentage of employees go to law school locally (while working) and among the American, GW, Georgetown, Catholic and GMU students (some transferred) --they rated GMU as the toughest to get a good grade and the most amount of work. I am a STEM major that went undergrad/MS elsewhere and later went to GMU nights since I had a good job here that paid for extra schooling (for an additional graduate degree) and it was much harder and more was required than what were considered 'better/more competitive universities".

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Anonymous wrote:My son looked at both. He got into both but chose ND mainly because he wanted to be further from home, BUT, also he did not like the GT campus...very small and cramped compared to the gorgeous sprawling ND campus.

Georgetown physical facilities are abysmal. ND has some very nice new dorms and older ones with great traditions. South Bend is a bit rough though.

Are you looking for a country club or an education? Nice facilitates are fine but not the most important thing by far to me. Some college tours spend half the tour talking about the dorms and great food. Suit yourself but i would focus on which school is a better fit for my desired path of study.

How about a country club AND an education? For $70,000 a year you should get both, and ND offers both in spades. Georgetown doesn't. There's not a program of study beyond maybe Georgetown's School of Foreign Service where Georgetown is better than Notre Dame.

I imagine real estate price and land availability varies greatly from Georgetown compared to South Bend.