Anonymous
01/10/2020 13:08
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???
Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.
One of the SB members (was it Monique?) seemed to be nearly in tears when she said that this decision needs to be made ASAP. I thought she was going to propose that they vote on it then and there.
NVD and TT are sure votes. If they've got MO, it's definitely going to happen. There will not be any punting.
None of the Sb members were doing any serious questioning of the proposal. There were softball clarification questions and community questions that they were reading to make sure people knew that they had been heard. No one even hinted at the possibility of punting. I would be shocked if it crumbled at this point. This plan may not please everyone, but there are no good alternatives.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 13:05
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???
Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.
One of the SB members (was it Monique?) seemed to be nearly in tears when she said that this decision needs to be made ASAP. I thought she was going to propose that they vote on it then and there.
NVD and TT are sure votes. If they've got MO, it's definitely going to happen. There will not be any punting.
I got the impression from last night's meeting that MO is 100% on board.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 13:02
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We're at ATS and parking is mostly ok. For big evening events, you have to park on George Mason or at the Safeway. It's 0.75 miles or so away from the Ballston metro, which isn't as close to metro as the current Key, but also isn't tragic. 0.75 miles from metro is better than nearly any other school in the county (or surrounding counties, for that matter.)
ATS can hold at least 4 classes per grade plus VPI. It currently has about that now. Given that only 35 native spanish speakers applied for Key's kindergarten last year, you could do 4 classes per grade and accommodate at least 80 kids per grade, or even 96 per grade (as ATS currently has in most grades) accounting for attrition as kids leave in the later grades (and can't transfer in due to the spanish language requirements.) So I think it could be a good fit once some of the bigger grades transition out.
We're a current ATS family and I worry that McKinley will be a more difficult location for the lower-income families to access, and would be a tougher sell for the South Arlington families in general. But I support the idea of a bigger ATS because, given the waitlist situation, clearly the demand is there for more seats.
won’t you get towed if you park in the Safeway lot? I’m assuming it’s private property.
The school coordinates with Safeway for special events. They just ask that we park on the ATS side of the lot (opposite from the store itself).
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:45
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???
Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.
One of the SB members (was it Monique?) seemed to be nearly in tears when she said that this decision needs to be made ASAP. I thought she was going to propose that they vote on it then and there.
NVD and TT are sure votes. If they've got MO, it's definitely going to happen. There will not be any punting.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:37
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???
Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.
One of the SB members (was it Monique?) seemed to be nearly in tears when she said that this decision needs to be made ASAP. I thought she was going to propose that they vote on it then and there.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:37
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???
Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.
They can't punt. Reed needs to open.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:28
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The guy with the glasses is one tough interrogator. I feel sorry for the people who have to face him.
No, he’s an idiot. Anyone who understands a boundary process knows you can’t say for sure how many kids will move until the boundaries are done. He’s posturing and being difficult because that’s what he does. But he never actually does anything more than that.
He passed on very specific questions that were clearly posed to him by members of the public.
yeah- he was trying to repeat the Key talking point, which only makes sense to those who are within the Key boundary- that somehow they will still need more seats in the Rosslyn neighborhood so thus the move is pointless. First part true- second part- uh no- it will give them 600 seats- that's a good start.
I continue to be baffled by this argument. “We can’t fix everything completely right now, so let’s make things even worse instead.” Huh?
Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?
Saw at ASFS they are having music classes outside due to lack of space - something needs to be changed soon. https://twitter.com/ASFSOnline
Not sure what you want us to do
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:25
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???
Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:24
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:We're at ATS and parking is mostly ok. For big evening events, you have to park on George Mason or at the Safeway. It's 0.75 miles or so away from the Ballston metro, which isn't as close to metro as the current Key, but also isn't tragic. 0.75 miles from metro is better than nearly any other school in the county (or surrounding counties, for that matter.)
ATS can hold at least 4 classes per grade plus VPI. It currently has about that now. Given that only 35 native spanish speakers applied for Key's kindergarten last year, you could do 4 classes per grade and accommodate at least 80 kids per grade, or even 96 per grade (as ATS currently has in most grades) accounting for attrition as kids leave in the later grades (and can't transfer in due to the spanish language requirements.) So I think it could be a good fit once some of the bigger grades transition out.
We're a current ATS family and I worry that McKinley will be a more difficult location for the lower-income families to access, and would be a tougher sell for the South Arlington families in general. But I support the idea of a bigger ATS because, given the waitlist situation, clearly the demand is there for more seats.
won’t you get towed if you park in the Safeway lot? I’m assuming it’s private property.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 12:02
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
We're at ATS and parking is mostly ok. For big evening events, you have to park on George Mason or at the Safeway. It's 0.75 miles or so away from the Ballston metro, which isn't as close to metro as the current Key, but also isn't tragic. 0.75 miles from metro is better than nearly any other school in the county (or surrounding counties, for that matter.)
ATS can hold at least 4 classes per grade plus VPI. It currently has about that now. Given that only 35 native spanish speakers applied for Key's kindergarten last year, you could do 4 classes per grade and accommodate at least 80 kids per grade, or even 96 per grade (as ATS currently has in most grades) accounting for attrition as kids leave in the later grades (and can't transfer in due to the spanish language requirements.) So I think it could be a good fit once some of the bigger grades transition out.
We're a current ATS family and I worry that McKinley will be a more difficult location for the lower-income families to access, and would be a tougher sell for the South Arlington families in general. But I support the idea of a bigger ATS because, given the waitlist situation, clearly the demand is there for more seats.
ATS can hold at least 4 classes per grade plus VPI. It currently has about that now. Given that only 35 native spanish speakers applied for Key's kindergarten last year, you could do 4 classes per grade and accommodate at least 80 kids per grade, or even 96 per grade (as ATS currently has in most grades) accounting for attrition as kids leave in the later grades (and can't transfer in due to the spanish language requirements.) So I think it could be a good fit once some of the bigger grades transition out.
We're a current ATS family and I worry that McKinley will be a more difficult location for the lower-income families to access, and would be a tougher sell for the South Arlington families in general. But I support the idea of a bigger ATS because, given the waitlist situation, clearly the demand is there for more seats.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 11:57
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?[
Can someone please share this proposal?
Yes, please?
I think this is it?
https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7
Oh that is the funniest thing I've seen all day. LOL!!!
I can make no sense of most of it. Some of the colors are similar and/or shaded by green on the map underneath, making it next to impossible to differentiate school zones.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 11:48
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?[
Can someone please share this proposal?
Yes, please?
I think this is it?
https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7
Oh that is the funniest thing I've seen all day. LOL!!!
Anonymous
01/10/2020 11:26
Subject: APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
We're at ATS and find access pretty easy. It's at Wilson and George Mason, so there is regular bus service from the Ballston Metro and it's quick to get to from 66 exit 71 at Glebe. Lots of field space, and the adjacent Safeway allows parking for special events. It's a small/old building but in my opinion only looks bad compared to the close-in, next to Metro location Key enjoys now. We would certainly rather stay there than move to McKinley (but aren't up in arms about it).
Anonymous
01/10/2020 11:19
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?[
Can someone please share this proposal?
Yes, please?
I think this is it?
https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7
Love it! That McKinley boundary would make a gerrymandering politician proud!
Anonymous
01/10/2020 11:09
Subject: Re:APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?
Anonymous wrote:
Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?[
Can someone please share this proposal?
Yes, please?
I think this is it?
https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7