Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 10:19     Subject: Re:What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:According to top drawer soccer for girls 03s
FCV Has one to U of Richmond and two to William and Mary.
Mclean has William and Mary, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Georgetown.
BRYC has Stetson, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech.
Pipeline has Loyola and South Carolina.
Maryland United has Vanderbilt.
Bethesda has Delaware.




Bethesda has an Ohio State commit. The BSC 03 team has 9 2021s and 8 2022s, so they are a younger team.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 10:16     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).


There are mediocre D3 and there are Great D3. I rather see my DD play 100% then watch her ride the bench all through college.
Time to get Educated

D3
Johns Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Imagine a girl who is on one of the top teams in NOVA. Great soccer player, smart and wants to play freshman year through senior year.
Hey coach, she says. John Hopkins is offering an academic scholarship, what should I do?



And what is Lynchburg? Let's say I buy your argument for the sake of the discussion. Are you saying Lynchburg is a Johns Hopkins?



ODU
Redford
Longwood
VCU


What about them? Yes, those are four D1 programs.


Are you saying a player who’s offered any of those D1 schools should pick it over

John Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Schools like CNU and Lynchburg are actually ranked academically better than many D1 colleges. My point is school should be picked over soccer. All it takes is one injury or becoming a benchwarmer to realize the truth. As a coach I tell my players and parents look at the big picture and give yourself a 20 year plan. What college is going to help you the most when you graduate, because no college coach is going to help you get a career.


I'm saying that you keep throwing Johns Hopkins out there as if an offer from Lynchburg is like an offer from Johns Hopkins. It's not. And if a player wants to not play in college in favor of academics, good for them. In the end, at some point, sooner or later, they have to hang up their Cleats.

But you will never sell the narrative that D3 programs are better than D1 programs as far as sports are concerned. It's like trying to sell that the CCL is better than the DA.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 09:41     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).


There are mediocre D3 and there are Great D3. I rather see my DD play 100% then watch her ride the bench all through college.
Time to get Educated

D3
Johns Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Imagine a girl who is on one of the top teams in NOVA. Great soccer player, smart and wants to play freshman year through senior year.
Hey coach, she says. John Hopkins is offering an academic scholarship, what should I do?



And what is Lynchburg? Let's say I buy your argument for the sake of the discussion. Are you saying Lynchburg is a Johns Hopkins?



ODU
Redford
Longwood
VCU


What about them? Yes, those are four D1 programs.


Are you saying a player who’s offered any of those D1 schools should pick it over

John Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Schools like CNU and Lynchburg are actually ranked academically better than many D1 colleges. My point is school should be picked over soccer. All it takes is one injury or becoming a benchwarmer to realize the truth. As a coach I tell my players and parents look at the big picture and give yourself a 20 year plan. What college is going to help you the most when you graduate, because no college coach is going to help you get a career.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 08:54     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).


There are mediocre D3 and there are Great D3. I rather see my DD play 100% then watch her ride the bench all through college.
Time to get Educated

D3
Johns Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Imagine a girl who is on one of the top teams in NOVA. Great soccer player, smart and wants to play freshman year through senior year.
Hey coach, she says. John Hopkins is offering an academic scholarship, what should I do?



And what is Lynchburg? Let's say I buy your argument for the sake of the discussion. Are you saying Lynchburg is a Johns Hopkins?



ODU
Redford
Longwood
VCU


What about them? Yes, those are four D1 programs.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 08:51     Subject: Re:What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to top drawer soccer for girls 03s
FCV Has one to U of Richmond and two to William and Mary.
Mclean has William and Mary, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Georgetown.
BRYC has Stetson, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech.
Pipeline has Loyola and South Carolina.
Maryland United has Vanderbilt.
Bethesda has Delaware.




Folks, this is ridiculous. I think maybe, just maybe, they are looking at players on an individual basis, not waving them in simply based on club affiliation? Give me a break. The reason people choose and get chosen has very little to do with specific club affiliation anymore than where I went to high school is more important than SATs and APs in getting into elite colleges. Don’t confuse causation and correlation. Otherwise I worry that a lot of you made or had pretty bad decisions to make for yourselves when you decided where to go to school.


I don't disagree, but I would say the training environment of the club and the competition it plays contribute to preparing players to be chosen. So lower level clubs prepare for lower level recruiting, and higher level clubs prepare players for higher level programs.


Lower level players train at a lower level.


Exactly. So quality of the youth program matters.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 08:30     Subject: Re:What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to top drawer soccer for girls 03s
FCV Has one to U of Richmond and two to William and Mary.
Mclean has William and Mary, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Georgetown.
BRYC has Stetson, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech.
Pipeline has Loyola and South Carolina.
Maryland United has Vanderbilt.
Bethesda has Delaware.




Folks, this is ridiculous. I think maybe, just maybe, they are looking at players on an individual basis, not waving them in simply based on club affiliation? Give me a break. The reason people choose and get chosen has very little to do with specific club affiliation anymore than where I went to high school is more important than SATs and APs in getting into elite colleges. Don’t confuse causation and correlation. Otherwise I worry that a lot of you made or had pretty bad decisions to make for yourselves when you decided where to go to school.


I don't disagree, but I would say the training environment of the club and the competition it plays contribute to preparing players to be chosen. So lower level clubs prepare for lower level recruiting, and higher level clubs prepare players for higher level programs.


Lower level players train at a lower level.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2019 08:15     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Obviously how good a player is is critical, but the connections your club coach has and their willingness to work hard to promote you play a big role in where you get offers from and there are some clubs (Richmond and McLean) that do a much better job than others.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 21:46     Subject: Re:What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to top drawer soccer for girls 03s
FCV Has one to U of Richmond and two to William and Mary.
Mclean has William and Mary, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Georgetown.
BRYC has Stetson, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech.
Pipeline has Loyola and South Carolina.
Maryland United has Vanderbilt.
Bethesda has Delaware.




Folks, this is ridiculous. I think maybe, just maybe, they are looking at players on an individual basis, not waving them in simply based on club affiliation? Give me a break. The reason people choose and get chosen has very little to do with specific club affiliation anymore than where I went to high school is more important than SATs and APs in getting into elite colleges. Don’t confuse causation and correlation. Otherwise I worry that a lot of you made or had pretty bad decisions to make for yourselves when you decided where to go to school.


I don't disagree, but I would say the training environment of the club and the competition it plays contribute to preparing players to be chosen. So lower level clubs prepare for lower level recruiting, and higher level clubs prepare players for higher level programs.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 21:43     Subject: Re:What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:According to top drawer soccer for girls 03s
FCV Has one to U of Richmond and two to William and Mary.
Mclean has William and Mary, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Georgetown.
BRYC has Stetson, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech.
Pipeline has Loyola and South Carolina.
Maryland United has Vanderbilt.
Bethesda has Delaware.




Folks, this is ridiculous. I think maybe, just maybe, they are looking at players on an individual basis, not waving them in simply based on club affiliation? Give me a break. The reason people choose and get chosen has very little to do with specific club affiliation anymore than where I went to high school is more important than SATs and APs in getting into elite colleges. Don’t confuse causation and correlation. Otherwise I worry that a lot of you made or had pretty bad decisions to make for yourselves when you decided where to go to school.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 20:30     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).


There are mediocre D3 and there are Great D3. I rather see my DD play 100% then watch her ride the bench all through college.
Time to get Educated

D3
Johns Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Imagine a girl who is on one of the top teams in NOVA. Great soccer player, smart and wants to play freshman year through senior year.
Hey coach, she says. John Hopkins is offering an academic scholarship, what should I do?



And what is Lynchburg? Let's say I buy your argument for the sake of the discussion. Are you saying Lynchburg is a Johns Hopkins?



ODU
Redford
Longwood
VCU
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 12:23     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).


There are mediocre D3 and there are Great D3. I rather see my DD play 100% then watch her ride the bench all through college.
Time to get Educated

D3
Johns Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Imagine a girl who is on one of the top teams in NOVA. Great soccer player, smart and wants to play freshman year through senior year.
Hey coach, she says. John Hopkins is offering an academic scholarship, what should I do?



And what is Lynchburg? Let's say I buy your argument for the sake of the discussion. Are you saying Lynchburg is a Johns Hopkins?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 10:34     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).


There are mediocre D3 and there are Great D3. I rather see my DD play 100% then watch her ride the bench all through college.
Time to get Educated

D3
Johns Hopkins University
Amherst College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Emory University
University of California – Santa Cruz
Tufts University
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Chicago
New York University
Washington University in St. Louis

Imagine a girl who is on one of the top teams in NOVA. Great soccer player, smart and wants to play freshman year through senior year.
Hey coach, she says. John Hopkins is offering an academic scholarship, what should I do?

Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 10:14     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

No, for good players the goal is more than just getting into some mediocre D3 college. There are some schools any body with a pulse can get into regardless of soccer so who cares if a player gets an offer to a D3 check-if-they’re-breathing school because there’s no money involved and in many cases, the kid could have gone to a better school if they weren’t worried about playing soccer. Instead, for good players, the goal is to either get into a better school than they otherwise would have, or get money towards a school they want to go to (or ideally, both).

And you’re further missing the point of this discussion, which is which club is doing the best developing players as measured by offers, so it’s entirely relevant whether the offers are D1 or D3, and whether they’re good D1 programs (SC, Georgetown, WF) or not (Stetson).
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2019 08:47     Subject: What are the top 03 teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What club is leading in 03 girls commitment and boys commitments?


girls - 3 for McLean, 3 for FCV, 4 for Richmond



Are they all D1?


Who cares if they are d1 or not? It’s about the education. These are 3 great clubs.


If they are all D3 commitments, then it isn't leading in prime ECNL commitments. Players playing NPL still get D2.

We aren't talking academic scholarships. Hell, if a player doesn't want to play in college at all, that's fine. But when we are talking about leading in colleg commitments, the real question everyone is asking is D1 and which D1.


D3 soccer has proven to be better than D2. Most D1 soccer coaches look into D3 for transfers. There are many D1 soccer schools that can be beaten by D3 schools.


So then all those commitments are D3? Is that what you are saying?


D1, none of the commitments are D2 or D3. Most of not all of the 03 committed are D1.


Incorrect. Some of the Richmond United commitments are D3.


Not 03


03. It was on their Twitter. She's going to Lynchburg. It's D3 all day long.


What an a**hole. Sounds like an FCV parent


Sounds like somebody got owned and is lashing out.


Got owned? Sounds like someone was trying to say it’s college. Whole goal is for these kids to follow their dreams and get a degree in at the same time. Good for all the kids out their trying to make themselves into something more than a dead beat coach or parent who’s on this website lashing out about D1 vs D3.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2019 20:03     Subject: Re:What are the top 03 teams?

According to top drawer soccer for girls 03s
FCV Has one to U of Richmond and two to William and Mary.
Mclean has William and Mary, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Georgetown.
BRYC has Stetson, South Carolina, and Virginia Tech.
Pipeline has Loyola and South Carolina.
Maryland United has Vanderbilt.
Bethesda has Delaware.