Anonymous
10/16/2019 13:36
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?
It’s hard to move kids into CCES because of the CC-RHPS-NCC pairing. One of the parameters of this capacity study was not to mess with the pairing.
It's just a tweak around the edges. If you put all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin into Rosemary Hills/CCES, that would allow all of the apartments around Rosemary Hills to go to NCC instead of CCES.
Just based on my sense of where the kids are coming from, my guess would be that all of Kenwood moves to Westbrook and Friendship Heights is split between Westbrook and Somerset. There aren't a ton of kids coming to Somerset from Kenwood, but too many FH kids to move the entire group to one school or the other and keep it balanced. It seems like it could happen pretty quickly and easily, since Westbrook is undersubscribed and the distance to the Westbrook isn't much different than the distance to Somerset.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 13:31
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Ayrlawn is not technically off the list (the MCPS site) but without the park it is a very small site, maybe too small for a 740 seat ES, and everything new is being built to 740. No more small schools.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 13:29
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS has DROPPED their plan to build a new elementary school on a public county park site which includes the following parks: Fleming, Stratton, Ayrlawn, North Farm & Norwood!
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/MCPS-Drops-Plan-to-Build-Schools-on-Parkland_Washington-DC-563144052.html?akmobile=o?akmobile=o&appVideoHub=y&fbclid=IwAR345C1wr6oWesr1xZ2in6mMTCkKSUEa1fHnhyas_iB5sE5dXGN9cIh0tVY
*sorry if someone already posted this info.
I wondered about that. M-NCPPC doesn't just give up park land. Silver Creek MS at Rock Creek Hills Local Park was an exception because MCPS used to own it and had a right to take it back.
Didn’t there used to be an elementary school at Ayrlawn?
Yes. There is an MCPS site at Ayrlawn AND a M-NCPPC site at Ayrlawn right next to each other. But also the BCC Y is in the old school building at Ayrlawn and basically no one in the community wants the Y to have to move out.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 13:27
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS has DROPPED their plan to build a new elementary school on a public county park site which includes the following parks: Fleming, Stratton, Ayrlawn, North Farm & Norwood!
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/MCPS-Drops-Plan-to-Build-Schools-on-Parkland_Washington-DC-563144052.html?akmobile=o?akmobile=o&appVideoHub=y&fbclid=IwAR345C1wr6oWesr1xZ2in6mMTCkKSUEa1fHnhyas_iB5sE5dXGN9cIh0tVY
*sorry if someone already posted this info.
I wondered about that. M-NCPPC doesn't just give up park land. Silver Creek MS at Rock Creek Hills Local Park was an exception because MCPS used to own it and had a right to take it back.
Didn’t there used to be an elementary school at Ayrlawn?
Anonymous
10/16/2019 10:14
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I couldn't attend either, but a neighbor shared a link to the presentation:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/facilities/construction/project/BCC_WJ%20Capacity%20StudyPresent.pdf
That presentation has now been thrown out. The Park sites included as future school sites are not available for MCPS use. MCPS knew this. They have been called out about this and have now been forced to remove all of those options from the "study."
More wasted dollars.
MCPS is hardly the only county government agency that thinks M-NCPPC land ought to be land available for them to use.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 10:07
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:I couldn't attend either, but a neighbor shared a link to the presentation:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/facilities/construction/project/BCC_WJ%20Capacity%20StudyPresent.pdf
That presentation has now been thrown out. The Park sites included as future school sites are not available for MCPS use. MCPS knew this. They have been called out about this and have now been forced to remove all of those options from the "study."
More wasted dollars.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 10:03
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?
It’s hard to move kids into CCES because of the CC-RHPS-NCC pairing. One of the parameters of this capacity study was not to mess with the pairing.
It's just a tweak around the edges. If you put all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin into Rosemary Hills/CCES, that would allow all of the apartments around Rosemary Hills to go to NCC instead of CCES.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 08:02
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?
It’s hard to move kids into CCES because of the CC-RHPS-NCC pairing. One of the parameters of this capacity study was not to mess with the pairing.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 07:59
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?
I don't know about CCES, but keep your eyes open for a boundary study related to the Westbrook/Somerset changes coming soon.
If they're first going to build out Westbrook to 740, that will take years, and the boundary study would be 18 months before the scheduled opening.
At the meeting it seemed like the Westbrook/Somerset boundary change could go into effect fall 2020 or fall 2021. They are just building out a 3 classroom shell. But they don’t get the new CIP money until July 1 so unclear if they could do it in summer 2020 or if it would be summer 2021.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 07:15
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?
I don't know about CCES, but keep your eyes open for a boundary study related to the Westbrook/Somerset changes coming soon.
If they're first going to build out Westbrook to 740, that will take years, and the boundary study would be 18 months before the scheduled opening.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 07:04
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:MCPS has DROPPED their plan to build a new elementary school on a public county park site which includes the following parks: Fleming, Stratton, Ayrlawn, North Farm & Norwood!
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/MCPS-Drops-Plan-to-Build-Schools-on-Parkland_Washington-DC-563144052.html?akmobile=o?akmobile=o&appVideoHub=y&fbclid=IwAR345C1wr6oWesr1xZ2in6mMTCkKSUEa1fHnhyas_iB5sE5dXGN9cIh0tVY
*sorry if someone already posted this info.
I wondered about that. M-NCPPC doesn't just give up park land. Silver Creek MS at Rock Creek Hills Local Park was an exception because MCPS used to own it and had a right to take it back.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 07:03
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:MCPS has DROPPED their plan to build a new elementary school on a public county park site which includes the following parks: Fleming, Stratton, Ayrlawn, North Farm & Norwood!
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/MCPS-Drops-Plan-to-Build-Schools-on-Parkland_Washington-DC-563144052.html?akmobile=o?akmobile=o&appVideoHub=y&fbclid=IwAR345C1wr6oWesr1xZ2in6mMTCkKSUEa1fHnhyas_iB5sE5dXGN9cIh0tVY
*sorry if someone already posted this info.
That's a really misleading story. It makes it sound like MCPS already had firm plans in place to go ahead with schools on multiple park sites, and the reporter's questions got them to cancel them. In reality, it was just a consultant's report laying out multiple possibilities, and no sites had even been selected yet.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 02:32
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
MCPS has DROPPED their plan to build a new elementary school on a public county park site which includes the following parks: Fleming, Stratton, Ayrlawn, North Farm & Norwood!
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/MCPS-Drops-Plan-to-Build-Schools-on-Parkland_Washington-DC-563144052.html?akmobile=o?akmobile=o&appVideoHub=y&fbclid=IwAR345C1wr6oWesr1xZ2in6mMTCkKSUEa1fHnhyas_iB5sE5dXGN9cIh0tVY
*sorry if someone already posted this info.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/MCPS-Drops-Plan-to-Build-Schools-on-Parkland_Washington-DC-563144052.html?akmobile=o?akmobile=o&appVideoHub=y&fbclid=IwAR345C1wr6oWesr1xZ2in6mMTCkKSUEa1fHnhyas_iB5sE5dXGN9cIh0tVY
*sorry if someone already posted this info.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 22:49
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?
I don't know about CCES, but keep your eyes open for a boundary study related to the Westbrook/Somerset changes coming soon.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 21:27
Subject: B-CC/WJ capacity cluster meeting
Anonymous wrote:Tonight's meeting at Ashburton on this issue had approximately 200 people there. The consultant report identifying potential sites seemed to be a complete waste of time and money.
Bottom line - Rec to the Superintendent will be to put an addition on Westbrook to build it to the 740 student standard; rezone between Somerset and Westbrook; build another addition on Bethesda ES, and propose a new ES to serve overflow from both BCC and WJ clusters.
Honestly, I can't imagine the "Joint ES" situation working out very well, unless they redistribute a lot of kids like dominoes from Bethesda ES and throughout the whole WJ cluster.
How would Westbrook/Somerset be split? Would Kenwood and Friendship Heights be rezoned to Westbrook? I feel like all of Chevy Chase east of Wisconsin should go to Chevy Chase ES. Has this been discussed?