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Anonymous wrote:+2

Just like we believe Clinton or whoever should be punished for any Epstein shenanigans, any dem president should pay for his crimes.

Why is this so hard for repugs to grasp?

Yes. Probably Bush and Cheney for Iraq & al Qaeda too.

Stopping with the fake conspiracies that actually de-rail justice. Politicizing benghazi was exploited the deaths of Americans from a military failure not a criminal endeavor.

According to the boots on the ground, the rescuers themselves, Benghazi was an unsupported mission by American government, who allowed four men to die, including a US Ambassador. There would have been more casualties had our men not been rescued by LIBYAN FORCES. Then the Obama administration blamed it on a video and jailed the filmmaker, resulting in him becoming homeless.

But “What difference does it make”

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Anonymous wrote:This is about Trump's "real" tax returns and the difference with the ones he provided to lending institutions, that might show something different. It is a fraud of epic proportions and one that Michael Cohen and others have said Trump engaged in repeatedly.

Ding ding. This will be easy to prove once Vance gets his federal tax returns, his state, and the forms he filed with banks when applying for loans. NY state will have him in the most miserable prison they have to offer.

"Protracted criminal conduct"

This is a start. Maybe the feds will eventually get the courage to charge him with espionage.

"protracted criminal conduct" = NY state RICO

Up to 25 years in prison and a fine of double whatever was gained through the criminal enterprise. I wonder what Ivanka will wear for her perp walk?

We have to win the election or he’ll find a way to wiggle out of this somehow, too.

Of course given the speed of his dementia, he’s going to be slobbering in a chair in a year or so.

That's the beauty of it. State charges - he can't pardon, commute, etc.

Anonymous wrote:+2

Just like we believe Clinton or whoever should be punished for any Epstein shenanigans, any dem president should pay for his crimes.

Why is this so hard for repugs to grasp?

I agree. I'm for any president or politician going to prison for the longest possible time if they lie, cheat, steal, or subordinate our country to an enemy. No matter what party.

Does anyone happen to know if the Teapot Dome Scandel caused a generation of politicians to be more honest? Secretary of the Interior Albert Fall went to prison. I hope the current Cabinet suffers greatly for their collective failure to act in the interest of the public trust. Oh wait. There are only two O.G.s in the Trump Cabinet. Imagine that.

+2

Just like we believe Clinton or whoever should be punished for any Epstein shenanigans, any dem president should pay for his crimes.

Why is this so hard for repugs to grasp?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

As long as you're cool with reprisals for the next democratic president?

If the next President and members of his cabinet, families, and appointees commit crimes, then yes, they should be punished as well. It’s not reprisals, it’s justice.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

As long as you're cool with reprisals for the next democratic president?

We have to be cool with it. It happens with every POTUS. The other party does everything they can to destroy them. That's the game.

Actually there weren’t enough consequences for Nixon which is why we are in this mess.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

As long as you're cool with reprisals for the next democratic president?

We have to be cool with it. It happens with every POTUS. The other party does everything they can to destroy them. That's the game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

As long as you're cool with reprisals for the next democratic president?

If the next President and members of his cabinet, families, and appointees commit crimes, then yes, they should be punished as well. It’s not reprisals, it’s justice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

As long as you're cool with reprisals for the next democratic president?

NP. I would accept an agreement not to charge Trump with 25 years of RICO crimes in exchange for him divesting his entire business and retiring to a golf course in South Dakota or wherever. I'm not sure everyone would though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

As long as you're cool with reprisals for the next democratic president?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about Trump's "real" tax returns and the difference with the ones he provided to lending institutions, that might show something different. It is a fraud of epic proportions and one that Michael Cohen and others have said Trump engaged in repeatedly.

Ding ding. This will be easy to prove once Vance gets his federal tax returns, his state, and the forms he filed with banks when applying for loans. NY state will have him in the most miserable prison they have to offer.

"Protracted criminal conduct"

This is a start. Maybe the feds will eventually get the courage to charge him with espionage.

"protracted criminal conduct" = NY state RICO

Up to 25 years in prison and a fine of double whatever was gained through the criminal enterprise. I wonder what Ivanka will wear for her perp walk?

We have to win the election or he’ll find a way to wiggle out of this somehow, too.

Of course given the speed of his dementia, he’s going to be slobbering in a chair in a year or so.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about Trump's "real" tax returns and the difference with the ones he provided to lending institutions, that might show something different. It is a fraud of epic proportions and one that Michael Cohen and others have said Trump engaged in repeatedly.

Ding ding. This will be easy to prove once Vance gets his federal tax returns, his state, and the forms he filed with banks when applying for loans. NY state will have him in the most miserable prison they have to offer.

"Protracted criminal conduct"

This is a start. Maybe the feds will eventually get the courage to charge him with espionage.

"protracted criminal conduct" = NY state RICO

Up to 25 years in prison and a fine of double whatever was gained through the criminal enterprise. I wonder what Ivanka will wear for her perp walk?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.

Exactly. None of this, “we need to move on and heal”. There has to be a consequence. Not just for Trump, but for all complicit parties.

Anonymous wrote:Losing the election isn’t enough. He needs to be in jail.

He needs to be destroyed. Ruined. His adult criminal kids, too, or this will happen again.