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Anonymous wrote:Really ugly interiors. The wall paper, the seating, the rug...ugh!!!

It is very dated. But if they update, people will complain about the cost.

No. It is ugly regardless of when it was put there. The colors do not go together at all. I can absolutely understand very ornate looks as we see in many, many palaces around the world. THIS is just terrible taste.

Pp you quoted. You're right, lol.

I wonder who chose the decor? And why on Earth the photos were taken there?

It's the Green Drawing room of Windsor Castle. A salon where monarchs entertain monarchs but I'm sure the Queen will take your design choices under advisement.

+1 or maybe the previous poster thinks a few IKEA items would lighten things up a bit?!

Ha!

I like the way that each photographer has lined up the mirror within the mirror within the mirror in each photo.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Doria 100% AA?

Doris is 100% Black but likely an ADOS [American Descendant of Slaves], most ADOS with no recent history of immigrants in their families are at minimum 20-25% of European Descent. Thus, her marrying Thomas Märkle made it possibly for Meghan to look Southern European [at first glance] if you didn’t know her ancestry. Most biracial black people with a decent amount of European ancestry on their Black side can appear white.

Here are a few examples:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Francis_White

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Jealous

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/10/07/354310370/a-chosen-exile-black-people-passing-in-white-america

Um, having 20-25% European ancestry does not make one 100% black.

Yes, it does. Because black or AA is an ethnicity, not a race, and in American history, people who were descendents of both slaves and slave owners were only allowed to participate in the culture of their slave ancestors, and thus are 100% ethnically black or African American.

Sooooo, by your definition Kamila Harris isn't 'black or AA' since her mother is Indian and her from from Jamaica (and not descended from American/US slaves).

DP. I think people like Harris and Obama who might not technically fit PP’s definition in terms of ancestry, have been treated as AA their entire lives not Kenyan American or Jamaican American. I think a lot of black people live their lives this way and probably have their own code-switching or double consciousness as a result.

I love Harris. I have no doubts about her ability to govern regardless of her racial identity.

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Anonymous wrote:Really ugly interiors. The wall paper, the seating, the rug...ugh!!!

It is very dated. But if they update, people will complain about the cost.

No. It is ugly regardless of when it was put there. The colors do not go together at all. I can absolutely understand very ornate looks as we see in many, many palaces around the world. THIS is just terrible taste.

Pp you quoted. You're right, lol.

I wonder who chose the decor? And why on Earth the photos were taken there?

It's the Green Drawing room of Windsor Castle. A salon where monarchs entertain monarchs but I'm sure the Queen will take your design choices under advisement.

This is what a very great deal of very old money looks like. Would the PP who complained be happier if they threw in a few pieces from World Market and Homegoods?

Such a cute little baby!

I love how beautiful and poised Kate and Meghan are.

Happy to see Harry happy. He wears his heart on his sleeve for all to see. Diana was right - Harry got the girl and his HEA.

Really think that Diana did a great job with both the boys and they are good husbands and fathers.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Doria 100% AA?

Doris is 100% Black but likely an ADOS [American Descendant of Slaves], most ADOS with no recent history of immigrants in their families are at minimum 20-25% of European Descent. Thus, her marrying Thomas Märkle made it possibly for Meghan to look Southern European [at first glance] if you didn’t know her ancestry. Most biracial black people with a decent amount of European ancestry on their Black side can appear white.

Here are a few examples:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Francis_White

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Jealous

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/10/07/354310370/a-chosen-exile-black-people-passing-in-white-america

I don't know what you mean by "100%" if she is part European.

It means Doria is an identifiable visible Black woman. Though Doria likely has 20-25% European genes, for cultural and historical purposes she is Black. It times of slavery, the short lived Reconstruction era, and finally the Jim Crow era, ADOS (American Descendants of Slaves) were whatever race their maternal side indicated. The recent box of multi-racial/bi-racial is quite new [unless you were of Creole/Cajun descent].

I loved this University blog post about Beyonce’s Formation lyrics: The notion that Creoles represent a different racial group from “Negro” has been shaped by the history of southern Louisiana. Most people who identify as Creoles of color are descendants of gens de couleur libre (free people of color), a group with roots in French Louisiana. Gens de couleur libre often had white fathers and enslaved African mothers. Emancipated by their fathers, this mixed-race population formed a separate group in colonial Louisiana. They married one another and formed communities throughout the southern parishes. Some owned land; the wealthier ones even owned slaves. Gens de couleur libre considered themselves to be neither white nor black, but a combination of both races. Their descendants, who referred to themselves as Creoles of color after the Civil War, continued to stress their racial and cultural hybridity.


DH is Louisiana Creole (French/African), very dark, and far less likely to be identified as a multi-racial black person than I am (light skinned African/Irish/Cuban), but the family histories both include at least one black ancestor who was emancipated in the very early 1800s and established as a middle class landowner. One difference is that his ancestor did it as part of a community of peers and mine did it in isolation.

What an interesting family history on both sides. I hope someone is writing it all down for future generations to appreciate. I'm the oldest of three children and have found that I am much more aware of our family's history than either of my younger siblings.

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Anonymous wrote:Really ugly interiors. The wall paper, the seating, the rug...ugh!!!

It is very dated. But if they update, people will complain about the cost.

No. It is ugly regardless of when it was put there. The colors do not go together at all. I can absolutely understand very ornate looks as we see in many, many palaces around the world. THIS is just terrible taste.

Pp you quoted. You're right, lol.

I wonder who chose the decor? And why on Earth the photos were taken there?

It's the Green Drawing room of Windsor Castle. A salon where monarchs entertain monarchs but I'm sure the Queen will take your design choices under advisement.

+1 or maybe the previous poster thinks a few IKEA items would lighten things up a bit?!

I like the hat. It's classy and restrained and tasteful. Upper class English country sensibilities. You really think this woman, the daughter of an earl and aunt of a future king, is really going to care what some suburban American girl thinks of her hat and taste?

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Anonymous wrote:You could dress Kate in a paper bag and she’d still look lovely.

This. The dress is *supposed* to look like a throwback style. It's very fashionable. Sometimes I wonder if the PPs criticizing her very elegant way of dressing would prefer her to look like this:

It's very 1930s, which is a fashion era I have never liked.

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Anonymous wrote:Really ugly interiors. The wall paper, the seating, the rug...ugh!!!

It is very dated. But if they update, people will complain about the cost.

No. It is ugly regardless of when it was put there. The colors do not go together at all. I can absolutely understand very ornate looks as we see in many, many palaces around the world. THIS is just terrible taste.

Pp you quoted. You're right, lol.

I wonder who chose the decor? And why on Earth the photos were taken there?

It's the Green Drawing room of Windsor Castle. A salon where monarchs entertain monarchs but I'm sure the Queen will take your design choices under advisement.

The complaints are weird. You don't like it? Fine. But it's not ugly. It's a specific style (I think it's late regency) and no one is the sole arbitrator of what is ugly or not.

What did the OP want, cute pictures in a farmhouse? Or some sterile modern box? They're royals. This is a royal palace and as royal interiors go, this is right on target. There is an entire history spanning 500 years behind these interior decorating styles of European monarchies. And as royal interiors go, this isn't bad (I agree some of them were waaaaaaaaay over the top).

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Anonymous wrote:Is Doria 100% AA?

Doris is 100% Black but likely an ADOS [American Descendant of Slaves], most ADOS with no recent history of immigrants in their families are at minimum 20-25% of European Descent. Thus, her marrying Thomas Märkle made it possibly for Meghan to look Southern European [at first glance] if you didn’t know her ancestry. Most biracial black people with a decent amount of European ancestry on their Black side can appear white.

Here are a few examples:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Francis_White

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Jealous

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/10/07/354310370/a-chosen-exile-black-people-passing-in-white-america

Um, having 20-25% European ancestry does not make one 100% black.

Yes, it does. Because black or AA is an ethnicity, not a race, and in American history, people who were descendents of both slaves and slave owners were only allowed to participate in the culture of their slave ancestors, and thus are 100% ethnically black or African American.

Sooooo, by your definition Kamila Harris isn't 'black or AA' since her mother is Indian and her from from Jamaica (and not descended from American/US slaves).

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Anonymous wrote:Wills and Kate look thrilled...

They both seem to give a bare minimum smile for the pic. I don’t remember seeing with similar expressions in posed photos but who knows.

How can he not bother to crack a smile at his little
Brother’s sons christening? Rude!

Meh- Harry has the same grouchy look at Louis christening....

I guess they take a few photos, and choose the one where the baby has his eyes open and is looking forward, and maybe that means that it might not be the best one of some of the adults.

I agree with this; they probably picked a photo where Meghan and Harry looked good, too. So maybe the others look a bit stiff.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Wills and Kate look thrilled...

They both seem to give a bare minimum smile for the pic. I don’t remember seeing with similar expressions in posed photos but who knows.

How can he not bother to crack a smile at his little
Brother’s sons christening? Rude!

Meh- Harry has the same grouchy look at Louis christening....

I guess they take a few photos, and choose the one where the baby has his eyes open and is looking forward, and maybe that means that it might not be the best one of some of the adults.

I agree with this; they probably picked a photo where Meghan and Harry looked good, too. So maybe the others look a bit stiff.

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Anonymous wrote:Really ugly interiors. The wall paper, the seating, the rug...ugh!!!

It is very dated. But if they update, people will complain about the cost.

No. It is ugly regardless of when it was put there. The colors do not go together at all. I can absolutely understand very ornate looks as we see in many, many palaces around the world. THIS is just terrible taste.

Pp you quoted. You're right, lol.

I wonder who chose the decor? And why on Earth the photos were taken there?

It's the Green Drawing room of Windsor Castle. A salon where monarchs entertain monarchs but I'm sure the Queen will take your design choices under advisement.

The little one holding her bag is too cute. This photo looks heavily airbrushed.

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Anonymous wrote:Really ugly interiors. The wall paper, the seating, the rug...ugh!!!

It is very dated. But if they update, people will complain about the cost.

No. It is ugly regardless of when it was put there. The colors do not go together at all. I can absolutely understand very ornate looks as we see in many, many palaces around the world. THIS is just terrible taste.

Pp you quoted. You're right, lol.

I wonder who chose the decor? And why on Earth the photos were taken there?

It's the Green Drawing room of Windsor Castle. A salon where monarchs entertain monarchs but I'm sure the Queen will take your design choices under advisement.