Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 09:51     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In Brooklyb District 15; WXY was doing the job ““The District 15 work is unique in how it engaged the community around [school integration] in a way that hasn’t been done so intentionally,” says Christopher Rice, a senior urban planner at WXY. “If we’re going to try to engage people around school diversity, who needs to be at the table? How are we going to frame those conversations? Who is going to help us think through framing those conversations? To my knowledge, it hasn’t been done before.”

I wonder how much Broocklyn dis15 paid for WXY’s work.
Will WXY produce a recommendation and execute it?


$120,000

https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2017/10/23/new-york-city-inches-towards-a-diversity-plan-for-middle-schools-in-a-segregated-brooklyn-district/

The project scope was 12 middle schools.

MCPS has 40 middle schools, plus 134 elementary schools and 25 high schools.


Brooklyn di15 paid $120,000 for carrying out the whole process, from data evaluation to community outreach, and finally the implantation.
MCPS pays $500,000 for data evaluation only?


Well, let's see. What do you think costs more?

1. a project revising school choice for 12 middle schools,
2. a project analyzing the impact of current boundaries and potential boundary changes on student body demographics, facility use, transportation, the use of schools to offer nonprofit or after-school programs, articulation patterns and the pros and cons of cyclic boundary reviews, for 206 schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 09:48     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In Brooklyb District 15; WXY was doing the job ““The District 15 work is unique in how it engaged the community around [school integration] in a way that hasn’t been done so intentionally,” says Christopher Rice, a senior urban planner at WXY. “If we’re going to try to engage people around school diversity, who needs to be at the table? How are we going to frame those conversations? Who is going to help us think through framing those conversations? To my knowledge, it hasn’t been done before.”

I wonder how much Broocklyn dis15 paid for WXY’s work.
Will WXY produce a recommendation and execute it?


$120,000

https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2017/10/23/new-york-city-inches-towards-a-diversity-plan-for-middle-schools-in-a-segregated-brooklyn-district/

The project scope was 12 middle schools.

MCPS has 40 middle schools, plus 134 elementary schools and 25 high schools.


Brooklyn di15 paid $120,000 for carrying out the whole process, from data evaluation to community outreach, and finally the implantation.
MCPS pays $500,000 for data evaluation only?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 09:42     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:In Brooklyb District 15; WXY was doing the job ““The District 15 work is unique in how it engaged the community around [school integration] in a way that hasn’t been done so intentionally,” says Christopher Rice, a senior urban planner at WXY. “If we’re going to try to engage people around school diversity, who needs to be at the table? How are we going to frame those conversations? Who is going to help us think through framing those conversations? To my knowledge, it hasn’t been done before.”

I wonder how much Broocklyn dis15 paid for WXY’s work.
Will WXY produce a recommendation and execute it?


$120,000

https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2017/10/23/new-york-city-inches-towards-a-diversity-plan-for-middle-schools-in-a-segregated-brooklyn-district/

The project scope was 12 middle schools.

MCPS has 40 middle schools, plus 134 elementary schools and 25 high schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 09:34     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:In Brooklyb District 15; WXY was doing the job ““The District 15 work is unique in how it engaged the community around [school integration] in a way that hasn’t been done so intentionally,” says Christopher Rice, a senior urban planner at WXY. “If we’re going to try to engage people around school diversity, who needs to be at the table? How are we going to frame those conversations? Who is going to help us think through framing those conversations? To my knowledge, it hasn’t been done before.”

I wonder how much Broocklyn dis15 paid for WXY’s work.
Will WXY produce a recommendation and execute it?


They've been tasked with producing a report. The BOE will then have the option to execute any recommendations from that report.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 08:37     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
If there were an easy solution, it would have already been done. There is no easy, obvious solution. We shall see what comes of this.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 08:33     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
In Brooklyb District 15; WXY was doing the job ““The District 15 work is unique in how it engaged the community around [school integration] in a way that hasn’t been done so intentionally,” says Christopher Rice, a senior urban planner at WXY. “If we’re going to try to engage people around school diversity, who needs to be at the table? How are we going to frame those conversations? Who is going to help us think through framing those conversations? To my knowledge, it hasn’t been done before.”

I wonder how much Broocklyn dis15 paid for WXY’s work.
Will WXY produce a recommendation and execute it?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 08:22     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.


BoE: Let's hire consultants to look at the data.
DCUM: Data, who needs data? We already know the answer!


But that answer should not apply to my kids school..we do not have room for extra kids.

Neither do many others. It's a matter of a bit crowded vs severely over crowded. Yes, my kid's school is overcrowded, by a lot.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 08:20     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.


BoE: Let's hire consultants to look at the data.
DCUM: Data, who needs data? We already know the answer!


But that answer should not apply to my kids school..we do not have room for extra kids.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 06:40     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.


BoE: Let's hire consultants to look at the data.
DCUM: Data, who needs data? We already know the answer!
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 06:38     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:Did you actually read the article? The working group had 16 people on it. 16. That's Community engagement?


In my experience, any working group that has more than about 5 people on it doesn't actually work. And you want more than 16 people?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 06:32     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.


Have you considered transportation and overcrowding issues in your simple solution? FARMS families are unlikely to have extra time and resources to get their kids to "any school they want"
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2019 06:15     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Did you actually read the article? The working group had 16 people on it. 16. That's Community engagement?
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2019 21:53     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.


Does anyone know how Brooklyndistrict 15 provide transportation to its students? Do people live in rowhouses or apartment building?


They've relied on public transportation or walking. Part of the D15 plan is to pilot school buses for 6th graders who live over 1 mile from their schools and may have limited access to transit.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2019 21:31     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.


Does anyone know how Brooklyndistrict 15 provide transportation to its students? Do people live in rowhouses or apartment building?
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2019 21:17     Subject: RFP for county-wide boundary analysis
Anonymous wrote:https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/9/18076048/brooklyn-district-15-diversity-inclusion-plan-wxy


Sounds like they are using a lottery-based system for all middle schools where seats in every school are set aside for ELL and FARMS students. I suggested this on a thread awhile ago. We do not need to pay consultants. Let FARMS and ELL students go to any school they want. Instead of spending money on studies, commit to very low student:teacher ratios in high farms elementary schools. I guess it is easier to just fund a study, than actually try and higher more educators.