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Anonymous wrote:So it specifically says here that HARRY is the one that regards Archie as a private citizen and HARRY doesn't want to have public ceremonies but we're blaming Meghan. Got it.

Oh puhlease. Harry was never private before Meghan. Be smarter PP.

DP. Harry is entitled/allowed to make different choices for his son than those made by Prince Charles for his sons. Harry is allowed to have a different view of things now that he has his own child. Did you ever see the footage of William and Harry walking in Diana's funeral procession? I have no doubt he would make that choice for his DS.

I feel compelled to point out this misguided quote from the article:

“Many people don’t understand why they are paying nearly £3m for Harry and Meghan’s house, so in terms of public relations it would be a good quid pro quo for the pair to briefly show Archie off.”

I'm not even British and I understand that the $$ being used to renovate Frogmore Cottage does not come directly from British taxpayers. It's from the Sovereign Grant which is a percentage of the annual profits of the "Crown Estate" (properties own by the 'crown' and not the government or any individual monarch) which s intended to meet the costs of the sovereign's official expenditures. This includes the costs of the upkeep of the various royal residences, staffing, travel and state visits, public engagements, and official entertainment (thank you wikipedia).

This means that the queen gets to decide what to do with the money she gets from the 'crown' properties. These aren't taxpayer funds, these are the queen's funds and when the next king takes the throne, they'll be his funds. And, the renovations don't include furnishings (like curtains, beds, etc.) or upgrades to the kitchen, closets, floors, etc. Harry and Meghan have to pay for those personally. But, people thrive on alt-facts/misinformation and feel good when they get yet another opportunity to bash/blame Meghan.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/11/21/but-the-queen-is-paying-for-the-370-million-buckingham-palace-repairs-already/#7443f0b13214

Anonymous wrote:So it specifically says here that HARRY is the one that regards Archie as a private citizen and HARRY doesn't want to have public ceremonies but we're blaming Meghan. Got it.

Oh puhlease. Harry was never private before Meghan. Be smarter PP.

So it specifically says here that HARRY is the one that regards Archie as a private citizen and HARRY doesn't want to have public ceremonies but we're blaming Meghan. Got it.

Anonymous wrote:Lol why does Meghan have to be such a nutcase?

Why do you?

Lol why does Meghan have to be such a nutcase?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1147151/meghan-markle-prince-harry-baby-archie-christening-private-instagram-sussexroyal/amp

Yep! Pretty candid alright!

Anonymous wrote:I am a photographer and I actually like this photo. The size of the hand shows just how small the baby is, especially when you see his hand on his fathers finger. I have always been a huge fan of sepia tone, so I have no issue with it. Not everyone likes perfectly posed and thought out images. Documentary style photography is about shooting in the moment and not making everything so sterile and perfect. It’s real and as is.

I get "real." I like "real." But the fact that his middle finger is the most prominent item in the photo is laughable.

bottom line - There's candid, and there's CANDID.

So many misinformed posters on this thread who don't understand the high level behind the scenes work of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge for their charities. Gone are the days of judging royal "work" by the number of events (for example, ribbon cuttings or tree plantings). William and Kate are spending their time on high-quality, long-term projects with Heads Together and other charities.

I’m a totally DP, but why are you so steadfastly offended by the fact that people are *gasp* discussing things on a discussion board? Must everyone have the same opinion as you? You are strangely defensive about Kate, which is what other people are pointing out. She’s not your friend... she is a public figure.

I think Kate is lovely. Her hair is always perfectly bouncy, and she always seems in control. But, I agree she isn’t working up to the standards that should be expected of her role, and I also think she (and her parents) have had their eye on that role for her long before she met Wills.

I'm not offended at all. I'm fascinated that people like you are so invested in royals figures (which are in a whole 'nother class of celebrity). Not 'working up to the standards that should be expected of her role'? What the hell does that mean? Her role is whatever she and her family decides that is. Why are you so insistent that you should have any expectations in that regard? I'm serious. So what if she and/or her family of origin desired a match with a royal? Don't we all have dreams and desires? How is that different than anyone else identifying what traits they wanted in a life partner? Certainly, there are plenty of postings on DCUM about what people look for in a spouse. Kate certainly brought enough 'assets' to the relationship for William and it seems their relationship is mutually beneficial. Both sides got what they wanted. If you're going to be pissy, be pissy at William and his family for not meeting your expectations in his choice of a spouse and the role they chose for her.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they should do more than they're doing. Occasionally dropping by a community center for a photo op and trying to steal your brother's work with SHOUT UK (check the pictures -- only Meghan and Harry actually did walk-throughs and in-person meetings with SHOUT in Fall 2018 / Kate wasn't even in the video) is not enough.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion but, you should know, your opinion doesn't really matter. Seems the Queen and the POW is fine with Kate's level of engagement. For your own mental health, you should move on, maybe doing some of your own fundraising for mental health.

As this thread points out - a lot of us have opinions on this and *shocker* share the opinion that Kate is lazy. What are you -- on her staff? We can talk about it as much as we want.

^.^

I actually don’t think it’s a lot of you. It’s a handful of people (actually I suspect it’s 1 or 2) that just keep saying the same thing over and over and over again which is why this thread is as long and as bizarre as it is. But feel free to keep ranting - I guess you need an outlet to vent all your hate and for some bizarre reason you’ve decided to roost on a DC mommy site.

I'm not on Kate's staff and really have no opinion on the Royal Family. I just find it difficult not to point out when people are being irrational and making statements based on nothing more than opinion/gossip. So what if Kate is lazy? How does it impact you? How is it your business? The British people have chosen a constitutional monarchy as their form of government. If they weren't happy with having a Royal Family, they have means to abolish it and/or de-fund it. As long as Kate and Meghan are married to royals, they and their families determine how much/how little they do - and that has absolutely no impact on you or yours.

Sure glad I'll never be your DIL if you get so worked about someone who isn't even your relative.

I’m a totally DP, but why are you so steadfastly offended by the fact that people are *gasp* discussing things on a discussion board? Must everyone have the same opinion as you? You are strangely defensive about Kate, which is what other people are pointing out. She’s not your friend... she is a public figure.

I think Kate is lovely. Her hair is always perfectly bouncy, and she always seems in control. But, I agree she isn’t working up to the standards that should be expected of her role, and I also think she (and her parents) have had their eye on that role for her long before she met Wills.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they should do more than they're doing. Occasionally dropping by a community center for a photo op and trying to steal your brother's work with SHOUT UK (check the pictures -- only Meghan and Harry actually did walk-throughs and in-person meetings with SHOUT in Fall 2018 / Kate wasn't even in the video) is not enough.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion but, you should know, your opinion doesn't really matter. Seems the Queen and the POW is fine with Kate's level of engagement. For your own mental health, you should move on, maybe doing some of your own fundraising for mental health.

As this thread points out - a lot of us have opinions on this and *shocker* share the opinion that Kate is lazy. What are you -- on her staff? We can talk about it as much as we want.

^.^

I actually don’t think it’s a lot of you. It’s a handful of people (actually I suspect it’s 1 or 2) that just keep saying the same thing over and over and over again which is why this thread is as long and as bizarre as it is. But feel free to keep ranting - I guess you need an outlet to vent all your hate and for some bizarre reason you’ve decided to roost on a DC mommy site.

I'm not on Kate's staff and really have no opinion on the Royal Family. I just find it difficult not to point out when people are being irrational and making statements based on nothing more than opinion/gossip. So what if Kate is lazy? How does it impact you? How is it your business? The British people have chosen a constitutional monarchy as their form of government. If they weren't happy with having a Royal Family, they have means to abolish it and/or de-fund it. As long as Kate and Meghan are married to royals, they and their families determine how much/how little they do - and that has absolutely no impact on you or yours.

Sure glad I'll never be your DIL if you get so worked about someone who isn't even your relative.

I am a photographer and I actually like this photo. The size of the hand shows just how small the baby is, especially when you see his hand on his fathers finger. I have always been a huge fan of sepia tone, so I have no issue with it. Not everyone likes perfectly posed and thought out images. Documentary style photography is about shooting in the moment and not making everything so sterile and perfect. It’s real and as is.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing I find about Kate (and William's) focus on mental health and early childhood support -- one of the great fields were everything is 'immaterial'. There's no concrete data or facts to judge them by so they can skate by periodically releasing a statement or picture on the subject without any actual work done on the subject. I mean they could do something like raise $5M a year so that every child in Britain receives a book on their first birthday but they won't. That would take accountability.

Unlike say Camilla's focus on domestic violence where she finances actual shelters and 1,000s of ready kits for women who've suffered abuse or Charles's Prince's Trust which provides actual jobs to at-risk youth and has for decades, or Harry's focus on soldiers and the Invictus Games -- where he's brought together 38 countries and representative teams with wounded veterans.

Clear actions with tangible results matter.

so...they should do nothing about mental health? not support community centers that help young people? not help set up a phone call hotline? your logic is, um... not logical....

I think they should do more than they're doing. Occasionally dropping by a community center for a photo op and trying to steal your brother's work with SHOUT UK (check the pictures -- only Meghan and Harry actually did walk-throughs and in-person meetings with SHOUT in Fall 2018 / Kate wasn't even in the video) is not enough.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion but, you should know, your opinion doesn't really matter. Seems the Queen and the POW is fine with Kate's level of engagement. For your own mental health, you should move on, maybe doing some of your own fundraising for mental health.

As this thread points out - a lot of us have opinions on this and *shocker* share the opinion that Kate is lazy. What are you -- on her staff? We can talk about it as much as we want.

^.^

I actually don’t think it’s a lot of you. It’s a handful of people (actually I suspect it’s 1 or 2) that just keep saying the same thing over and over and over again which is why this thread is as long and as bizarre as it is. But feel free to keep ranting - I guess you need an outlet to vent all your hate and for some bizarre reason you’ve decided to roost on a DC mommy site.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing I find about Kate (and William's) focus on mental health and early childhood support -- one of the great fields were everything is 'immaterial'. There's no concrete data or facts to judge them by so they can skate by periodically releasing a statement or picture on the subject without any actual work done on the subject. I mean they could do something like raise $5M a year so that every child in Britain receives a book on their first birthday but they won't. That would take accountability.

Unlike say Camilla's focus on domestic violence where she finances actual shelters and 1,000s of ready kits for women who've suffered abuse or Charles's Prince's Trust which provides actual jobs to at-risk youth and has for decades, or Harry's focus on soldiers and the Invictus Games -- where he's brought together 38 countries and representative teams with wounded veterans.

Clear actions with tangible results matter.

so...they should do nothing about mental health? not support community centers that help young people? not help set up a phone call hotline? your logic is, um... not logical....

I think they should do more than they're doing. Occasionally dropping by a community center for a photo op and trying to steal your brother's work with SHOUT UK (check the pictures -- only Meghan and Harry actually did walk-throughs and in-person meetings with SHOUT in Fall 2018 / Kate wasn't even in the video) is not enough.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion but, you should know, your opinion doesn't really matter. Seems the Queen and the POW is fine with Kate's level of engagement. For your own mental health, you should move on, maybe doing some of your own fundraising for mental health.

As this thread points out - a lot of us have opinions on this and *shocker* share the opinion that Kate is lazy. What are you -- on her staff? We can talk about it as much as we want.

^.^

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing I find about Kate (and William's) focus on mental health and early childhood support -- one of the great fields were everything is 'immaterial'. There's no concrete data or facts to judge them by so they can skate by periodically releasing a statement or picture on the subject without any actual work done on the subject. I mean they could do something like raise $5M a year so that every child in Britain receives a book on their first birthday but they won't. That would take accountability.

Unlike say Camilla's focus on domestic violence where she finances actual shelters and 1,000s of ready kits for women who've suffered abuse or Charles's Prince's Trust which provides actual jobs to at-risk youth and has for decades, or Harry's focus on soldiers and the Invictus Games -- where he's brought together 38 countries and representative teams with wounded veterans.

Clear actions with tangible results matter.

so...they should do nothing about mental health? not support community centers that help young people? not help set up a phone call hotline? your logic is, um... not logical....

I think they should do more than they're doing. Occasionally dropping by a community center for a photo op and trying to steal your brother's work with SHOUT UK (check the pictures -- only Meghan and Harry actually did walk-throughs and in-person meetings with SHOUT in Fall 2018 / Kate wasn't even in the video) is not enough.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion but, you should know, your opinion doesn't really matter. Seems the Queen and the POW is fine with Kate's level of engagement. For your own mental health, you should move on, maybe doing some of your own fundraising for mental health.