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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the whole thread but I agree. We tried for years to have a third and it didn’t work and the friends I have that tell me how much harder they have it because there is impossible really frustrates me, especially when it is in the context of how much harder they have it than the people like me who have two kids.

Can you not admit that parents of 2 have a less demanding carpooling/sports/birthday party weekend schedule than families with 3 or 4 kids? That's all they're saying, pp. No need to project and take it personally.

Again, OWNING CHOICES AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES.

Do you all not hear yourselves and not see the hypocrisy? I am genuinely baffled.

x 1000 This exactly. Stop the whining it's not like life handed you a terminal or other cruel fate.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of everyone completely lacking empathy these days. It's like no one lets you complain or have a rough day without being a bitch about it.

Its because no one feels supported. Everyone is overworked and under-rested and just burnt out. Life is so full of just sucking it up that I can't stand listening to people who can't seem to just suck it up.

Everyone is not overworked and under-rested. They make their choices in life and its about priorities.

I know. That is my point. I made all of the choices in my life and I'm putting on my big girl panties and dealing with them. I just wish others would do the same. I don't want to hear about your man-baby husband or 3rd kid who is a runner.

x 1000

THIS!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread underscores why I tend to avoid talking to moms.

I'm not a snob. I'm not aloof. I'm not shy. I'm not introverted. Rather, I recognize that so many moms are judgmental jerks...who tend to project their own insecurities, unhappiness, jealousy, etc. on other women for the most bizarre reasons. Did everyone catch the weird reference to soccer and being committed? That's classic weirdo mommy behavior.

Signed,

Mother of 4 who will smile and briefly chat before quickly moving along

What on earth are you talking about? Shes saying the oldest kid wants to play on a soccer team that requires the kids to be more committed than when they were younger. The parents can never get it together to get him to all the practices etc (and always blame it on having 3). so he’s getting dropped. Not fair to him. Make sense to me.

Could not agree more with the posters who are saying own your choices.

Life happens...whether you have 1 or 3 or a dozen kids.

I hate the way dcum judges parents of 3 or more. It's weird. Most of us juggle things and manage just fine.

Lastly: "the defining soccer game"? It's a little kid game. Period. You sound ridiculous. Soccer parents are the worst.

The kid is 8 - if he wants to play, he needs to show up. I'm not a 'soccer parent' - I just don't make my kids suffer the consequences of my decisions and had the number of kids I could handle.

Not judging having that many kids - IF YOU CAN HANDLE IT.

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Anonymous wrote:I have three kids and have found the opposite...people are constantly questioning how I do it or referring to me as a saint (I’m not). It’s not that much more difficult than two kids (transition to one was actually the hardest). I don’t over schedule my kids, balance one-on-one time between my spouse, myself, and children, and realize certain days will suck the life out of me. Looking forward to holidays when they’re older and hopefully have their own families...focusing on raising good, strong people and realize that can’t happen if I paint myself as a martyr. I feel society sort of expects mom’s of 2+ to be exhausted all the time and to complain; my kids were all planned and I don’t need sympathy.

This is the key given 1-2 of them at any given time probably get ignored or the oldest parents the other ones. Saying you don't over schedule means they don't get to do activities they want to do and its really all about you.

Interestingly, I find parents of 1 or 2 kids are the ones bragging/pontificating about not overscheduling. I'm pretty sure it's a dig at me since my 4 kids play multiple sports or are on multiple teams at any given time. And these same parents are the ones who are constantly doing their own sport/hobby (golf/cycling/drinking/traveling).

And FTR, my oldest has never parented the younger siblings. The kids aren't ignored. Honestly, I've found that most parents with 3 or more kids love kids and prefer to be with their family nights and weekends as opposed to out on their own or with their friends doing their own hobby/sport/drinking.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have three kids and have found the opposite...people are constantly questioning how I do it or referring to me as a saint (I’m not). It’s not that much more difficult than two kids (transition to one was actually the hardest). I don’t over schedule my kids, balance one-on-one time between my spouse, myself, and children, and realize certain days will suck the life out of me. Looking forward to holidays when they’re older and hopefully have their own families...focusing on raising good, strong people and realize that can’t happen if I paint myself as a martyr. I feel society sort of expects mom’s of 2+ to be exhausted all the time and to complain; my kids were all planned and I don’t need sympathy.

This is the key given 1-2 of them at any given time probably get ignored or the oldest parents the other ones. Saying you don't over schedule means they don't get to do activities they want to do and its really all about you.

Interestingly, I find parents of 1 or 2 kids are the ones bragging/pontificating about not overscheduling. I'm pretty sure it's a dig at me since my 4 kids play multiple sports or are on multiple teams at any given time. And these same parents are the ones who are constantly doing their own sport/hobby (golf/cycling/drinking/traveling).

And FTR, my oldest has never parented the younger siblings. The kids aren't ignored. Honestly, I've found that most parents with 3 or more kids love kids and prefer to be with their family nights and weekends as opposed to out on their own or with their friends doing their own hobby/sport/drinking.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread underscores why I tend to avoid talking to moms.

I'm not a snob. I'm not aloof. I'm not shy. I'm not introverted. Rather, I recognize that so many moms are judgmental jerks...who tend to project their own insecurities, unhappiness, jealousy, etc. on other women for the most bizarre reasons. Did everyone catch the weird reference to soccer and being committed? That's classic weirdo mommy behavior.

Signed,

Mother of 4 who will smile and briefly chat before quickly moving along

What on earth are you talking about? Shes saying the oldest kid wants to play on a soccer team that requires the kids to be more committed than when they were younger. The parents can never get it together to get him to all the practices etc (and always blame it on having 3). so he’s getting dropped. Not fair to him. Make sense to me.

Could not agree more with the posters who are saying own your choices.

Life happens...whether you have 1 or 3 or a dozen kids.

I hate the way dcum judges parents of 3 or more. It's weird. Most of us juggle things and manage just fine.

Lastly: "the defining soccer game"? It's a little kid game. Period. You sound ridiculous. Soccer parents are the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have three kids and have found the opposite...people are constantly questioning how I do it or referring to me as a saint (I’m not). It’s not that much more difficult than two kids (transition to one was actually the hardest). I don’t over schedule my kids, balance one-on-one time between my spouse, myself, and children, and realize certain days will suck the life out of me. Looking forward to holidays when they’re older and hopefully have their own families...focusing on raising good, strong people and realize that can’t happen if I paint myself as a martyr. I feel society sort of expects mom’s of 2+ to be exhausted all the time and to complain; my kids were all planned and I don’t need sympathy.

This is the key given 1-2 of them at any given time probably get ignored or the oldest parents the other ones. Saying you don't over schedule means they don't get to do activities they want to do and its really all about you.

Interestingly, I find parents of 1 or 2 kids are the ones bragging/pontificating about not overscheduling. I'm pretty sure it's a dig at me since my 4 kids play multiple sports or are on multiple teams at any given time. And these same parents are the ones who are constantly doing their own sport/hobby (golf/cycling/drinking/traveling).

And FTR, my oldest has never parented the younger siblings. The kids aren't ignored. Honestly, I've found that most parents with 3 or more kids love kids and prefer to be with their family nights and weekends as opposed to out on their own or with their friends doing their own hobby/sport/drinking.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of everyone completely lacking empathy these days. It's like no one lets you complain or have a rough day without being a bitch about it.

Its because no one feels supported. Everyone is overworked and under-rested and just burnt out. Life is so full of just sucking it up that I can't stand listening to people who can't seem to just suck it up.

Everyone is not overworked and under-rested. They make their choices in life and its about priorities.

I know. That is my point. I made all of the choices in my life and I'm putting on my big girl panties and dealing with them. I just wish others would do the same. I don't want to hear about your man-baby husband or 3rd kid who is a runner.

x 1000

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Anonymous wrote:I’m more tired of working parents complaining.

You think that's a choice for most?

It was your choice to have children, so stop your damn whining. I do not care if one of your kids was sick and kept you up all night. Also, I do not care if your kid is another Sheldon Cooper. Just shut up and do your work you were hired to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the whole thread but I agree. We tried for years to have a third and it didn’t work and the friends I have that tell me how much harder they have it because there is impossible really frustrates me, especially when it is in the context of how much harder they have it than the people like me who have two kids.

Can you not admit that parents of 2 have a less demanding carpooling/sports/birthday party weekend schedule than families with 3 or 4 kids? That's all they're saying, pp. No need to project and take it personally.

Again, OWNING CHOICES AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES.

Do you all not hear yourselves and not see the hypocrisy? I am genuinely baffled.

Anonymous wrote:This thread underscores why I tend to avoid talking to moms.

I'm not a snob. I'm not aloof. I'm not shy. I'm not introverted. Rather, I recognize that so many moms are judgmental jerks...who tend to project their own insecurities, unhappiness, jealousy, etc. on other women for the most bizarre reasons. Did everyone catch the weird reference to soccer and being committed? That's classic weirdo mommy behavior.

Signed,

Mother of 4 who will smile and briefly chat before quickly moving along

What on earth are you talking about? Shes saying the oldest kid wants to play on a soccer team that requires the kids to be more committed than when they were younger. The parents can never get it together to get him to all the practices etc (and always blame it on having 3). so he’s getting dropped. Not fair to him. Make sense to me.

Could not agree more with the posters who are saying own your choices.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of everyone completely lacking empathy these days. It's like no one lets you complain or have a rough day without being a bitch about it.

Its because no one feels supported. Everyone is overworked and under-rested and just burnt out. Life is so full of just sucking it up that I can't stand listening to people who can't seem to just suck it up.

Everyone is not overworked and under-rested. They make their choices in life and its about priorities.

I know. That is my point. I made all of the choices in my life and I'm putting on my big girl panties and dealing with them. I just wish others would do the same. I don't want to hear about your man-baby husband or 3rd kid who is a runner.

THABK YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m more tired of working parents complaining.

You think that's a choice for most?

X1000 get real.

New poster here.
Around here, yes.

Head over to the real estate board where people think it's gross for a family of 4 to live in a house less than 7,000 sqf. Or the travel board where you're one of "the poors" if you're not taking an Alaskan cruise, going on safari, and skiiing in Switzerland in the same year. I guess if all that kind of stuff is "essential" than you don't have a choice to not have two working parents. But if you're family of 4 can handle living in a 4,000 sqf home, and maybe only taking 2 vacations a year, they could probably choose not to both work.

The people who complain about having thee kids are the ones who never should’ve had three kids. I know a woman with 5 and you would think it’s the easiest thing in the world. Then you have women who SAH and still have house keepers and use grocery services and babysitters and then have a third kid when the older two are 7 and 5 so they can justify never going back to work. They are the ones who paint themselves into an corner and then whine about how hard life is.

The rest of us you never hear from because we are just doing the damn thing- getting up, getting people where they need to be, going to work, coming home and doing it all again. The competent people don’t speak up about being competent so you just hear from the women with too little to do and too few life skills whining about how hard this exact life they designed is for them.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m more tired of working parents complaining.

You think that's a choice for most?

X1000 get real.