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Anonymous wrote:I only sent my kids to private because they have a learning disability. The number make sense to me.

This is an important point. Some parents are clearly gaming the system but the other side of the coin is that UMC and better parents push the schools to test for and/or can afford testing that uncovers specific learning disabilities and then pursue supports like extra time. So you’re going to see some measure of greater diagnosis in wealthier areas.

The article actually points out that wealthy parents will go buy a diagnosis if the private school does not help. And donations matter to private schools. What do you think a private school would do for a $$ donor?

You make no sense. You cannot buy a diagnosis. There may be corrupt psychologists here and there but in all my years of dealing with testing and parents of children with disabilities for almost 2 decades, I've never heard of a psychologist who will sell a diagnosis. I've never heard a whisper of it. The tests are thorough and exhausting for the student. Private schools don't provide the diagnosis. The private school may be supportive of students with disabilities vs what most of the parents and students in public schools have to deal with.

Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.

In real life you don't get extra time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only sent my kids to private because they have a learning disability. The number make sense to me.

This is an important point. Some parents are clearly gaming the system but the other side of the coin is that UMC and better parents push the schools to test for and/or can afford testing that uncovers specific learning disabilities and then pursue supports like extra time. So you’re going to see some measure of greater diagnosis in wealthier areas.

The article actually points out that wealthy parents will go buy a diagnosis if the private school does not help. And donations matter to private schools. What do you think a private school would do for a $$ donor?

You make no sense. You cannot buy a diagnosis. There may be corrupt psychologists here and there but in all my years of dealing with testing and parents of children with disabilities for almost 2 decades, I've never heard of a psychologist who will sell a diagnosis. I've never heard a whisper of it. The tests are thorough and exhausting for the student. Private schools don't provide the diagnosis. The private school may be supportive of students with disabilities vs what most of the parents and students in public schools have to deal with.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only sent my kids to private because they have a learning disability. The number make sense to me.

This is an important point. Some parents are clearly gaming the system but the other side of the coin is that UMC and better parents push the schools to test for and/or can afford testing that uncovers specific learning disabilities and then pursue supports like extra time. So you’re going to see some measure of greater diagnosis in wealthier areas.

The article actually points out that wealthy parents will go buy a diagnosis if the private school does not help. And donations matter to private schools. What do you think a private school would do for a $$ donor?

You make no sense. You cannot buy a diagnosis. There may be corrupt psychologists here and there but in all my years of dealing with testing and parents of children with disabilities for almost 2 decades, I've never heard of a psychologist who will sell a diagnosis. I've never heard a whisper of it. The tests are thorough and exhausting for the student. Private schools don't provide the diagnosis. The private school may be supportive of students with disabilities vs what most of the parents and students in public schools have to deal with.

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Anonymous wrote:The solution is to not give extra time period to any student.

Have students with challenges, write an essay how they are challenged and have schools conduct in-person interviews/assessments to verify the challenges and then they can take that into account when factoring in test scores.

But this processes should happen after the test is taken in normal conditions.

Do we lower the hoop in the nba to accommodate people who are vertically challenged?

This has to be the most stupid suggestion I've ever seen regarding the issue. You have no clue about children with learning disabilities. You aren't intelligent enough to realize how ridiculous your comparison of short nba players to students with learning disabilities is.

But your student with an LD doesn’t need to get an artificially high score on a timed test via extra time to prove their abilities then. That’s just wrong.

What should be done is the student should have to take the test TIMED and then they can take the test with accommodations and then both scores should be submitted. That would paint an accurate picture and it would be fair to everyone.

An additional issue in Big Law or other work environments where time is billed by the hour is this. If Suzy Speedy and Lennie LD look exactly the same on their transcripts, they will probably be hired at similar salaries and similar hourly billing rates. But if Lennie needs to work 1.5 times longer to do the project, the clients lucky enough to have Lennie assigned to their projects will end up paying 50% more for his work product than if Suzy had done it. Not fair to the client, not fair to the firm.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only sent my kids to private because they have a learning disability. The number make sense to me.

This is an important point. Some parents are clearly gaming the system but the other side of the coin is that UMC and better parents push the schools to test for and/or can afford testing that uncovers specific learning disabilities and then pursue supports like extra time. So you’re going to see some measure of greater diagnosis in wealthier areas.

The article actually points out that wealthy parents will go buy a diagnosis if the private school does not help. And donations matter to private schools. What do you think a private school would do for a $$ donor?

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Anonymous wrote:If 1 in 3 in a public high school has accomodations, then the 2 without accomodations are at a disadvantage. Extra time helps in tests, quizzes that impact grades. So to the naysayers, you are just in denial about extra time not helping get higher score. Get rid of extra time or indicate on transcript/score or give everyone the same extra time. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

This is false information. 1 in 3 DO NOT HAVE accommodations in public high school.


There are some some schools that are known as being more accepting of students with disabilities. Those schools, private or public, will have parents of sn kids doing whatever they can to get into them. The parents aren't looking for an "edge" or to cheat. They are trying to find a school that will educate their child. The school teachers who are more qualified to deal with disabilities. I would move if I had to to make sure no one was able to make my kid hate school or hate learning.

Anonymous wrote:If 1 in 3 in a public high school has accomodations, then the 2 without accomodations are at a disadvantage. Extra time helps in tests, quizzes that impact grades. So to the naysayers, you are just in denial about extra time not helping get higher score. Get rid of extra time or indicate on transcript/score or give everyone the same extra time. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s start a petition. No time limit. Hand in. You’re done. Speed is not an indicator of academic success. So it’s a worthless metric. And they don’t even take not of what time a student hands in the test anyway.

+1. But then someone would need to write a test where speed wasn't a significant differentiator at the top end of the scale.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s start a petition. No time limit. Hand in. You’re done. Speed is not an indicator of academic success. So it’s a worthless metric. And they don’t even take not of what time a student hands in the test anyway.