Anonymous
05/29/2019 10:14
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.
If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.
Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?
Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?
There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?
That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:57
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.
If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.
Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?
Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?
There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:34
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Number 1 thing college coaches look for is a DA patch.
Number one thing college coaches look for are kids who good enough to be a starter on a youth soccer team.
They look for good players that fit their program.
Well, if you can’t start on a youth soccer team they are looking for players who are actually playing that fit their program.
Agreed. And that’s hard to judge when given player spends most of her time getting acquainted with the cold, hard aluminum beneath her derrière
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:19
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Should I be trembling? You sound tough. Not all DA teams are at the same level and the same for ECNL. Go ahead tough guy, bury us. I am going to sit on the toilet with my laptop anticipating so when your shout down comes, I won't pee in my pants.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:08
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Number 1 thing college coaches look for is a DA patch.
Number one thing college coaches look for are kids who good enough to be a starter on a youth soccer team.
They look for good players that fit their program.
Well, if you can’t start on a youth soccer team they are looking for players who are actually playing that fit their program.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:04
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.
If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.
Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:01
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Number 1 thing college coaches look for is a DA patch.
Number one thing college coaches look for are kids who good enough to be a starter on a youth soccer team.
They look for good players that fit their program.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:01
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Number 1 thing college coaches look for is a DA patch.
MU one to be specific...or should I say STJMU-Fairfax.
There, you have your consolidation.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 09:01
Subject: FCV DA
Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.
If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.
If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 08:57
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Number 1 thing college coaches look for is a DA patch.
Number one thing college coaches look for are kids who good enough to be a starter on a youth soccer team.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 08:55
Subject: FCV DA
U17 or below elsewhere
Anonymous
05/29/2019 08:54
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
No, the argument is that no subs will play D1 soccer. It’s _possible_ that a sub at u18/19 might play D1, but that’s also unlikely.
If you are a sub at u17 or elsewhere and have a starting offer elsewhere, no matter when in the cycle, it should be seriously considered. There’s no substitute for starting, playing time, and exposure to scouting. Unless you like subsidizing the starters. Then, by all means continue to warm that bench!
Anonymous
05/29/2019 08:54
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Number 1 thing college coaches look for is a DA patch.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 08:49
Subject: FCV DA
The poster is a out of touch DA recruiter/parent with no grasp on reality. Probabley MU who are desperately trying to grab McLean and Bryc kids.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
You literally just said that a DA sub will play D1 over a ECNL sub for the simple fact that they play DA. .l
Horrible recruting pitch. Go sit down somewhere before I bury you with examples.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 08:39
Subject: FCV DA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Above analysis is severely flawed, especially the last paragraph. Please post discrete examples of non-starters playing D1 soccer and explain how that would change for u15 or below.
Examples of non starters from local area DAs playing D1, to clarify.
U15 and younger are not committing at this point and now will not until junior year of high school (more than a year from today). The information we do have is what was linked. You can dismiss it, ignore it, spin it, whatever you want to it. It doesn't change the fact that it is true. What is not a FACT is that non-starters on top level GDA teams are not committing to D1 schools. Our area has done a very poor job concentrating talent. We have 10 local teams in the DA/ECNL. That is too many and yet we have people on here telling us how Loudoun ECNL will now become a game changer. The only thing Loudoun adding ECNL is going to do is water down the ECNL some more purely because of the number of teams. More consolidation is needed and it may have to happen involuntarily. The best thing that could happen is that the 4 local GDA become 3 and the 6 local ECNL reduce to 3 as well (by combining with each other or with a GDA club). 6 "elite" options are plenty for our area and would truly be competitive with other parts of the country in both college commits and game play.
Fat chance any of this happens there is too much money to be made the way it is now with parents willing to pay obscene amounts of money for, in most cases, non-equivalent value.
This is an interesting idea. What mergers need to happen here?
Making things up just by geography here and egos aside, 5 super clubs could have both GDA and ECNL. Everyone changes their name for the GDA and ECNL level so there is no squabbling over what they are called and the levels below ECNL remain under current name. BA swallows Celtic and covers greater Baltimore (north, south, east and west). STJFCV, Arlington, McLean and BYRC combine. VDA, Loudoun and Metro United. Bethesda and Maryland United combine and capture everything in between. Richmond consolidates and has both GDA and ECNL.