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1. I have had countless interactions with Democrats who feel that since they want to help people and support positions they feel will help people, they conclude that anyone who disagrees with their position is doing so because they hate the population in question. While I can't speak for others, I can say that my political opinions are in no way shaped by hatred. I either think there are better ways to help the population in question and/or think that other groups needs should be considered as well. Rather than condemning me for being cruel, please be willing to listen to my viewpoint.

2. I worry about the tendency towards extremism in both parties. Long before Trump, when I studied history I formed the opinion that politics seemed more like a loop than a linear spectrum. On the far right you had fascism. On the far left you had a Communist Dictatorship. Either way led to Totalitarianism.

I am a moderate and I have never met a Democrat who actually believes that people who disagree with their position "hates" the population in question. I guess that's an anecdote that conflicts with your anecdote.

It is extremely disingenuous to claim that the Democratic move to the left is a tendency towards "extremism." Which positions do you believe are so extreme?


I have noticed (my own anecdote) that Republicans like to talk about how mean Democrats are and make vague allusions to "extremism" without discussing actual policies. Hmm. I wonder why that is.

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Anonymous wrote:You liberals worship the state. That’s why you are so dangerous . The control over lives is literally a fetish for them. They get you know gratification from micromanaging lives and control

It's better than worshiping a corrupt, stupid, liar and holding on to the good ol' days of America when minorities were treated like crap and women couldn't get high paying jobs.

Anonymous wrote:You liberals worship the state. That’s why you are so dangerous . The control over lives is literally a fetish for them. They get you know gratification from micromanaging lives and control

Anonymous wrote:You liberals worship the state. That’s why you are so dangerous . The control over lives is literally a fetish for them. They get you know gratification from micromanaging lives and control

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Anonymous wrote:@:8:35 - I agree with some of what you said. I'm a former R, now Independent. I re-registered as a R during the primary to vote for someone other than Trump. Will do so again in 2020.

I also agree about extremist politics being a circle - with the far right and far left not being all that different from each other.

My spouse is a liberal, and we have friends of both persuasion, but Trump really is another story. None of our closer friends who are R like Trump. There is a visceral hatred of Trump in our circle of R and D and Independent.

odd how trump could win despite all the haters in his party unlike McCain and Romney

Anonymous wrote:I’d admit to being a serial killer before admitting to be a republican let alone a trump supporter in this area. I hate my life living under democrat domination

Anonymous wrote:@:8:35 - I agree with some of what you said. I'm a former R, now Independent. I re-registered as a R during the primary to vote for someone other than Trump. Will do so again in 2020.

I also agree about extremist politics being a circle - with the far right and far left not being all that different from each other.

My spouse is a liberal, and we have friends of both persuasion, but Trump really is another story. None of our closer friends who are R like Trump. There is a visceral hatred of Trump in our circle of R and D and Independent.

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1. I have had countless interactions with Democrats who feel that since they want to help people and support positions they feel will help people, they conclude that anyone who disagrees with their position is doing so because they hate the population in question. While I can't speak for others, I can say that my political opinions are in no way shaped by hatred. I either think there are better ways to help the population in question and/or think that other groups needs should be considered as well. Rather than condemning me for being cruel, please be willing to listen to my viewpoint.

2. I worry about the tendency towards extremism in both parties. Long before Trump, when I studied history I formed the opinion that politics seemed more like a loop than a linear spectrum. On the far right you had fascism. On the far left you had a Communist Dictatorship. Either way led to Totalitarianism.

I am a moderate and I have never met a Democrat who actually believes that people who disagree with their position "hates" the population in question. I guess that's an anecdote that conflicts with your anecdote.

It is extremely disingenuous to claim that the Democratic move to the left is a tendency towards "extremism." Which positions do you believe are so extreme?


I have noticed (my own anecdote) that Republicans like to talk about how mean Democrats are and make vague allusions to "extremism" without discussing actual policies. Hmm. I wonder why that is.

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All this means is that you are too ignorant to understand what impacts you. Do you buy health insurance? Own a 401k? Drive on roads and bridges? Take the metro? Breathe the air? Pay taxes? Sorry, politics is important because policies have a direct impact on people's lives.

My parents are from a country that has collapsed economically, politically, and socially. These things work together hand in hand. It didn't happen in one year or even 20 or even 50. In fact, Trump has expressed great admiration for the leader of said country (try to guess!). As a somewhat educated observer, I have seen over the course of my lifetime the increasing similarities and parallels between that country and the U.S. And the casual ignorance and disinterest in the corruption of leaders is definitely a part of it.

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1. I have had countless interactions with Democrats who feel that since they want to help people and support positions they feel will help people, they conclude that anyone who disagrees with their position is doing so because they hate the population in question. While I can't speak for others, I can say that my political opinions are in no way shaped by hatred. I either think there are better ways to help the population in question and/or think that other groups needs should be considered as well. Rather than condemning me for being cruel, please be willing to listen to my viewpoint.

2. I worry about the tendency towards extremism in both parties. Long before Trump, when I studied history I formed the opinion that politics seemed more like a loop than a linear spectrum. On the far right you had fascism. On the far left you had a Communist Dictatorship. Either way led to Totalitarianism.

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Anonymous wrote:How Democrats react if you admit you are a Trump supporter:

If I know you’re a trump supporter, I’d do a slow fade and stop socializing with you. That’s it. No finger pointing, no tirade. What’s the point? I’m not going to change your mind. But I now know that you view the world very differently than I do, and you are not someone I would want to be friends with because our fundamental values are too different.

This, from a member of a party that proudly proclaims their "tolerance."
Truth is - you are not tolerant and never have been.
I would never do a "slow fade" to someone I know and socialize with due to the voting choices that person makes.
I am a conservative. Some of my best friends are liberals. We have different views on how to make our country great - but the end goal is the same, in reality.
Gain some perspective, friend.

This has nothing to do with tolerance. I literally see the world differently than you. As with anything else, I choose friends who have similar interests, whether politics or anything else.

From your post, it seems that you were able to find similar interests BEFORE you discovered this person's voting preferences. The bolded parts of your posts are the indicators.

Ok, let me be more specific and spell it out for you. For example, if I am friendly with you because our kids go to the same school and are friends, I will continue to be polite, but will not make an effort to socialize with you outside of school events. Maybe initially, I thought you were nice and seemed like someone I might want to hang out with, so I invited you (and your family) to a bbq, or to get drinks one evening, or whatever. If I find out that you are a trump supporter, I would realize that we just have vastly different views on right and wrong, and how other human beings should be treated, that I couldn’t be friends with you. Doesn’t mean I won’t continue to be pleasant during superficial interactions.

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There are a few openly Trump-supporting families in our school. We will socialize superficially. Our kids will sometimes play together. I am very polite. But these are not friendships I will foster because deep down we just don't have the same core values.

Oh, I’m not polite. If any Trump supporter has the nerve to tell me they support this criminal president, I tell them in no uncertain terms that anyone who chooses hate and corruption is absolutely not someone I have any interest in speaking to. They can roll in their sewer of Fox and rightwing lies on Facebook without me.
If they change their mind and repudiate the GOP, I would love to welcome them back. But I will not let anyone get away with supporting the lies, corruption, and damage to America that this president and his party are doing. Goodbye and good riddance. Trump supporters are not welcome in my life — and they shouldn’t be welcome in the lives of anyone that cares about this country.

Republicans in DC are also educated. Support for Trump is probably byissue, and that most Rs would not vote for Hilary (or simply abstain). As to corrupt - have you turned your back on all the corrupt Democrat pols - especially all the pay to play? Let's start with your efforts to oust Bpwser.

You are hopeless. There is a big difference between local politics and having a president rapidly and rather stupidly dismantle the norms on which we depend on for a stable and democratic society. How would you have felt if Obama did the things he did? And it is going to happen that someone worse will come. Think of it this way: he is lowering the bar and setting the stage for the next corrupt, money-grubbing, wanna-be dictator. That person may be a Democrat or a Republican, but what if it's even worse than that? What if it's someone well-spoken and charismatic and polls higher than 40%?

Not one single thing done by Bush, Obama, or Trump has directly impacted my life meaningfully one iota. So forgive me if I avoid all the headache of thinking, talking, and dwelling on what guy is in the white house. Following along and being informed of things doesnt mean you have any control over them. But people around here like to feel in control. Relax, stuff always works out. You'll live longer.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is manly but secure enough to support a woman for president, unlike some other men...

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and nothing is wrong with voting for someone becatse they are a woman right ? They must check s box for you

DP There are a ton of people vote for men because they are men. Is that ok and voting for a woman is one of the reasons. There have been 45 male presidents. When do women get a chance?

There's been dozens of women Presidents/ PMs all around the world.

The difference is that they don't play dumb/ sexist identity politics.