Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:51     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.


So what if it is? The angst of actual redshirters is economic as well? They want to advantage their own children by giving them an extra year

Shrug. They advantage their kids in many ways. Private tutors, private lessons, elite camps, pricey extracurriculars. That's why people want to be rich... So they can afford what money can buy.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:51     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:Best countries don't even begin to teach reading until 7. Holding back preschoolers is a GOOD practice under today's high pressure environment.


+1

Why the rush?

I don't GAF if my kids are the oldest or youngest. I wanted them to wait for school until it was more age-appropriate. Sounds corny, but it really is the gift of time.

The only people who are comparing ages or worried about "the competition" are the hysterical anti-redshirters. MYOB, ignorant twits.

Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:50     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.


So what if it is? The angst of actual redshirters is economic as well? They want to advantage their own children by giving them an extra year
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:50     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.


Why do you care that they care? Are you insecure about your choices?

Hmm, I guess I was caught up on reading a long thread and offered an observation. As for feeling insecure... I don't think so. I have not redshirted my kids because they were born in the middle of the year. It is interesting to see your hostility.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:49     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.


Of course, and rightfully so. This is often what people mean when they say redshirting is an "unfair advantage".

I wish you had to somehow prove that redshirted was needed - an entry test that your kid fails or something like that, to prevent those who just want their kid to be a "leader" (not natural born, but forcefully created, perhaps at the disadvantage of others).
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:49     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Never change, anti-redshirters. Never change.


I am not categorically anti-redshirting. My nephew, with a September baby, was redshirted based on a diagnosed developmental delay and it was the right choice for him. But when little Blake Jones III is red-shirted in hopes that he excels at lacrosse, I'm going to judge his parents for it.



Same. And I also am going to roll my eyes when those same parents complain about how "the standards for K have changed, it's basically 1st now!" Yes... because your kid should be in 1st, and you probably complained to his teacher that he wasn't challenged enough...


Anti-redshirt posters are such great people. Only the best.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:48     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.


Why do you care that they care? Are you insecure about your choices?


I didn’t mean to be flip but usually that’s why there’s fighting on both sides.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:47     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.


Why do you care that they care? Are you insecure about your choices?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:44     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

I wonder if some of the angst of the anti redshirters is economic. Academic redshirting is done by those who can afford it if they see the need. People who can't afford another year of childcare may feel bitter about this.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:42     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Never change, anti-redshirters. Never change.


I am not categorically anti-redshirting. My nephew, with a September baby, was redshirted based on a diagnosed developmental delay and it was the right choice for him. But when little Blake Jones III is red-shirted in hopes that he excels at lacrosse, I'm going to judge his parents for it.



Same. And I also am going to roll my eyes when those same parents complain about how "the standards for K have changed, it's basically 1st now!" Yes... because your kid should be in 1st, and you probably complained to his teacher that he wasn't challenged enough...
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:34     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:Never change, anti-redshirters. Never change.


I am not categorically anti-redshirting. My nephew, with a September baby, was redshirted based on a diagnosed developmental delay and it was the right choice for him. But when little Blake Jones III is red-shirted in hopes that he excels at lacrosse, I'm going to judge his parents for it.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:31     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:Never change, anti-redshirters. Never change.




Get help. A team, not just one practitioner.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:21     Subject: Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Never change, anti-redshirters. Never change.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:15     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So more and more people are red-shirting for reasons other than an actual delay, seemingly in hopes of their child having some advantage. But if everyone does it, then all of the children will be....average. And we all know DCUMers hate to think their children might be average.


+1. I think fear of their child being simply average motivates SOME (not all) affluent redshirters, for sure. Some studies have suggested this as a motivation for some affluent parents (I posted such a study earlier in the thread).

For others, I think there are real (but perhaps overstated) concerns/anxieties about their child being "not ready for K due to the child's anxiety, ability to sit still, etc.

For others, there are real, documented developmental delays, etc. that warrant holding back.



+2.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2019 13:11     Subject: Re:Since people are now redshirting spring bday kids

Anonymous wrote:So more and more people are red-shirting for reasons other than an actual delay, seemingly in hopes of their child having some advantage. But if everyone does it, then all of the children will be....average. And we all know DCUMers hate to think their children might be average.


+1. I think fear of their child being simply average motivates SOME (not all) affluent redshirters, for sure. Some studies have suggested this as a motivation for some affluent parents (I posted such a study earlier in the thread).

For others, I think there are real (but perhaps overstated) concerns/anxieties about their child being "not ready for K due to the child's anxiety, ability to sit still, etc.

For others, there are real, documented developmental delays, etc. that warrant holding back.