Anonymous
12/22/2018 11:54
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Where are we at with Tucker calling immigrants “dirty”. Any GOP come out against that? Any of the rightwing big money donors?
Anonymous
12/20/2018 10:45
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
NP.
My grandparents were LEGAL immigrants, although dirt-poor and uneducated. Their kids (my uncles/aunts/parents) all graduated from college - some had grad degrees - and were tax-paying engineers, teachers, and one a nurse. Drop down to my generation of cousins and siblings, and we have doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, senior corporate managers, and two college professors.
Could it be that people who obey the laws - those who apply legally - recognize that success and achievement take discipline, a willingness to follow rules, and an ability to tolerate delayed gratification and thus have passed those values onto their kids? And the ones who "jump the line," climb the fence, whatever, in violation of laws, have more of a "tske, take, tske" entitlement attitude, and the rules don't apply to ME, and thus pass those values on to their kids?
In other words, have legal immigrants essentially been pre-screened for the values that make them more likely to succeed?
My grandparents were LEGAL immigrants, although dirt-poor and uneducated. Their kids (my uncles/aunts/parents) all graduated from college - some had grad degrees - and were tax-paying engineers, teachers, and one a nurse. Drop down to my generation of cousins and siblings, and we have doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, senior corporate managers, and two college professors.
Could it be that people who obey the laws - those who apply legally - recognize that success and achievement take discipline, a willingness to follow rules, and an ability to tolerate delayed gratification and thus have passed those values onto their kids? And the ones who "jump the line," climb the fence, whatever, in violation of laws, have more of a "tske, take, tske" entitlement attitude, and the rules don't apply to ME, and thus pass those values on to their kids?
In other words, have legal immigrants essentially been pre-screened for the values that make them more likely to succeed?
Anonymous
12/20/2018 08:58
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Conflating
Anonymous
12/20/2018 08:58
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:The idiocy is that immigrants make America great. Immigrants make America more entrepreneurial.
Immigrants start companies. Immigrants fill our universities and do research to develop new drugs.
And at this point, the conserva-lie will be: "but you're focusing on immigrants who go through the normal process". Here's two reasons why the conservative distraction is wrong.
(1) Many of our ancestors were immigrants who came a century ago, when the equivalent of today's GOP demonized poor Italian and Irish immigrants -- i.e. literal "America First" conservative groups demonized legal immigrants too for political advantage. It's not about the process, it's about xenophobic tribalism to get votes.
(2) The reason smart creative legal immigrants want to come to America is our multicultural society which makes them feel welcome. The GOP's xenophobia is chasing those people away too.
(3: extra) Stephen Miller wants to cut legal immigration.
Bottom line: Tucker Carlson demonizes immigrants, to get poor gullible white people to vote for his boss Rupert Murdoch's pro-billionaire policies.
Without Tucker's hate, almost no one would vote for tax cuts for Murdoch.
It's not about immigrants. It's about billionaires.
Are you still contacting legal immigrants and illegal immigrants?
Anonymous
12/20/2018 08:56
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Tucker lied yesterday about immigrants again.
Again, it's shocking how much this rhetoric mirrors Nazi propaganda.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/15/tucker-carlson-suggested-immigrants-make-us-dirtier-it-cost-fox-news-an-advertiser/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ed23e207df74
In less than three minutes, Tucker Carlson suggested immigrants make the United States “dirtier,” contradicted himself on their values and gushed over Mexicans frustrated with Central American caravans. The opening tear cost his Fox News show an advertiser, at least for now.
Tucker Carlson and Fox news are harming America.
They should adopt a few border miles an go shovel the poop and pick up all the trash themselves.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 23:56
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
"Tonight, Tucker Carlson tripled-down on his comments calling immigrants "poorer and dirtier"'
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1075561551493545984
Screw that guy on Fox.
Go pound sand, racist and hate-spewer.
My f'ing grandparents were poor immigrants who came to America to work "poor, dirty" jobs.
Their grandkids have been successful in life through hard work.
This motherf'er on Fox grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and he has the b*lls to demean my immigrant ancestors? Get off the air.
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1075561551493545984
Screw that guy on Fox.
Go pound sand, racist and hate-spewer.
My f'ing grandparents were poor immigrants who came to America to work "poor, dirty" jobs.
Their grandkids have been successful in life through hard work.
This motherf'er on Fox grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and he has the b*lls to demean my immigrant ancestors? Get off the air.
Anonymous
12/16/2018 23:37
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
The idiocy is that immigrants make America great. Immigrants make America more entrepreneurial.
Immigrants start companies. Immigrants fill our universities and do research to develop new drugs.
And at this point, the conserva-lie will be: "but you're focusing on immigrants who go through the normal process". Here's two reasons why the conservative distraction is wrong.
(1) Many of our ancestors were immigrants who came a century ago, when the equivalent of today's GOP demonized poor Italian and Irish immigrants -- i.e. literal "America First" conservative groups demonized legal immigrants too for political advantage. It's not about the process, it's about xenophobic tribalism to get votes.
(2) The reason smart creative legal immigrants want to come to America is our multicultural society which makes them feel welcome. The GOP's xenophobia is chasing those people away too.
(3: extra) Stephen Miller wants to cut legal immigration.
Bottom line: Tucker Carlson demonizes immigrants, to get poor gullible white people to vote for his boss Rupert Murdoch's pro-billionaire policies.
Without Tucker's hate, almost no one would vote for tax cuts for Murdoch.
It's not about immigrants. It's about billionaires.
Immigrants start companies. Immigrants fill our universities and do research to develop new drugs.
And at this point, the conserva-lie will be: "but you're focusing on immigrants who go through the normal process". Here's two reasons why the conservative distraction is wrong.
(1) Many of our ancestors were immigrants who came a century ago, when the equivalent of today's GOP demonized poor Italian and Irish immigrants -- i.e. literal "America First" conservative groups demonized legal immigrants too for political advantage. It's not about the process, it's about xenophobic tribalism to get votes.
(2) The reason smart creative legal immigrants want to come to America is our multicultural society which makes them feel welcome. The GOP's xenophobia is chasing those people away too.
(3: extra) Stephen Miller wants to cut legal immigration.
Bottom line: Tucker Carlson demonizes immigrants, to get poor gullible white people to vote for his boss Rupert Murdoch's pro-billionaire policies.
Without Tucker's hate, almost no one would vote for tax cuts for Murdoch.
It's not about immigrants. It's about billionaires.
Anonymous
12/16/2018 18:59
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's honestly shocking to me how obsessed liberals are with Fox News. I mean, you people are so repulsed by anything having to do with that network. Here's a though... try watching CNN or MSNBC with as much disdain as you do Fox. You might actually notice that they're ALL biased.
Stop watching cable news. The news isn't the product. You, the audience, are the product. Their mission is to get you invested enough to watch through the commercials. Useful, educational news that is a fair representation of the world around you isn't terribly effective at that. Making you scared and angry, now that packs the emotional punch necessary to keep you watching through the commercials.
No, stop watching TV, period. It's all junk.
The History Channel is good, and TCM has some wonderful old classics. Just saying.
Anonymous
12/16/2018 18:39
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's honestly shocking to me how obsessed liberals are with Fox News. I mean, you people are so repulsed by anything having to do with that network. Here's a though... try watching CNN or MSNBC with as much disdain as you do Fox. You might actually notice that they're ALL biased.
Stop watching cable news. The news isn't the product. You, the audience, are the product. Their mission is to get you invested enough to watch through the commercials. Useful, educational news that is a fair representation of the world around you isn't terribly effective at that. Making you scared and angry, now that packs the emotional punch necessary to keep you watching through the commercials.
No, stop watching TV, period. It's all junk.
Anonymous
12/16/2018 17:15
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, this is my experience talking to my uncle who only watches Fox.
He has no idea about the truth. I asked him about Manafort and he said “Who?”
But he can quote Fox lies chapter and verse about Hilllary and Uranium One and Foundation etc etc.
You obviously don't watch Fox. Manafort is much discussed there. Hillary and Uranium One come up occasionally. But, of course, they never come up on the other networks.
+1.
Personally I think you need to watch both CBS News or similar AND Fox News to actually be informed about what's happening on our country.
Each prioritize only the most convenient half.
+2
Yep. I feel the only way to get both sides to a story is to watch/read all kinds of sources. They're all biased, so you might as well hear all the slants and them make up your own mind.
Exactly
Nonsense. Reputable newspapers are as unbiased as they can be. You can get international papers on line. Do not watch any cable or broadcast news! At least the act of reading involves the critical center’s of the brain.
+1
Who even watches TV news now? Aside from 70+ crowd.
If you'll both notice, the PP mentioned watching AND reading all news sources. Critical reading, and all...
Additionally, most of the liberal DCUM crowd lives and breathes CNN, MSNBC, etc., so you might want to talk to your cohort about their TV viewing habits.
In your Fox-addled imagination.
+1
The only ones obsessed with CNN and MSNBC are Trump and his idiot supporters.
And, it seems as if one poster here is obsessed with Fox. Seems as if there is a weekly thread criticizing Fox for something. I guess that is what happens when you're #1 in cable.
#1 in mentally-unstable, self-absorbed old farts with nothing better to do?It's 2018 -- who even sits around watching TV?
Well, you tell us. Who's watching CNN and Rachel Maddow?
I have no f*cking idea. No one under 70.
Interesting. I can't picture the over 70 crowd flocking to watch Maddow,
So true. And isn't PP edgy, pretending no one in his/her cohort watches TV news.
Anonymous
12/16/2018 15:20
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
We don't owe them anything.
Anonymous
12/16/2018 14:40
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Tucker lied yesterday about immigrants again.
Again, it's shocking how much this rhetoric mirrors Nazi propaganda.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/15/tucker-carlson-suggested-immigrants-make-us-dirtier-it-cost-fox-news-an-advertiser/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ed23e207df74
In less than three minutes, Tucker Carlson suggested immigrants make the United States “dirtier,” contradicted himself on their values and gushed over Mexicans frustrated with Central American caravans. The opening tear cost his Fox News show an advertiser, at least for now.
Tucker Carlson and Fox news are harming America.
It’s sad to watch this happen in real time.
Anonymous
12/15/2018 23:43
Subject: Re:"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Tucker lied yesterday about immigrants again.
Again, it's shocking how much this rhetoric mirrors Nazi propaganda.
Tucker Carlson and Fox news are harming America.
Again, it's shocking how much this rhetoric mirrors Nazi propaganda.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/15/tucker-carlson-suggested-immigrants-make-us-dirtier-it-cost-fox-news-an-advertiser/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ed23e207df74
In less than three minutes, Tucker Carlson suggested immigrants make the United States “dirtier,” contradicted himself on their values and gushed over Mexicans frustrated with Central American caravans. The opening tear cost his Fox News show an advertiser, at least for now.
Tucker Carlson and Fox news are harming America.
Anonymous
12/13/2018 12:34
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, this is my experience talking to my uncle who only watches Fox.
He has no idea about the truth. I asked him about Manafort and he said “Who?”
But he can quote Fox lies chapter and verse about Hilllary and Uranium One and Foundation etc etc.
You obviously don't watch Fox. Manafort is much discussed there. Hillary and Uranium One come up occasionally. But, of course, they never come up on the other networks.
+1.
Personally I think you need to watch both CBS News or similar AND Fox News to actually be informed about what's happening on our country.
Each prioritize only the most convenient half.
+2
Yep. I feel the only way to get both sides to a story is to watch/read all kinds of sources. They're all biased, so you might as well hear all the slants and them make up your own mind.
Exactly
Nonsense. Reputable newspapers are as unbiased as they can be. You can get international papers on line. Do not watch any cable or broadcast news! At least the act of reading involves the critical center’s of the brain.
+1
Who even watches TV news now? Aside from 70+ crowd.
If you'll both notice, the PP mentioned watching AND reading all news sources. Critical reading, and all...
Additionally, most of the liberal DCUM crowd lives and breathes CNN, MSNBC, etc., so you might want to talk to your cohort about their TV viewing habits.
In your Fox-addled imagination.
+1
The only ones obsessed with CNN and MSNBC are Trump and his idiot supporters.
And, it seems as if one poster here is obsessed with Fox. Seems as if there is a weekly thread criticizing Fox for something. I guess that is what happens when you're #1 in cable.
#1 in mentally-unstable, self-absorbed old farts with nothing better to do?
Well, you tell us. Who's watching CNN and Rachel Maddow?
I have no f*cking idea. No one under 70.
Interesting. I can't picture the over 70 crowd flocking to watch Maddow,
Anonymous
12/13/2018 12:28
Subject: "It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, this is my experience talking to my uncle who only watches Fox.
He has no idea about the truth. I asked him about Manafort and he said “Who?”
But he can quote Fox lies chapter and verse about Hilllary and Uranium One and Foundation etc etc.
You obviously don't watch Fox. Manafort is much discussed there. Hillary and Uranium One come up occasionally. But, of course, they never come up on the other networks.
+1.
Personally I think you need to watch both CBS News or similar AND Fox News to actually be informed about what's happening on our country.
Each prioritize only the most convenient half.
+2
Yep. I feel the only way to get both sides to a story is to watch/read all kinds of sources. They're all biased, so you might as well hear all the slants and them make up your own mind.
Exactly
Nonsense. Reputable newspapers are as unbiased as they can be. You can get international papers on line. Do not watch any cable or broadcast news! At least the act of reading involves the critical center’s of the brain.
+1
Who even watches TV news now? Aside from 70+ crowd.
If you'll both notice, the PP mentioned watching AND reading all news sources. Critical reading, and all...
Additionally, most of the liberal DCUM crowd lives and breathes CNN, MSNBC, etc., so you might want to talk to your cohort about their TV viewing habits.
In your Fox-addled imagination.
+1
The only ones obsessed with CNN and MSNBC are Trump and his idiot supporters.
And, it seems as if one poster here is obsessed with Fox. Seems as if there is a weekly thread criticizing Fox for something. I guess that is what happens when you're #1 in cable.
#1 in mentally-unstable, self-absorbed old farts with nothing better to do?
Well, you tell us. Who's watching CNN and Rachel Maddow?
I have no f*cking idea. No one under 70.