Anonymous
12/31/2018 16:38
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s no one’s “fault.” It’s the culture. The US simply doesn’t have the pervasive soccer culture that other countries do. I often wonder how the landscape might look if Soccer were the primary sport in this country, over football, baseball, basketball, and hockey.
Unfortunately, it just isn’t.
The US does not have a "pervasive" soccer culture, but it does have millions of people who are passionate about the game. The problem is that the USSF has failed miserably in its mission to advance soccer in this country, the latest coaching hire being an ample proof of that.
Unfortunately, millions of passionate fans doesn't equate to the best available talent choosing to play soccer over the population at large. The best athletes in this country still choose other sports. A cultural/social construct. It's not to say that all the best athletes are in other sports, but disproportionately this is the case. It's not just about physical brawn either; the same physical attributes that help this population set do well in other sports would help them do well in soccer, including mental processing quickness, reaction time, and superior motor control mapping and skill, to go along with the strength and speed needed to physically perform. That creme de la creme talent disproportionately goes to other sports in this country.
US Soccer can't fix that problem. It's cultural.
Anonymous
12/31/2018 11:46
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:It’s no one’s “fault.” It’s the culture. The US simply doesn’t have the pervasive soccer culture that other countries do. I often wonder how the landscape might look if Soccer were the primary sport in this country, over football, baseball, basketball, and hockey.
Unfortunately, it just isn’t.
The US does not have a "pervasive" soccer culture, but it does have millions of people who are passionate about the game. The problem is that the USSF has failed miserably in its mission to advance soccer in this country, the latest coaching hire being an ample proof of that.
Anonymous
12/27/2018 15:38
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
It’s no one’s “fault.” It’s the culture. The US simply doesn’t have the pervasive soccer culture that other countries do. I often wonder how the landscape might look if Soccer were the primary sport in this country, over football, baseball, basketball, and hockey.
Unfortunately, it just isn’t.
Unfortunately, it just isn’t.
Anonymous
12/27/2018 14:08
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s the best you’ve got? Xenophobic??
Their results are generally worse than the US and they have much higher populations. We’ll see how Berhalter does, he’s gotten a lot out of relatively crappy rosters in MLS and put your beloved Tata to shame at least once.
MLS has crappy rosters because they choose to have them and don't do anything to make them better. Because MLS is all about the money, not the game. All they want is good enough, not just good. And as long as MLS is allowed to control the USSF, the USMNT will be the same way.
In the last decade, MLS has improved more than any league in the world.
Sure, they had a really low starting point, but the whole 'MLS sucks" rhetoric just sounds stupider and stupider every year.
I don't know where you're getting that, but it simply isn't true. Try looking at pro leagues in Japan and China, for starters.
MLS does suck. And no matter how much it improves it will still suck, until it gets rid of its closed, cartel-like system that's designed to maximize profits at the expense of the game. It's the structure of MLS that sucks, a structure that's totally out of place in the global game and which holds American players back from having the edge they need to compete in an open world system. And MLS control over USSF casts the same dark shadow over the USMNT. It isn't about the quality of play. It's about a system that works against the goal of identifying and developing good US players and providing them with a competitive environment in which they can become dominant. What holds our players back is a closed, dead system that sucks all the competitiveness and creativity out of the game.
Even if you look just south of the border, you realize that MLS has not improved that much. With all the disarray and problems in Mexican soccer, Mexican clubs won every single CONCACAF champions league title, going 10 for 10.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Mexican clubs are in mid-season form for for most of the games, while MLS plays many of the games either pre-season or early on. The odds are heavily stacked against them.
I definitely agree with that. Not only does MLS not use the same calendar as most FIFA affiliated leagues in the Northern Hemisphere, but it's completely unrealistic to expect franchises to compete against independent clubs that operate in a competitive open system and also benefit from their federation's compliance with other FIFA regulations like training comp and solidarity payments.
Yep, there's no doubt the odds are heavily stacked against American teams.
But who's fault is that?
Anonymous
12/27/2018 11:10
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s the best you’ve got? Xenophobic??
Their results are generally worse than the US and they have much higher populations. We’ll see how Berhalter does, he’s gotten a lot out of relatively crappy rosters in MLS and put your beloved Tata to shame at least once.
MLS has crappy rosters because they choose to have them and don't do anything to make them better. Because MLS is all about the money, not the game. All they want is good enough, not just good. And as long as MLS is allowed to control the USSF, the USMNT will be the same way.
In the last decade, MLS has improved more than any league in the world.
Sure, they had a really low starting point, but the whole 'MLS sucks" rhetoric just sounds stupider and stupider every year.
I don't know where you're getting that, but it simply isn't true. Try looking at pro leagues in Japan and China, for starters.
MLS does suck. And no matter how much it improves it will still suck, until it gets rid of its closed, cartel-like system that's designed to maximize profits at the expense of the game. It's the structure of MLS that sucks, a structure that's totally out of place in the global game and which holds American players back from having the edge they need to compete in an open world system. And MLS control over USSF casts the same dark shadow over the USMNT. It isn't about the quality of play. It's about a system that works against the goal of identifying and developing good US players and providing them with a competitive environment in which they can become dominant. What holds our players back is a closed, dead system that sucks all the competitiveness and creativity out of the game.
Even if you look just south of the border, you realize that MLS has not improved that much. With all the disarray and problems in Mexican soccer, Mexican clubs won every single CONCACAF champions league title, going 10 for 10.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Mexican clubs are in mid-season form for for most of the games, while MLS plays many of the games either pre-season or early on. The odds are heavily stacked against them.
The competition's schedule is fairly similar to the UEFA champions league. One can always find excuses for poor performances. Preseason form is not a valid excuse for poor performance in the later, more meaningful stages of competition, which are in April-May.
All the major European leagues are on the same schedule...it's not similar at all to CONCACAF.
And if the teams get eliminated in the early stages, it doesn't matter how good they are in April and May.
You are mistaken. Not all European major leagues adhere to the same schedule. German soccer takes a winter break from later December through late January, while La Liga's has a very short break that lasts from December 20 through January 3rd and continues to play through the winter time. Premier league clubs do not even have a winter break with Christmas/New Year being the most congested part of their schedule, although Premier league plans to introduce a winter break next season. La Liga and EPL teams may have advantage in early spring, but mid to late spring the advantage goes to German teams, which will be in mid-season form, while Spanish and English teams will have more of late-season fatigue. Eastern European and Scandinavian leagues take even longer winter breaks, due to the climate differences.
Anonymous
12/25/2018 12:12
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s the best you’ve got? Xenophobic??
Their results are generally worse than the US and they have much higher populations. We’ll see how Berhalter does, he’s gotten a lot out of relatively crappy rosters in MLS and put your beloved Tata to shame at least once.
MLS has crappy rosters because they choose to have them and don't do anything to make them better. Because MLS is all about the money, not the game. All they want is good enough, not just good. And as long as MLS is allowed to control the USSF, the USMNT will be the same way.
In the last decade, MLS has improved more than any league in the world.
Sure, they had a really low starting point, but the whole 'MLS sucks" rhetoric just sounds stupider and stupider every year.
I don't know where you're getting that, but it simply isn't true. Try looking at pro leagues in Japan and China, for starters.
MLS does suck. And no matter how much it improves it will still suck, until it gets rid of its closed, cartel-like system that's designed to maximize profits at the expense of the game. It's the structure of MLS that sucks, a structure that's totally out of place in the global game and which holds American players back from having the edge they need to compete in an open world system. And MLS control over USSF casts the same dark shadow over the USMNT. It isn't about the quality of play. It's about a system that works against the goal of identifying and developing good US players and providing them with a competitive environment in which they can become dominant. What holds our players back is a closed, dead system that sucks all the competitiveness and creativity out of the game.
Even if you look just south of the border, you realize that MLS has not improved that much. With all the disarray and problems in Mexican soccer, Mexican clubs won every single CONCACAF champions league title, going 10 for 10.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Mexican clubs are in mid-season form for for most of the games, while MLS plays many of the games either pre-season or early on. The odds are heavily stacked against them.
The competition's schedule is fairly similar to the UEFA champions league. One can always find excuses for poor performances. Preseason form is not a valid excuse for poor performance in the later, more meaningful stages of competition, which are in April-May.
All the major European leagues are on the same schedule...it's not similar at all to CONCACAF.
And if the teams get eliminated in the early stages, it doesn't matter how good they are in April and May.
Anonymous
12/25/2018 00:37
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s the best you’ve got? Xenophobic??
Their results are generally worse than the US and they have much higher populations. We’ll see how Berhalter does, he’s gotten a lot out of relatively crappy rosters in MLS and put your beloved Tata to shame at least once.
MLS has crappy rosters because they choose to have them and don't do anything to make them better. Because MLS is all about the money, not the game. All they want is good enough, not just good. And as long as MLS is allowed to control the USSF, the USMNT will be the same way.
In the last decade, MLS has improved more than any league in the world.
Sure, they had a really low starting point, but the whole 'MLS sucks" rhetoric just sounds stupider and stupider every year.
I don't know where you're getting that, but it simply isn't true. Try looking at pro leagues in Japan and China, for starters.
MLS does suck. And no matter how much it improves it will still suck, until it gets rid of its closed, cartel-like system that's designed to maximize profits at the expense of the game. It's the structure of MLS that sucks, a structure that's totally out of place in the global game and which holds American players back from having the edge they need to compete in an open world system. And MLS control over USSF casts the same dark shadow over the USMNT. It isn't about the quality of play. It's about a system that works against the goal of identifying and developing good US players and providing them with a competitive environment in which they can become dominant. What holds our players back is a closed, dead system that sucks all the competitiveness and creativity out of the game.
Even if you look just south of the border, you realize that MLS has not improved that much. With all the disarray and problems in Mexican soccer, Mexican clubs won every single CONCACAF champions league title, going 10 for 10.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Mexican clubs are in mid-season form for for most of the games, while MLS plays many of the games either pre-season or early on. The odds are heavily stacked against them.
The competition's schedule is fairly similar to the UEFA champions league. One can always find excuses for poor performances. Preseason form is not a valid excuse for poor performance in the later, more meaningful stages of competition, which are in April-May.
Anonymous
12/24/2018 14:54
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That’s the best you’ve got? Xenophobic??
Their results are generally worse than the US and they have much higher populations. We’ll see how Berhalter does, he’s gotten a lot out of relatively crappy rosters in MLS and put your beloved Tata to shame at least once.
MLS has crappy rosters because they choose to have them and don't do anything to make them better. Because MLS is all about the money, not the game. All they want is good enough, not just good. And as long as MLS is allowed to control the USSF, the USMNT will be the same way.
In the last decade, MLS has improved more than any league in the world.
Sure, they had a really low starting point, but the whole 'MLS sucks" rhetoric just sounds stupider and stupider every year.
I don't know where you're getting that, but it simply isn't true. Try looking at pro leagues in Japan and China, for starters.
MLS does suck. And no matter how much it improves it will still suck, until it gets rid of its closed, cartel-like system that's designed to maximize profits at the expense of the game. It's the structure of MLS that sucks, a structure that's totally out of place in the global game and which holds American players back from having the edge they need to compete in an open world system. And MLS control over USSF casts the same dark shadow over the USMNT. It isn't about the quality of play. It's about a system that works against the goal of identifying and developing good US players and providing them with a competitive environment in which they can become dominant. What holds our players back is a closed, dead system that sucks all the competitiveness and creativity out of the game.
Even if you look just south of the border, you realize that MLS has not improved that much. With all the disarray and problems in Mexican soccer, Mexican clubs won every single CONCACAF champions league title, going 10 for 10.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Mexican clubs are in mid-season form for for most of the games, while MLS plays many of the games either pre-season or early on. The odds are heavily stacked against them.
Anonymous
12/22/2018 14:30
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:On the toilet at the moment. Turds could provide more relevant input that most of the posts here.
Dad, is that you??
Anonymous
12/22/2018 11:14
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:On the toilet at the moment. Turds could provide more relevant input that most of the posts here.
Cute.
Anonymous
12/22/2018 10:52
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
On the toilet at the moment. Turds could provide more relevant input that most of the posts here.
Anonymous
12/22/2018 10:19
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Watching Southampton play at the moment. Hasenhuttl would’ve been a better choice to lead the national team.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 16:06
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The squad as a whole isn’t all that great when it comes to playing out of the back, or sustaining possession in general
"Show me who your holding midfielder is, and I'll tell you what kind of team you've got” - Juanma Lillo
Fantastic quote from a fantastic coach. Our holding mid, unfortunately, was/is Michael Bradley
Anonymous
12/21/2018 14:28
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
Anonymous wrote:The squad as a whole isn’t all that great when it comes to playing out of the back, or sustaining possession in general
"Show me who your holding midfielder is, and I'll tell you what kind of team you've got” - Juanma Lillo
Anonymous
12/21/2018 07:02
Subject: USMNT Head Coach thread
The squad as a whole isn’t all that great when it comes to playing out of the back, or sustaining possession in general