Anonymous wrote:Based on the very limited data given, we do know that 75% of the Magnet MS slots went to non-CES kids. 75%, really? That means the bulk of new MS magnet students did not take the advanced CES curriculum. Just ONE Cold Spring CES child (the highest testing CES in the county) was admitted to TPMS. None were admitted on appeal, despite a number scoring straight 99s on COGAT and in the 270s and 280s on MAP-M, well above OP's child's scores. Standards necessarily were, and will be, lowered. It is social engineering, pure and simple.

That is really amazing.

Based on the very limited data given, we do know that 75% of the Magnet MS slots went to non-CES kids. 75%, really? That means the bulk of new MS magnet students did not take the advanced CES curriculum. Just ONE Cold Spring CES child (the highest testing CES in the county) was admitted to TPMS. None were admitted on appeal, despite a number scoring straight 99s on COGAT and in the 270s and 280s on MAP-M, well above OP's child's scores. Standards necessarily were, and will be, lowered. It is social engineering, pure and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Are all those parents sticking with their home MS also having their child take the test? Hmmm.

Every year there are a few parents who hope to convince others to not compete in order to improve their kid's chances.

PP again

And, really, if someone is looking to improve their kid's chances, they would be better off moving to a cluster with a lower performing MS. MCPS has said that they want to take more kids from the lower performing home MSs. Even the high scoring kids from the 'better' MSs will have less of a chance than the lower scoring kids from the lower performing MSs.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Are all those parents sticking with their home MS also having their child take the test? Hmmm.

Every year there are a few parents who hope to convince others to not compete in order to improve their kid's chances.

I'm the PP who posted about my kid's CES classmates not planning to attend TPMS. Believe me or not, I'm not trying to convince anyone NOT to take the test. My kid is definitely taking the test (as I said), and I'd be pretty sure that most CES kids will take it, since it's good practice for that type of test. I have not ulterior motives.

We've just been discussing this at my house, and amongst DC's friends/parents who are also at the CES since the test is being given in a few weeks. And, because the system has been changing over the last two years.

I'm sure some/many parents will still try for TPMS. But, there are definitely a good number who feel that TPMS/Eastern are not looking for the best performing students, so the draw to attend is less.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Are all those parents sticking with their home MS also having their child take the test? Hmmm.

Every year there are a few parents who hope to convince others to not compete in order to improve their kid's chances.

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

Although it's probably true, the county could stand to open a few more STEM magnets.

Both statements are true

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Are all those parents sticking with their home MS also having their child take the test? Hmmm.

Every year there are a few parents who hope to convince others to not compete in order to improve their kid's chances.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Are all those parents sticking with their home MS also having their child take the test? Hmmm.

Not sure! Our CES takes the CoGat next month for the MS Magnet. I will report back after that and let you know how many kids take the test.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Are all those parents sticking with their home MS also having their child take the test? Hmmm.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

I don’t really think that is true.

I have a 5th grader in a CES. Talking to many parents, and a majority have decided to stick with their home MS.

Makes it seem that the Magnet will actually become less competitive. My kid is taking the test, but we will not waste the time and energy to travel down to Takona Park if she gets on. Especially because MCPS has made it clear that TPMS is not meant to draw the highest performing kids. What’s the point?

Anonymous wrote:While MAP tests for breadth, we have a test in depth coming in Nov. AMC 8 results are public if the kids are on the honor roll. It will be interesting to see how TP performs there.

Wouldn't those results only apply to 8th graders who were admitted prior to the change to admission?

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

Although it's probably true, the county could stand to open a few more STEM magnets.

True in the sense of more kids competing for very few spots, but OP's kids metrics are lower than numerous kids' rejected due to the "peer cohort" rationale.

The peer cohort excuse is total nonsense. Just because some hyper-competitive tiger moms are angry because they can no longer game the system. With the advent of universal screening more than a few hundred kids whose parents recommend them now compete for a limited number of spots.

While MAP tests for breadth, we have a test in depth coming in Nov. AMC 8 results are public if the kids are on the honor roll. It will be interesting to see how TP performs there.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

Although it's probably true, the county could stand to open a few more STEM magnets.

True in the sense of more kids competing for very few spots, but OP's kids metrics are lower than numerous kids' rejected due to the "peer cohort" rationale.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm OP I think the general consensus of this thread is that your comments did nothing to show the quality of the magnet has not been watered down.

This.

Was thinking the same. But people see what they want to be true.

On the contrary, with universal screening, magnet admissions are now more competitive than ever.

Although it's probably true, the county could stand to open a few more STEM magnets.