Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 10:15     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:Not too many physics majors on DCUM today.


You’re full of it and never passed a physics class in your life.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 10:13     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
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Anonymous wrote:The whole thing is horrifying. These limo "boats" are ungainly at best and that was a dangerous intersection. Seat belts? Unlikely the limo had them. What a tragedy for so many people.


It wasn’t a dangerous intersection.

The speed limit is something like 30 mph and the limo blew past a stop sign and hit a parked suv.


You are contradicting all the news articles and the locals who are all saying it was a notorious intersection and that the state had tried to make it safer a few years ago but hadn't succeeded. Apparently it is all a steep downhill and there is no warning that there is a T-junction with a stop sign coming, so people who are not intimately familiar with the area are not expecting it. Because nobody anticipates there being a stop sign at the bottom of a steep hill with nowhere to go but a ditch, since that isn't a well-considered road design. Trucks were banned from that section of the road because too many were losing control. And there are some suggestions that the limo's brakes failed.


The “locals” refers to the manager of the restaurant being quoted in multiple articles. It’s not a dangerous intersection.


“Kirby says the local town supervisor worked with New York's Department of Transportation to bar heavy trucks from using the road.”
And more here: https://wnyt.com/news/schoharie-crash-intersection-concerned-residents/5100421/


Trucks that have lost their brakes—which were all of the previous accidents doesn’t make it a dangerous intersection. Those accidents were due to mechanical failures.


By ‘mechanical failures’ you mean a ‘felonious neglect to perform proper maintenance’ right? Let’s not believe that these are faultless incidents.
When you fail to maintain a vehicle, drive it on the road and kill other people that’s called ‘manslaughter’ and ‘murder’.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2018 06:04     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
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Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong in this story. The owner of the company was an FBI informant. The driver had a criminal past. Absolutely horrible story. Horrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/limo-company-operator-has-history-as-fbi-informant


That link doesn’t say anything about the driver?


The driver is dead. I think they are still figuring him out. All we know is that he wasn’t licensed for a limo.


He wasn't licensed to carry 15 or more passengers. He was for the vehicle itself and any numbers under 15. And the occupants added more people at the last moment.


You can drive 15 people with a regular driver’s license. The lowest level of commerical license is CDL with passenger endorsement.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2018 22:36     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:On a limousine trade site there are a lot of new interesting facts.

The vehicle was listed for sale 2 days earlier for $9000.
The driver was cited in the past for not having the proper license
The driver often complained to his wife about the unsafe vehicles.
A passenger (there were 15 of them) texted before the crash the vehicle was in bad condition and you the loud sound was making everyone deaf. This makes it very interesting, if the muffler is not connected properly, Carbon Monoxide could be entering the vehicle me think the muffler was not connected property, all the passengers cold have died prior to the crash and there were no skid marks.

Will be interesting to see what the the medical examiner says.


Oh wow, so the wreck could have occurred because the driver lost consciousness from carbon monoxide? I hope for the passengers' sake that they were unconscious when it happened.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2018 16:27     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
On a limousine trade site there are a lot of new interesting facts.

The vehicle was listed for sale 2 days earlier for $9000.
The driver was cited in the past for not having the proper license
The driver often complained to his wife about the unsafe vehicles.
A passenger (there were 15 of them) texted before the crash the vehicle was in bad condition and you the loud sound was making everyone deaf. This makes it very interesting, if the muffler is not connected properly, Carbon Monoxide could be entering the vehicle me think the muffler was not connected property, all the passengers cold have died prior to the crash and there were no skid marks.

Will be interesting to see what the the medical examiner says.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2018 15:34     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
It's ridiculous that stretch limos are even allowed on the roads. They don't meet any safety standards:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/nyregion/stretch-limo-dangers-safety.html

I hope something meaningful results from this tragedy--namely uniform safety standards.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2018 13:46     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Limo owner's son arrested. Charges pending...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/son-of-limo-company-owner-is-arrested-after-fatal-crash/ar-BBOcBDk?ocid=ientp
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2018 04:03     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Brakes failed. They never stood a chance.

"The vehicle failed a Sept. 4 safety inspection in part due to an Anti-lock breaking system (ABS) malfunction indicators for the hydraulic brake system, according to records reviewed by ABC News."
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2018 04:02     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong in this story. The owner of the company was an FBI informant. The driver had a criminal past. Absolutely horrible story. Horrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/limo-company-operator-has-history-as-fbi-informant


That link doesn’t say anything about the driver?


The driver is dead. I think they are still figuring him out. All we know is that he wasn’t licensed for a limo.


He wasn't licensed to carry 15 or more passengers. He was for the vehicle itself and any numbers under 15. And the occupants added more people at the last moment.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 22:52     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong in this story. The owner of the company was an FBI informant. The driver had a criminal past. Absolutely horrible story. Horrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/limo-company-operator-has-history-as-fbi-informant


That link doesn’t say anything about the driver?


The driver is dead. I think they are still figuring him out. All we know is that he wasn’t licensed for a limo.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 22:43     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong in this story. The owner of the company was an FBI informant. The driver had a criminal past. Absolutely horrible story. Horrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/limo-company-operator-has-history-as-fbi-informant


That link doesn’t say anything about the driver?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 22:41     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:Why don’t limos have airbags?


Read the Times article linked earlier written after 4 people died when a similar limo crashed three years ago on Long Island.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 20:53     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:Why don’t limos have airbags?


They are pieced together through welding. One of the local news stations aired the safety requirements for Maryland last night. It was interesting to hear.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 20:44     Subject: Re:20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong in this story. The owner of the company was an FBI informant. The driver had a criminal past. Absolutely horrible story. Horrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/limo-company-operator-has-history-as-fbi-informant


How does this become public information? Wouldn’t that be kept top secret?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 20:15     Subject: 20 dead in upstate NY in limo accident
Why don’t limos have airbags?