Anonymous
Post 07/11/2018 10:23     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:the ballot wording was misleading. a lot of people don't understand that tips count towards minimum wage. I understand the frustration with overturning a vote (I would love a do-over with Briane getting reelcted too!), but in this case when the overwhelming majority of servers are opposed to this measure that is supposed to "help" them then you really do need reconsider what is at stake.


People voted for what they voted for. That's how it works. Are the councilmembers really saying, well, the voters didn't really understand what they voted for, plus they voted for me, so it's ok for me to overturn it?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2018 10:07     Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well I'm not going to bear the brunt of this by paying higher meal prices AND tipping 20% on top of it so I guess I'll just cut back on the amount I eat out which is fine for me, but obviously not so much for those waiting tables or operating restaurants. Do you see how cause and effect works?


I hope you don’t have a job where your cognitive skills are needed on a daily basis as it is clear you have none. Could you show me the part of the proposed legislation that mandates tipping ? Since you care so much about those in the service industry, particularly restaurant workers , why would you be ok with the status quo where the prevailing minimum wage of a city is $15 and a subset of the labor force is paid $3.33/hr?


You are one angry little person, aren't you?


If caring about the well being of a segment of the labor force is angry to you, I welcome that compliment with glee. America’s fast becoming a third world country because of people like you and your insatiable and demonic selfishness and inability to see past the tip of your nose. I don’t get it, shouldn’t you be happy that you’d have more money in your pocket now that you won’t be going out to restaurants as much you used to?


They aren;t paid $3.33 hour, and this is what was misleading on on the ballot. Many make more than the $15/hour now with tips. If this passes, then most people will see no need to tip so their wage effectively drops for a lot of people.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2018 10:06     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
the ballot wording was misleading. a lot of people don't understand that tips count towards minimum wage. I understand the frustration with overturning a vote (I would love a do-over with Briane getting reelcted too!), but in this case when the overwhelming majority of servers are opposed to this measure that is supposed to "help" them then you really do need reconsider what is at stake.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2018 08:57     Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:I heard one of the main sources of opposition to this measure is that it will allow employees to unionize. However I haven't really read much about that in any of the articles or commentary.


Servers can fight together for better wages. No longer will they be blamed by restaurant owners for "not working hard enough" when a cheapskate refuses to tip.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 22:22     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
I hate tipping so I look forward to having restaurants add the service charge instead.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 17:51     Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
I heard one of the main sources of opposition to this measure is that it will allow employees to unionize. However I haven't really read much about that in any of the articles or commentary.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 15:50     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a result of similar wage restrictions, San Francisco restaurants are becoming self-serve with no waiters. The same will likely happen here.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/san-francisco-restaurants-cant-afford-waiters-so-theyre-putting-diners-to-work/




Did you read the article you linked to? The article says it's mainly because of housing prices.


Anonymous
Post 07/07/2018 15:48     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:As a result of similar wage restrictions, San Francisco restaurants are becoming self-serve with no waiters. The same will likely happen here.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/san-francisco-restaurants-cant-afford-waiters-so-theyre-putting-diners-to-work/

Anonymous
Post 07/06/2018 20:26     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
As a result of similar wage restrictions, San Francisco restaurants are becoming self-serve with no waiters. The same will likely happen here.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/san-francisco-restaurants-cant-afford-waiters-so-theyre-putting-diners-to-work/
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2018 17:44     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Lack of due process. City-wide changes to law should not not be rung up on residents during a primary slot. Do it in November.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2018 12:30     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:No better way to discourage people from voting than to disregard the results. Why did I even bother to vote? If council and or mayor will just ignore the results, what is the point? Why not just follow the will of the people, see how it goes, and if it doesn’t work out, then try again with something else?


If 77 passed how we not know that will of the peoples to was elect Comrade Lazere?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2018 12:23     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
I voted no, but the silver lining with passage is that I wont have to figure out tips anymore.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2018 10:17     Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The DC Council will overturn it anyway. Hardly anyone voted in the primary. Maybe we'd get a more accurate vote for sentiment if the vote occurred in November. Hey, what an idea! Construct some better legislation and re-offer the question in November.

Remind me to tip less in DC if it gets overturned by the council.


Why punish the wait staff if it gets turned over by the council? The overwhelming majority of professional service workers were against Prop 77 anyway. There are too many social justice warriors in this town, who by and large never worked a REAL job in their lives, yet salivate to impose their deluded beliefs on others.


It's interesting that you are posting from New York. When you say "this town" do you mean the town in which you are currently located or DC?


Jeff, I appreciate your due diligence! I am on vacation with my family and your site provides a means for me to keep up with the news associated with our beloved city. Road food in the hinterlands is generally atrocious. I miss the high-quality dining we have in DC, and am scared that it is going to disintegrate into plate-drop-off with a scowl, as you see in some European destinations (which I can't afford to visit anymore). DC dining is basically all I have to look forward to!! No thanks to Prop 77.


Np you’re on vacation in New York? Hmm

Why “hmmm”?
jsteele
Post 06/23/2018 10:13     Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
I’ll fully support the Council overturning the proposition if they also overturn the election victories of the winning Council Members and the Mayor. I can respect their opinion that the election was not valid, but not that only one item on the ballot was invalid.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2018 09:59     Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
No better way to discourage people from voting than to disregard the results. Why did I even bother to vote? If council and or mayor will just ignore the results, what is the point? Why not just follow the will of the people, see how it goes, and if it doesn’t work out, then try again with something else?