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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Cherry picking from the #1 prep school in the world. What does that prove? The median family income of a student from Wake Forest is $221,500, it is top 10 in wealthiest student bodies in the US.

The median family income of a student from Virginia is $155,500.

As I said, WF has serious cachet among wealthy. While UVA is fantastic, but there's a segment of rich people that turn their nose down on a big public U education - they want their kids in small classes, around very high % of other smart rich kids.

https://www.gds.org/page/academics/college-counseling/matriculation-map
GDS Past three years:
11 to Michigan
4 to UVA
1 to Wake Forest

https://www.holton-arms.edu/scholar/college-counseling/matriculation
Holton Arms, class of 2014-2017:
15 to UVA
3 to Michigan
0 to Wake Forest

Choate Rosemary, past 5 years:
22 to Michigan
7 to UVA
0 to Wake Forest
https://www.choate.edu/uploaded/Documents/Academics/College_Profile.pdf

Phillips Exeter, class of 2015-2017:
25 to Michigan
4 to UVA
0 to Wake Forest
https://www.exeter.edu/sites/default/files/documents/college_matriculation.pdf

St. Paul’s, class of 2013-2016:
11 to UMich
9 to UVA
5 to Wake Forest
https://s3.amazonaws.com/k12-prod-us-east-1-media-pub/36/misc/misc_134107.pdf

Lawrenceville, class 2015-2017:
15 to UMich
15 to UVA
5 to Wake Forest
https://www.lawrenceville.org/page/academics/college-counseling

Thanks for helping me out! Hopefully this helps settle the matter. Some of the smartest kids in the country, who both have their choice of schools and have money, choose UVA and Michigan over Wake Forest in the vast majority of cases.

I mean GWU

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Cherry picking from the #1 prep school in the world. What does that prove? The median family income of a student from Wake Forest is $221,500, it is top 10 in wealthiest student bodies in the US.

The median family income of a student from Virginia is $155,500.

As I said, WF has serious cachet among wealthy. While UVA is fantastic, but there's a segment of rich people that turn their nose down on a big public U education - they want their kids in small classes, around very high % of other smart rich kids.

https://www.gds.org/page/academics/college-counseling/matriculation-map
GDS Past three years:
11 to Michigan
4 to UVA
1 to Wake Forest

https://www.holton-arms.edu/scholar/college-counseling/matriculation
Holton Arms, class of 2014-2017:
15 to UVA
3 to Michigan
0 to Wake Forest

Choate Rosemary, past 5 years:
22 to Michigan
7 to UVA
0 to Wake Forest
https://www.choate.edu/uploaded/Documents/Academics/College_Profile.pdf

Phillips Exeter, class of 2015-2017:
25 to Michigan
4 to UVA
0 to Wake Forest
https://www.exeter.edu/sites/default/files/documents/college_matriculation.pdf

St. Paul’s, class of 2013-2016:
11 to UMich
9 to UVA
5 to Wake Forest
https://s3.amazonaws.com/k12-prod-us-east-1-media-pub/36/misc/misc_134107.pdf

Lawrenceville, class 2015-2017:
15 to UMich
15 to UVA
5 to Wake Forest
https://www.lawrenceville.org/page/academics/college-counseling

Average family income at GWI is $183k. Does that mean it’s better than UVA?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Cherry picking from the #1 prep school in the world. What does that prove? The median family income of a student from Wake Forest is $221,500, it is top 10 in wealthiest student bodies in the US.

The median family income of a student from Virginia is $155,500.

As I said, WF has serious cachet among wealthy. While UVA is fantastic, but there's a segment of rich people that turn their nose down on a big public U education - they want their kids in small classes, around very high % of other smart rich kids.

Even if true, the only thing this proves is that WFU attracts rich kids who aren’t smart enough for better schools.

ding ding ding! We have a winner, folks!

Anonymous wrote:Interesting: Exeter had no one enroll at WFU. Deerfield had a couple, but UVA had more than 20.

UVA > WFU

Yep. See my post above. I quickly checked several top prep schools. The preference for UVA and Michigan over Wake Forest is clear.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Cherry picking from the #1 prep school in the world. What does that prove? The median family income of a student from Wake Forest is $221,500, it is top 10 in wealthiest student bodies in the US.

The median family income of a student from Virginia is $155,500.

As I said, WF has serious cachet among wealthy. While UVA is fantastic, but there's a segment of rich people that turn their nose down on a big public U education - they want their kids in small classes, around very high % of other smart rich kids.

Even if true, the only thing this proves is that WFU attracts rich kids who aren’t smart enough for better schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Cherry picking from the #1 prep school in the world. What does that prove? The median family income of a student from Wake Forest is $221,500, it is top 10 in wealthiest student bodies in the US.

The median family income of a student from Virginia is $155,500.

As I said, WF has serious cachet among wealthy. While UVA is fantastic, but there's a segment of rich people that turn their nose down on a big public U education - they want their kids in small classes, around very high % of other smart rich kids.

If you're going to make that statement, you have to back it up with data that clearly refutes the data I posted.

Also, for good measure, I checked Exeter's matriculation for 2015-2017 and 0 kids went to Wake Forest. UVA has 4, and Michigan has 25.

Choate produces a list of universities more than three graduates have gone to over the past 5 years. Wake Forest is not on that list. Michigan has 22, and UVA has 7.

From 2014-2017, 8 kids from Hotchkiss went to Michigan, 6 went to UVA, and fewer than 5 went to Wake Forest.

I could go on, but I hope you get the point.

Show me something beyond the family income that suggests the school has "serious cachet among wealthy prep school families."

Interesting: Exeter had no one enroll at WFU. Deerfield had a couple, but UVA had more than 20.

UVA > WFU

UVA and Michigan have top 20 reputation rankings. WFU is 34th.

http://publicuniversityhonors.com/tag/us-news-academic-reputation-rankings/

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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Cherry picking from the #1 prep school in the world. What does that prove? The median family income of a student from Wake Forest is $221,500, it is top 10 in wealthiest student bodies in the US.

The median family income of a student from Virginia is $155,500.

As I said, WF has serious cachet among wealthy. While UVA is fantastic, but there's a segment of rich people that turn their nose down on a big public U education - they want their kids in small classes, around very high % of other smart rich kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

In my view this settles the matter. If UVA is attracting ten matriculants in one year from Andover, it’s prestigious. Not kidding.

Anonymous wrote:BTW:

For undergraduate teaching (an indicator I assume you value?):

Michigan -- 6
Wake Forest -- 12
UVA -- 17

Again, there are some 4000 undergraduate institutions in the US. Michigan, Wake, and UVA are all in the top .5% of US schools for this measure. If you are seriously going to evaluate these schools as if there’s some significant difference in the .2% that separates them...I don’t get it.

Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.

Wow, way to be an elitist douche. I graduated with honors from Andover. I'm well versed in "the allure of a selective private education." You know how many kids went to Wake Forest from Andover last year? 0. 5 kids went to Michigan and 10 went to UVA. Why? Because UVA and Michigan are better than Wake Forest.

(https://www.andover.edu/files/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2017-2018.pdf)

Wake Forest has a serious cachet among wealthy prep school families. It sounds like a lot of public university alums post here, so the allure of a selective private education full of snobby rich kids is over your head.