Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 09:40     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have to wonder what prompted her vitriolic Twitter spree this morning. It seems self destructive. Yes, on one hand better that we all see her for what she is, but she seemed professionally on the upswing and so foolish for her to lash out in such an ugly way.

I was thinking the same thing. I am a middle-age Black woman. I loved the first iteration of the Roseanne show. There were two episodes in particular that really resonate with me 20 years later... 1) when DJ participated in teasing a Black girl in gym class; Roseanne let him have it, and 2) during the Rodney King riots in LA she and Tom Arnold's character were also looting AND she showed two Black characters from A Different World who weren't looting. I thought that those were very deliberate and thoughtful episodes and I really appreciated those storylines.

Fast forward... I just have a hard time believing that Roseanne was a closet, gross racist all those years. I didn't watch the "new" Roseanne because of everything that she's done and said since the first one went off the air. This whole thing makes me so sad. Valerie Jarrett, by all accounts, is a lovely, accomplished woman who doesn't deserve to be the focal point of her racist rhetoric; no one does. I mean... she literally DID NOT care about all of the people who earn a living working on her show. I'm sad because people like Roseanne just cannot process that the collateral damage does more harm to their ilk than their targets. Valerie Jarrett will be just fine. She will continue to earn a living. The people working on the Roseanne show that may have been out of work for a while or had an opportunity to resurrect a dormant acting career... she set those people back and affected their livelihoods.

Her racist views don't bother me as much as her disregard for how those views impact people that depended on her for a living.

I'm hopeful that this will be a shift that causes people to really rethink how they use their platform.


Yes, vile racists who have a large public following should be more careful because it might have financial implications for those who choose to work with a vile racist. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 09:18     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:You have to wonder what prompted her vitriolic Twitter spree this morning. It seems self destructive. Yes, on one hand better that we all see her for what she is, but she seemed professionally on the upswing and so foolish for her to lash out in such an ugly way.

I was thinking the same thing. I am a middle-age Black woman. I loved the first iteration of the Roseanne show. There were two episodes in particular that really resonate with me 20 years later... 1) when DJ participated in teasing a Black girl in gym class; Roseanne let him have it, and 2) during the Rodney King riots in LA she and Tom Arnold's character were also looting AND she showed two Black characters from A Different World who weren't looting. I thought that those were very deliberate and thoughtful episodes and I really appreciated those storylines.

Fast forward... I just have a hard time believing that Roseanne was a closet, gross racist all those years. I didn't watch the "new" Roseanne because of everything that she's done and said since the first one went off the air. This whole thing makes me so sad. Valerie Jarrett, by all accounts, is a lovely, accomplished woman who doesn't deserve to be the focal point of her racist rhetoric; no one does. I mean... she literally DID NOT care about all of the people who earn a living working on her show. I'm sad because people like Roseanne just cannot process that the collateral damage does more harm to their ilk than their targets. Valerie Jarrett will be just fine. She will continue to earn a living. The people working on the Roseanne show that may have been out of work for a while or had an opportunity to resurrect a dormant acting career... she set those people back and affected their livelihoods.

Her racist views don't bother me as much as her disregard for how those views impact people that depended on her for a living.

I'm hopeful that this will be a shift that causes people to really rethink how they use their platform.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 09:08     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Annoying that they canceled it. She said what she said off the show - it’s not like it was written into a script to be aired on ABC. She can have whatever views she likes - oh wait she can’t, the liberal polite police won’t allow it.



Rosanne isn't being arrested for her views, PP. She simply was fired for it. People don't want to work with her or be associated with her.

For some weird reason, people like you cannot seem to understand that your free speech doesn't mean you have the right to to speak in my house.


+1. Notably, even the Trump Administration itself has fired employees for racist tweets.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/19/16911372/racist-comments-trump-appointees-carl-higbie-americorps


And then rehired him to work for a pro-Trump PAC.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 09:03     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
So are your pro-Roseanne people suggesting that employers should not be able to "retaliate" against employees for free speech? Because that protects Roseanne today but protects liberal speech tomorrow.

So your employee goes on an Anti-Trump rant and your customers boycott your business and, nothing you can do. You cool with that?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:57     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Annoying that they canceled it. She said what she said off the show - it’s not like it was written into a script to be aired on ABC. She can have whatever views she likes - oh wait she can’t, the liberal polite police won’t allow it.



Rosanne isn't being arrested for her views, PP. She simply was fired for it. People don't want to work with her or be associated with her.

For some weird reason, people like you cannot seem to understand that your free speech doesn't mean you have the right to to speak in my house.



Private companies can fire people for anything that damages their reputation. And most likely her contract has a morals clause.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:54     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:Is comparing Trump to an Orangutan racist?


No, but it is an insult to his hair color.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:45     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
You’ve got to love the hypocrisy of the ‘personal responsibility’ crowd . A major characteristic of these déplorables is their cowardice and lack of courage in owning up to their words and actions . Ambien my ass
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:43     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:Is comparing Trump to an Orangutan racist?


Only if you think that Trump was born orange.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:25     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:Is comparing Trump to an Orangutan racist?


It's not racist, but it is anti-animal.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:19     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Annoying that they canceled it. She said what she said off the show - it’s not like it was written into a script to be aired on ABC. She can have whatever views she likes - oh wait she can’t, the liberal polite police won’t allow it.



Rosanne isn't being arrested for her views, PP. She simply was fired for it. People don't want to work with her or be associated with her.

For some weird reason, people like you cannot seem to understand that your free speech doesn't mean you have the right to to speak in my house.


+1. Notably, even the Trump Administration itself has fired employees for racist tweets.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/19/16911372/racist-comments-trump-appointees-carl-higbie-americorps
jsteele
Post 05/30/2018 08:11     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:Is comparing Trump to an Orangutan racist?


No. That should be obvious to any thinking person.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:09     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Is comparing Trump to an Orangutan racist?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 08:04     Subject: Re:ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:I have no love for Barr - especially after her crotch-holding rendition of the National Anthem, but the hypocrisy here is insane. She immediately apologized to Jarret and the public at large, saying it was a bad joke. Yet monsters like Wolfe and SNL continue to spew venom and not a word of outrage. America is growing tired of the double standard.


Corporations are people. They have sincerely held religious and moral beliefs. They are free to not participate in their employees getting birth control, or to stop selling guns if it bothers their conscience. If Roseanne's tweets bother the conscience of ABC, ABC has a right to cancel her show in accordance with whatever contract they have. They have a right to their hypocrisy as you see it. You have a right to be mad or boycott or whatever. You have a right to send them letters complaining about "The View" or whatever.

I don't see the problem. You do you, ABC does ABC. Roseanne can make a deal with another network or internet entertainment group if the demand is there. Capitalism baby.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 07:56     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:Annoying that they canceled it. She said what she said off the show - it’s not like it was written into a script to be aired on ABC. She can have whatever views she likes - oh wait she can’t, the liberal polite police won’t allow it.


Did you feel the same way about Kathy Griffin's shenanigans? Probably not.

And since when is not saying racists crap about African Americans a matter of not being "polite"? What Trump and conservatives have done is veil racism as being contrarian and nonconformist and "anti PC" instead of the hateful, destructive, ignorance that it is. Disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2018 07:41     Subject: ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after racist Twitter rant
Anonymous wrote:Annoying that they canceled it. She said what she said off the show - it’s not like it was written into a script to be aired on ABC. She can have whatever views she likes - oh wait she can’t, the liberal polite police won’t allow it.



Rosanne isn't being arrested for her views, PP. She simply was fired for it. People don't want to work with her or be associated with her.

For some weird reason, people like you cannot seem to understand that your free speech doesn't mean you have the right to to speak in my house.