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Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

God owes you no "evidence". Don't you understand that? You are nothing compared to God.

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
John 20:29

I didn't ask "him" for evidence.

I asked you for evidence.

I accepted Jesus into my heart. I have no idols (money, power, sex, looks, popularity, travel, food, and other deities) in my life. I live for God. He is my first love, my firs commitment, even before my family. He created me. He created all my mental faculties and abilities. I am happy and delighted to obey Him. I need no "evidence". Evidence is in my heart and in my actions that are congruent with my heart that is devoted to God. If you are asking me to summarize all my Biblical knowledge for you, I won't do it. Someone on another thread posted lots of useful links to gain the basic knowledge of the Abrahamic faiths.

How is this different than Stockholm Syndrome?

It brings people peace and they will die before finding out that they were wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I need no "evidence".

That, to me, is very very sad.

No one cares what's sad to you. Certainly God doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

God owes you no "evidence". Don't you understand that? You are nothing compared to God.

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
John 20:29

I didn't ask "him" for evidence.

I asked you for evidence.

I accepted Jesus into my heart. I have no idols (money, power, sex, looks, popularity, travel, food, and other deities) in my life. I live for God. He is my first love, my firs commitment, even before my family. He created me. He created all my mental faculties and abilities. I am happy and delighted to obey Him. I need no "evidence". Evidence is in my heart and in my actions that are congruent with my heart that is devoted to God. If you are asking me to summarize all my Biblical knowledge for you, I won't do it. Someone on another thread posted lots of useful links to gain the basic knowledge of the Abrahamic faiths.

How is this different than Stockholm Syndrome?

Anonymous wrote:I need no "evidence".

That, to me, is very very sad.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

God owes you no "evidence". Don't you understand that? You are nothing compared to God.

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
John 20:29

I didn't ask "him" for evidence.

I asked you for evidence.

I accepted Jesus into my heart. I have no idols (money, power, sex, looks, popularity, travel, food, and other deities) in my life. I live for God. He is my first love, my firs commitment, even before my family. He created me. He created all my mental faculties and abilities. I am happy and delighted to obey Him. I need no "evidence". Evidence is in my heart and in my actions that are congruent with my heart that is devoted to God. If you are asking me to summarize all my Biblical knowledge for you, I won't do it. Someone on another thread posted lots of useful links to gain the basic knowledge of the Abrahamic faiths.

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If he does exist and you stand before Him, what will you say?

I would tell him he has a great deal of explaining to do.

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I see evidence of God in everything, in our world and creation.

The horrible things too? That's really sad.

Anonymous wrote:

Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

God owes you no "evidence". Don't you understand that? You are nothing compared to God.

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
John 20:29

I didn't ask "him" for evidence.

I asked you for evidence.

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He owes you no explanation and "justice" according to your reality. He is so omnipotent and outside of this reality that you perceive that He can strike you and me dissapeared forever in one moment. He keeps this world and you in it alive by the grace of sacrifice of His Son. But keep on prodding.

Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

If God exists, we will all know soon, when we die.

If He doesn’t exist, we may or may not know.

(I believe 100% he exists)

If he does exist and you stand before Him, what will you say?

I see evidence of God in everything, in our world and creation.

I feel comfort from Him when I am low and sad, and read His word, and pray.

Although it’d be great to have a bluebird land on my shoulder and whisper that God loved me in my ear, I know he does love me, even without “evidence.”

God is going to end all human suffering when Christ returns.
I’d like Christ to return right now, but it’s not up to me. It’s God’s timeline, truly.

If you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior you will no longer be separated from God by sin and live eternally in heaven, beyond pain and human suffering, worshipping Our Creator in perfect peace and happiness. That’s what my religion teaches. It’s never taught me I would not be sad, never be sick and suffer, etc. God isn’t about humans living perfectly content and well. When Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, humankind was cursed and our perfect lives taken away.

Through struggles and pain, and also joy, we learn obedience to God. Through His Son’s sacrifice, we are granted redemption.

If the Bible taught we were to live lives of happiness and perfection on earth for accepting Jesus and believing in God and we didn’t, I could see why people would question God.

But nowhere, ever, had God promised that.

Those who reject God and Jesus, I get it. My daughter is a nurse in ICU and is a Christian. She even questions why the terrible things that happen, happen to us. It’s hard to keep your eyes on the big picture of God’s promise sometimes.

But if you accept God, and Jesus, you know no matter what happens, their love and promise awaits you.

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He owes you no explanation and "justice" according to your reality. He is so omnipotent and outside of this reality that you perceive that He can strike you and me dissapeared forever in one moment. He keeps this world and you in it alive by the grace of sacrifice of His Son. But keep on prodding.

Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

God owes you no "evidence". Don't you understand that? You are nothing compared to God.

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
John 20:29

Anonymous wrote:
He owes you no explanation and "justice" according to your reality. He is so omnipotent and outside of this reality that you perceive that He can strike you and me dissapeared forever in one moment. He keeps this world and you in it alive by the grace of sacrifice of His Son. But keep on prodding.

Show me one bit of evidence of this and I will bow before him.

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Like the PP said, Jesus/God was born into this world to understand it from a human point. It was, and remains, horrible and beautiful. God didn't give that baby cancer or give it the mother that tried to kill it. All of us are on a spiritual journey, and all this we "see" or "experience" is not final or eternity or even the truth. That tortured soul, physically or mentally, will pass from this experience to another. Is it Heaven? Is it to be reborn? We don't know. We will never know for sure. I believe this is all part of the experience of being human. It gives us power and freedom, and we are responsible for what happens in this world, and the next.
Anyway, that's my view. My God is an awesome God.

This is literally a string of words that make no sense.

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Hence why the discussion with atheists and those that are "spiritual but not religious" is useless. They have no basic knowledge of the Bible and get angry at what they heard second hand (without reading and understanding the Bible for themselves). Someone posted in the pets forum about getting a pomerian. Will I comment to add my two cents? No. Do I want to know something about pomeranians? Yes. How ill I do that? I will google all that there is about pomerians, borrow books from the library, and go hang out with owners of pomerians to see how it's to own a pomerian on day to day basis. Otherwise I will keep my mouth shut and not make a fool of myself.

First let me point out that it is you comparing discussion of this critically important topic to that of owning a pomeranian.

Second let me point out that many, if not most atheists have studied the bible closely, which is why they abandoned Christianity.

Third let me ask why your holy book should be accepted without corresponding evidence but not the holy books of the 3,000 or so other religions in the world? The title of and most points in this thread have referred to god generically. The forum is "Religion" not Christianity. Why does the bible have any relevance to the question at all?

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Anonymous wrote:It's all in the Bible. Just because God doesn't work on your timeline doesn't mean he's not loving, omnipotent or even extant.

It's not about my timeline. It's that he designed this all for many to suffer that means he's not loving, omnipotent or even extant.

He owes you no explanation and "justice" according to your reality. He is so omnipotent and outside of this reality that you perceive that He can strike you and me dissapeared forever in one moment. He keeps this world and you in it alive by the grace of sacrifice of His Son. But keep on prodding.

Anonymous wrote:It's all in the Bible. Just because God doesn't work on your timeline doesn't mean he's not loving, omnipotent or even extant.

It's not about my timeline. It's that he designed this all for many to suffer that means he's not loving, omnipotent or even extant.