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Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

Start small. Go from there. Like you said, ittiudk make a big change in the lives of 600+ at-risk kids. That alone should make it worth doing. That it wouldn't be a huge sea change in any one School is a feature not a bug.

The point isn't that it's not a sea change in any one school, it's that it's not a meaningful solution to the problem of concentrated pAdd anoverty.

That's fine. There are many pieces to this puzzle. This is something we can do relatively easily, and we should.

Why do you think it is easy to add that many students to schools that already have trailers?

Because it isn't that many kids and the upper grades at the WOTP elementaries see incredible attrition from high income families.

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Was there something in the paper that I missed about a 10% cap or trigger for the preference or is this your personal solution?

10% was the number proposed during the last boundary review.

I think somebody just threw 10% out. Here's the recommendations from the boundary review - you'll see 25% or less is the trigger.

Placement Priorities for Students Designated “At Risk”

Recommendation 23: Starting in SY2016–2017, any DCPS zoned, DCPS citywide (nonselective)
and public charter school that has a student body consisting of 25 percent or less at-risk
students shall give priority to “at-risk” students for 25 percent of available seats in the lottery for a
given year.

Implementing this recommendation for public charter schools will require a change in law and
engagement with additional stakeholders.

Recommendation 24: Starting in SY2016–2017, DCPS selective schools shall provide a
priority for at-risk students who meet the admissions criteria for the selective school. Prior to
implementation, DCPS should convene appropriate stakeholders, including community members,
parents, students, and school staff (including those from selective schools) to determine the details
of this policy.

The MySchool DC Report correctly uses 25%.

And from the report, here's the list of schools that meet the 25% or less at-risk -

Appendix B – Schools that qualified for the at-risk preference
? AppleTree Early Learning PCS –Lincoln Park
? BASIS DC PCS
? Breakthrough Montessori PCS
? Brent Elementary School
? Capitol Hill Montessori School @Logan
? Creative Minds International PCS
? Deal Middle School
? District of Columbia International School (Chinese Language Program)*
? District of Columbia International School (French Language Program)*
? District of Columbia International School (Spanish Language Program)*
? Eaton Elementary School
? Elsie Whitlow Stokes Community Freedom PCS (French Language Program)*
? Elsie Whitlow Stokes Community Freedom PCS (Spanish Language Program)*
? Hardy Middle School
? Hearst Elementary School
? Hyde-Addison Elementary School
? Inspired Teaching Demonstration PCS
? Janney Elementary School
? Key Elementary School
? Lafayette Elementary School
? Lee Montessori PCS
? Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School
? Mann Elementary School
? Maury Elementary School
? Mundo Verde Bilingual PCS
? Murch Elementary School
? Oyster-Adams Bilingual School (Adams)*
? Oyster-Adams Bilingual School (Oyster)*
? Oyster-Adams Bilingual School (Oyster) - English Dominant*
? Oyster-Adams Bilingual School (Oyster) - Spanish Dominant*
? Peabody Elementary School
? Ross Elementary School
? School Without Walls @ FrancisStevens
? School-Within-School
? Sela PCS
? Shepherd Elementary School
? Shining Stars Montessori Academy PCS
? Stoddert Elementary School
? Two Rivers PCS at 4th Street
? Two Rivers PCS at Young
? Van Ness Elementary School
? Washington Latin PCS – Middle School
? Washington Latin PCS – Upper School
? Washington Yu Ying PCS
? Watkins Elementary School
? Wilson High School

*These are separate school selections in
the My School DC application, but are
shown as one campus in the OSSE
Audited Enrollment File.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

Start small. Go from there. Like you said, ittiudk make a big change in the lives of 600+ at-risk kids. That alone should make it worth doing. That it wouldn't be a huge sea change in any one School is a feature not a bug.

The point isn't that it's not a sea change in any one school, it's that it's not a meaningful solution to the problem of concentrated poverty.

That's fine. There are many pieces to this puzzle. This is something we can do relatively easily, and we should.

Why do you think it is easy to add that many students to schools that already have trailers?

It would not be that mamy. In preschool, it would mean placing at-risk IB ahead of non-at-risk IB students. They are all still IB.

If a school is really so crowded, the boundary should be changed. It isn't a good enough reason to avoid taking a fair share of at-risk kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

Start small. Go from there. Like you said, ittiudk make a big change in the lives of 600+ at-risk kids. That alone should make it worth doing. That it wouldn't be a huge sea change in any one School is a feature not a bug.

The point isn't that it's not a sea change in any one school, it's that it's not a meaningful solution to the problem of concentrated poverty.

That's fine. There are many pieces to this puzzle. This is something we can do relatively easily, and we should.

This is a half-baked scheme that won't solve anything and will divert resources from where they're really needed and sow confusion.

Yes. Thank you that’s what I said about five pages back. It will also consume a lot of political will better directed at other solutions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

Start small. Go from there. Like you said, ittiudk make a big change in the lives of 600+ at-risk kids. That alone should make it worth doing. That it wouldn't be a huge sea change in any one School is a feature not a bug.

The point isn't that it's not a sea change in any one school, it's that it's not a meaningful solution to the problem of concentrated poverty.

That's fine. There are many pieces to this puzzle. This is something we can do relatively easily, and we should.

This is a half-baked scheme that won't solve anything and will divert resources from where they're really needed and sow confusion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

Start small. Go from there. Like you said, ittiudk make a big change in the lives of 600+ at-risk kids. That alone should make it worth doing. That it wouldn't be a huge sea change in any one School is a feature not a bug.

The point isn't that it's not a sea change in any one school, it's that it's not a meaningful solution to the problem of concentrated poverty.

That's fine. There are many pieces to this puzzle. This is something we can do relatively easily, and we should.

Why do you think it is easy to add that many students to schools that already have trailers?

People are connect 2+2 - and maybe getting 5.

The paper just explored what would have happened if two variants of an at-risk preference had been in palce for this year's lottery.

On the policy side, there has been a 10% set aside recommendation for DCPS on the books since the DME boiundary task force; it has never been implemented.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

There would be a follow-on effect in later years as those kids' siblings began to take advantage of sibling preference. And the very slight nudging of high-income kids into less desirable schools might positively impact those schools.

I'm not sure I follow. The siblings would still count toward the 10% at-risk, they'd just be taking seats from other at-risk kids.

The point is that the sibling effect could put some schools over the 10% mark after a few years of getting established.

At which point the preference would go away until the school was back below 10%.

Was there something in the paper that I missed about a 10% cap or trigger for the preference or is this your personal solution?

10% was the number proposed during the last boundary review.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

There would be a follow-on effect in later years as those kids' siblings began to take advantage of sibling preference. And the very slight nudging of high-income kids into less desirable schools might positively impact those schools.

I'm not sure I follow. The siblings would still count toward the 10% at-risk, they'd just be taking seats from other at-risk kids.

The point is that the sibling effect could put some schools over the 10% mark after a few years of getting established.

At which point the preference would go away until the school was back below 10%.

Was there something in the paper that I missed about a 10% cap or trigger for the preference or is this your personal solution?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 16 DCPS and charter schools 10% or less at-risk students now (based on the 2018-19 enrollment audit). Adult-ed or alternative programs are not included.

A question mark means that there are fewer than 10 at-risk students enrolled, so a percentage cannot be calculated. https://osse.dc.gov/node/1306796

Brent 4.2% at risk
Deal 6.7%
Eaton 6.0%
Eliot Hine 4%
Hearst 6%
Janney ?
Key ?
Lafayette 2.8%
Maury 2.2%
Mann ?
Murch 4.1%
Oyster-Adams 10%
Peabody ?
Ross ?
School within a School ?
Stoddert 3.4%

BASIS DC 8.5%
LAMB 9%
Lee Montessori 10%
Mundo Verde 9.1%
Washington Latin MS 6.2%
Yu Ying PCS 4.4%

Thanks for posting this, it's good to have some real numbers to work on. I went to the link you posted and worked with the numbers. I got 15 schools that are currently below 10%, including five with fewer than 10 students. They are:
Brent Elementary School
Deal Middle School
Eaton Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Janney Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School @ UDC
Peabody Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster)
Roosevelt STAY High School
Ross Elementary School
School-Within-School @ Goding
Stoddert Elementary School

For simplicity's sake i just treated the schools below 10 as if they had zero. Those 15 schools currently have 7696 students and 281 at-risk. To get them all to 10% they'd have to have 770 students at-risk, or 489 more.

Overall DCPS has 20,963 at-risk students, 45% of the student body. Those 489 represent slightly over 2% of the students at risk. I'm sure that for those kids it would make a big change in their lives, but it's hard to see how this initiative makes a meaningful dent in the problem.

There would be a follow-on effect in later years as those kids' siblings began to take advantage of sibling preference. And the very slight nudging of high-income kids into less desirable schools might positively impact those schools.

High income families don’t stay in less desireable schools.

The way a school becomes desirable is that a progressively larger number of high-income families stay there for longer and longer, and work on it while they're there. They don't have to stay forever.