Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 12:04     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Anonymous wrote:Forbes Best Value Colleges:

UVA = #21
UC = #74

'nuff said.

https://www.forbes.com/value-colleges/list/


Why no. Even if everyone agreed that ROI was the best metric for evaluating the “value” of an education, there’s still the issue that the “I” will vary dramatically from family to family (in state vs OOS tuition, FA). And, of course, the “R” will depend on the student’s abilities and aspirations.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:58     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Forbes Best Value Colleges:

UVA = #21
UC = #74

'nuff said.

https://www.forbes.com/value-colleges/list/
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:46     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
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Anonymous wrote:As tough to get into these days yes but not nearly as enjoyable once you get there. A total joyless grind.


My DC and friends are having a blast there.


For $75000 per year, Chicago should throw in an annual passport to Disneyland so kids can have a blast on parents' dime.



Nah, not needed. They have Chicago music, bars, food, festivals and a beach.


So does UVA with similar outcomes.


Charlottesville vs Chicago?????


Yeah, the anti-UChicago trolling has gotten extreme if you guys are trying to tell us Charlottlesville is a comparable city to Chicago. Over 60 million people come to Chicago for vacation per year, contributing nearly $14 billion to the city. Why? Because Chicago has a tremendous amount to offer.

Charlottesville is a nice small city (there are 46,000 people) but to treat the two as comparable is crazy.



Similar career destination and income outcome for less.


Except not. The vast majority of Chicago's depts. are ranked higher than UVA's, which translates into national prestige.


Except Chicago grads make only about $5000 more per year than UVA grads per payscale and govt stats. Hard to justify a $300000 tuition with that kind of outcome.


For you, perhaps. But no one is asking you to send your kid to Chicago or to explain why you aren’t. For me, it is easy to justify but I have a different kid, different values, different resources so what makes sense for my family probably doesn’t for yours. But there’s a difference between hard (for you) to justify and unjustifiable.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:29     Subject: Re:Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
You don't have to justify why you were or are at UVA. Own it.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:26     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Ok, let's look at this employability ranking, which was done by an HR Consultancy and looks at the universities hiring managers at top companies consider the best preparation for jobs at their companies.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/graduate-employability-top-universities-united-states-ranked-employers

UChicago comes in at #18. UVA is not in the rankings at all (it goes to 150 for the full list).
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:18     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
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Anonymous wrote:As tough to get into these days yes but not nearly as enjoyable once you get there. A total joyless grind.


My DC and friends are having a blast there.


For $75000 per year, Chicago should throw in an annual passport to Disneyland so kids can have a blast on parents' dime.



Nah, not needed. They have Chicago music, bars, food, festivals and a beach.


So does UVA with similar outcomes.


Charlottesville vs Chicago?????


Yeah, the anti-UChicago trolling has gotten extreme if you guys are trying to tell us Charlottlesville is a comparable city to Chicago. Over 60 million people come to Chicago for vacation per year, contributing nearly $14 billion to the city. Why? Because Chicago has a tremendous amount to offer.

Charlottesville is a nice small city (there are 46,000 people) but to treat the two as comparable is crazy.



Similar career destination and income outcome for less.


Except not. The vast majority of Chicago's depts. are ranked higher than UVA's, which translates into national prestige.


Except Chicago grads make only about $5000 more per year than UVA grads per payscale and govt stats. Hard to justify a $300000 tuition with that kind of outcome.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:17     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
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Anonymous wrote:As tough to get into these days yes but not nearly as enjoyable once you get there. A total joyless grind.


My DC and friends are having a blast there.


For $75000 per year, Chicago should throw in an annual passport to Disneyland so kids can have a blast on parents' dime.



Nah, not needed. They have Chicago music, bars, food, festivals and a beach.


So does UVA with similar outcomes.


Charlottesville vs Chicago?????


Yeah, the anti-UChicago trolling has gotten extreme if you guys are trying to tell us Charlottlesville is a comparable city to Chicago. Over 60 million people come to Chicago for vacation per year, contributing nearly $14 billion to the city. Why? Because Chicago has a tremendous amount to offer.

Charlottesville is a nice small city (there are 46,000 people) but to treat the two as comparable is crazy.



Similar career destination and income outcome for less.


How hard is this? If you can’t tell or don’t value the difference, don’t go to Chicago. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a difference.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:14     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, specifically with regard to targeting “normal” outgoing prep school students. Is it now a peer to HYPS to prep school families?


When did U of C start slumming?


Thanks for making me laugh hard. Good one
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:12     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Anonymous wrote:I keep reading Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, specifically with regard to targeting “normal” outgoing prep school students. Is it now a peer to HYPS to prep school families?


When did U of C start slumming?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:11     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Anonymous wrote:Didn't John Wayne Gacy go to Chicago?


Actually, his brain did — but only post-execution.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:10     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Anonymous wrote:Didn't John Wayne Gacy go to Chicago?


1. No.

2. The Unabomber went to Harvard.

What's your point?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:09     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Anonymous wrote:Didn't John Wayne Gacy go to Chicago?


No, but Leopold and Loeb did.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:05     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
Didn't John Wayne Gacy go to Chicago?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:00     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
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Anonymous wrote:As tough to get into these days yes but not nearly as enjoyable once you get there. A total joyless grind.


My DC and friends are having a blast there.


For $75000 per year, Chicago should throw in an annual passport to Disneyland so kids can have a blast on parents' dime.



Nah, not needed. They have Chicago music, bars, food, festivals and a beach.


So does UVA with similar outcomes.


Charlottesville vs Chicago?????


Yeah, the anti-UChicago trolling has gotten extreme if you guys are trying to tell us Charlottlesville is a comparable city to Chicago. Over 60 million people come to Chicago for vacation per year, contributing nearly $14 billion to the city. Why? Because Chicago has a tremendous amount to offer.

Charlottesville is a nice small city (there are 46,000 people) but to treat the two as comparable is crazy.



Similar career destination and income outcome for less.


Except not. The vast majority of Chicago's depts. are ranked higher than UVA's, which translates into national prestige.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 10:57     Subject: Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?
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Anonymous wrote:As tough to get into these days yes but not nearly as enjoyable once you get there. A total joyless grind.


My DC and friends are having a blast there.


For $75000 per year, Chicago should throw in an annual passport to Disneyland so kids can have a blast on parents' dime.



Nah, not needed. They have Chicago music, bars, food, festivals and a beach.


So does UVA with similar outcomes.


Charlottesville vs Chicago?????


Yeah, the anti-UChicago trolling has gotten extreme if you guys are trying to tell us Charlottlesville is a comparable city to Chicago. Over 60 million people come to Chicago for vacation per year, contributing nearly $14 billion to the city. Why? Because Chicago has a tremendous amount to offer.

Charlottesville is a nice small city (there are 46,000 people) but to treat the two as comparable is crazy.



Similar career destination and income outcome for less.