Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the parents, but benedryl for the kid for a flight that long would have been helpful for everyone.

I once gave my daughter Benadryl for an evening flight, had even tested it beforehand and it appeared to have a sedating effect. However, that evening the drug did not work and she was a terror. I tried but it didn't work.

Its a horrible idea to give Benadryl as it has the opposite effect on young kids and can make them hyper. You put them in a car seat and entertain them. If anything, you give ibuprofen or something for the ears.

When kids are screaming that much, they may be in pain with ear pressure and you give them something for it, something to suck on and monitor it. You do not allow your child to roam about and climb the seats. You bring a car seat, strap them in and try your best to entertain him. I don't have an issue with the screaming so much as the wondering around. That child should have been in his car seat. If he was kicking the seat in front, you turn the seat rear facing so he cannot kick the seat. This is called parenting. You bring snacks, iPad (mom had one), toys and other stuff and be prepared. MOM did not have this kid strapped in nor did she make an effort to deal with it. Just because a child is screaming does not mean SN or autism. I have a SN child. No way he would act like that for that long. He was always in a car seat and we were prepared. At worst, when he was a baby, which is different, he screamed on take off and landing for a few minutes. SN or not, you put the child in the car seat strapped in and this movement isn't an issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And everyone on the flight survived! What a time to be alive!

Be thankful you don’t have a child like that. Have compassion for the parents, who have as much right as you do to be there. Put your headphones on and take a nap. You probably annoyed the hell out of someone at one point as a child.

I think you're missing the point. Had everyone been told there was a child with SN on the flight, and that it might be disruptive, and that they greatly appreciated everyone's patience, I imagine the reactions would have been totally different. People can be amazingly compassionate when faced with a situation like a SN child. I bet many of the passengers would have tried engaging the boy and seeing him in a completely different light if they had known he was SN (if, indeed, he was). But most likely, they thought he was just a spoiled kid whose parents weren't making any effort to rein him in. That's enough to make anyone mad.

The parents should have asked the flight crew to announce the situation and I bet the other passengers, while weary and tired, would have tried to make the best of it.

Seriously?

Not if the ole DCUM Club was on board, based on these comments.

Ok to call a potential SN kid an "animal" as a pp did?

Surely you kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t watch the video but I feel sorry for the parents and all of the passengers. It sounds like this child had some issues and everyone had a miserable time.

When DS was a toddler he screamed for 5 hours straight on an entire flight. We couldn’t do anything to calm him and we tried everything including walking him up and down the isle, having him play with the lights and window, junk food treats, videos, books, toys, etc. It was horrible. We found out after we got home he had an ear infection and we didn’t know. DS is now a teen and every time we fly he quietly complains to me about loud or misbehaving children. I remind him of that flight. I don’t think he was a safety concern but he surely annoyed everyone for the entire flight.

Me too.

My daughter was just shy of two and we were flying from Brussels to Tel Avuv. I'd packed snacks, stickers, new toys to bring out progressively through the flight, and "trained" her to watch videos on my phone. No dice. She destroyed everything, kicked seats, yelled at the top of her lungs. I was shaking and crying with embarrassment and frustration. I tried to do everything "right" and it still didn't work.

I hear you PP! Kids are little unpredictable pieces of work, including my own

Anonymous wrote:I flew on a 10 hr flight with my very sweet, calm 18 month old. He cried and wailed the entire 10 hours. I had playdogh pencils toys ipad but nothing would calm him down. Interestingly he was perfectly fine on the way back.

Poor you!! I remember Nicole Kidman saying "I don't care who you are. Board a plane with kids and you get the same looks".

Something must've been up with ears, etc. You never know what's going to set off a little one.

Anonymous wrote:Watch the video. He starts screaming even before they leave the gate. It's awful--I think I would have lost my mind. Even if the kid did have a developmental delay or SN (and it's not clear that he did), nobody was doing anything to redirect, distract, etc.

I can't tell you how many children I have helped entertain on flights. I've donated my iPad, played games with them, etc.

I flew on a 10 hr flight with my very sweet, calm 18 month old. He cried and wailed the entire 10 hours. I had playdogh pencils toys ipad but nothing would calm him down. Interestingly he was perfectly fine on the way back.

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the parents, but benedryl for the kid for a flight that long would have been helpful for everyone.

I once gave my daughter Benadryl for an evening flight, had even tested it beforehand and it appeared to have a sedating effect. However, that evening the drug did not work and she was a terror. I tried but it didn't work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t watch the video but I feel sorry for the parents and all of the passengers. It sounds like this child had some issues and everyone had a miserable time.

When DS was a toddler he screamed for 5 hours straight on an entire flight. We couldn’t do anything to calm him and we tried everything including walking him up and down the isle, having him play with the lights and window, junk food treats, videos, books, toys, etc. It was horrible. We found out after we got home he had an ear infection and we didn’t know. DS is now a teen and every time we fly he quietly complains to me about loud or misbehaving children. I remind him of that flight. I don’t think he was a safety concern but he surely annoyed everyone for the entire flight.

Me too.

My daughter was just shy of two and we were flying from Brussels to Tel Avuv. I'd packed snacks, stickers, new toys to bring out progressively through the flight, and "trained" her to watch videos on my phone. No dice. She destroyed everything, kicked seats, yelled at the top of her lungs. I was shaking and crying with embarrassment and frustration. I tried to do everything "right" and it still didn't work.

I've been there too, and my child is usually shy and quiet. Screamed and alternately thrashed and did the "stiff as a board" thing while we tried to restrain her-thankfully it was only BWI to CHI.

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t watch the video but I feel sorry for the parents and all of the passengers. It sounds like this child had some issues and everyone had a miserable time.

When DS was a toddler he screamed for 5 hours straight on an entire flight. We couldn’t do anything to calm him and we tried everything including walking him up and down the isle, having him play with the lights and window, junk food treats, videos, books, toys, etc. It was horrible. We found out after we got home he had an ear infection and we didn’t know. DS is now a teen and every time we fly he quietly complains to me about loud or misbehaving children. I remind him of that flight. I don’t think he was a safety concern but he surely annoyed everyone for the entire flight.

Me too.

My daughter was just shy of two and we were flying from Brussels to Tel Avuv. I'd packed snacks, stickers, new toys to bring out progressively through the flight, and "trained" her to watch videos on my phone. No dice. She destroyed everything, kicked seats, yelled at the top of her lungs. I was shaking and crying with embarrassment and frustration. I tried to do everything "right" and it still didn't work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is sad. Put in your earphones and watch a film.

You over estimate the power of earphones, and under estimate his screaming.

You must be a very important road warrior type. A very important person traveling to very important meetings.

So important, that a special needs child interrupting your relaxation would indeed, be "demonic."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is sad. Put in your earphones and watch a film.

You over estimate the power of earphones, and under estimate his screaming.

You must be a very important road warrior type. A very important person traveling to very important meetings.

Anonymous wrote:This is sad. Put in your earphones and watch a film.

You over estimate the power of earphones, and under estimate his screaming.

Mother and son should have been escorted off the plane since the tantrum started before takeoff.

This is sad. Put in your earphones and watch a film.