Anonymous
10/26/2017 09:32
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:My "neighborhood school, " a mile from one of our two Hill properties, is more than 75% OOB. The DCPS where I send my kids (we enroll using the address of a property we let relatives stay in) is less than 1/3 OOB. The school we use is across the street from the property where we sleep most nights.
Call us hypocrites for defining our beloved hood of 25 years on our terms, vs. those of a DCPS bureaucrats who drew school boundaries lines in 1960s.
We know of half a dozen other families in the school community owning multiple properties locally who've made similar arrangements. I'm aware that a couple have been investigated over the years, after fellow parents called the fraud hotline. They're still in the school.
Few local high SES parents here seem to have much faith in DCPS. Hardly anybody plans to stay in the system for MS. Lack of respect for system leaders and their rules shapes our thinking about residency. There's little trust, and hardly any buy-in past ES. We'll be in charters and privates from 6th grade.
It's less of an issue for a school with significant OOB that's not in high demand. It's worse when people cheat to go to high-demand schools, pushing out people who play by the rules (eg, lottery) and contributing to overcrowding.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 09:32
Subject: Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
We had home visits for both pk and k for desirable nw dc school. Also parents figure out where you live. If you cheat - prepare to be looking over your back the entire time. Keep in mind kids talk too and can tell friends teachers and admin that they live far away. I really wouldn't recommmend it.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 09:29
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Similar situation for us, though our children are too young for school. We're on 6th NE., one block from Peabody, but ib for a school many blocks away.
The weird boot shaped Cluster boundary is part of the problem. It screams for creative residency.
The weird boot shaped Cluster boundary is part of the problem. It screams for creative residency.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 09:24
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
My "neighborhood school, " a mile from one of our two Hill properties, is more than 75% OOB. The DCPS where I send my kids (we enroll using the address of a property we let relatives stay in) is less than 1/3 OOB. The school we use is across the street from the property where we sleep most nights.
Call us hypocrites for defining our beloved hood of 25 years on our terms, vs. those of a DCPS bureaucrats who drew school boundaries lines in 1960s.
We know of half a dozen other families in the school community owning multiple properties locally who've made similar arrangements. I'm aware that a couple have been investigated over the years, after fellow parents called the fraud hotline. They're still in the school.
Few local high SES parents here seem to have much faith in DCPS. Hardly anybody plans to stay in the system for MS. Lack of respect for system leaders and their rules shapes our thinking about residency. There's little trust, and hardly any buy-in past ES. We'll be in charters and privates from 6th grade.
Call us hypocrites for defining our beloved hood of 25 years on our terms, vs. those of a DCPS bureaucrats who drew school boundaries lines in 1960s.
We know of half a dozen other families in the school community owning multiple properties locally who've made similar arrangements. I'm aware that a couple have been investigated over the years, after fellow parents called the fraud hotline. They're still in the school.
Few local high SES parents here seem to have much faith in DCPS. Hardly anybody plans to stay in the system for MS. Lack of respect for system leaders and their rules shapes our thinking about residency. There's little trust, and hardly any buy-in past ES. We'll be in charters and privates from 6th grade.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 08:53
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People in Upper NW don't get it They'd much rather make blanket statements about criminal address cheaters. Some of us in NE and SE value social continuity in our dense residential neighborhoods highly.
You value social continuity but not the neighborhood school, which is a center of social and community life?
Right.
I was thinking the same thing. They all pride themselves on being the pioneers and gentrifiers, but when it really counts (their kids mixing with the neighborhood kids) then it's "let's cheat and get into the "good schools." Hypocrites.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 07:44
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:People in Upper NW don't get it They'd much rather make blanket statements about criminal address cheaters. Some of us in NE and SE value social continuity in our dense residential neighborhoods highly.
You value social continuity but not the neighborhood school, which is a center of social and community life?
Right.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 07:27
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
People in Upper NW don't get it They'd much rather make blanket statements about criminal address cheaters. Some of us in NE and SE value social continuity in our dense residential neighborhoods highly.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 06:12
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
You're railing at the wrong people. DCPS has been poorly led for decades. Boundary cheaters exist because good neighborhood schools are found near awful ones, with the good and awful sometimes trading places.
For example, 10 or 15 years ago, Cap Hill families would buy houses IB for the Capitol Cluster, so their kids could attend Watkins at a time when the IB and high SES %s were more than double what they are now. There was no viable PS alternative in NE or SE. Flash forward and Watkins appeals to few IB. Some longtime Cluster district families rent apartments IB for Brent or Maury, or even buy 2nd properties. Many of us say far better that they stay than go charter, or move to the burbs or Upper NW, in the face of DCPS' inept management of Watkins.
For example, 10 or 15 years ago, Cap Hill families would buy houses IB for the Capitol Cluster, so their kids could attend Watkins at a time when the IB and high SES %s were more than double what they are now. There was no viable PS alternative in NE or SE. Flash forward and Watkins appeals to few IB. Some longtime Cluster district families rent apartments IB for Brent or Maury, or even buy 2nd properties. Many of us say far better that they stay than go charter, or move to the burbs or Upper NW, in the face of DCPS' inept management of Watkins.
Anonymous
10/26/2017 01:17
Subject: Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Every single one of the shaming posts so far have only shown how little of a care any boundary cheater should have.
The chancellor enabled boundary cheaters.The deputy mayor is in their ranks. Everyone else can cheat with a clean conscience.
The chancellor enabled boundary cheaters.The deputy mayor is in their ranks. Everyone else can cheat with a clean conscience.
Anonymous
10/25/2017 22:33
Subject: Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why have you decided your "conscience is clean" before knowing the rules?
My conscience is clean because I'm currently supporting the public school system through my substantial tax contributions, which is just fine by me, and I'm willing to continue doing it, but I'd like to also get some benefit from it. I do OK in terms of income, and I choose to live in an "up-and-coming" part of the city, because I don't believe in well-off people segregating themselves in their Georgetown or Kalorama islands of privilege. I want my daughter to be exposed to a richer, more diverse social environment than she currently gets at her $4K/month private school, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the quality of her education. If I can spend $1,500 on rent instead, and send her to a good public school that I'm already paying for, I won't feel an ounce of guilt about it.
OP please be sure to talk about "well-off people segregating themselves in their islands of privilege" with the families at the school you are going to cheat to get into, that will go over well. Newsflash-- most of these people chose to live in the neighborhood solely based on the schools, not because they want to segregate themselves. We'd all love there to be a magical neighborhood with a diverse population, a metro stop, cool bars and restaurants, and awesome schools, but it doesn't exist. So you give up certain things to get your top priority. In our case, that was education. You have chosen other priorities but now want to cheat to get the education. Doesn't work that way.
Anonymous
10/25/2017 22:09
Subject: Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
OP, I'm sure the Deputy Mayor Courtney Snowden has a clean conscience as well, so I don't see why you should feel guilty for being a boundary cheat just like her.
Anonymous
10/25/2017 20:51
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's a little disconcerting how many of you seem unfazed by the idea of cheating the system. So much for civil society.
I do see who’s in the White House, right? Why are you surprised my anything. This country is rotten from the head down.
Saw this line coming, but once it was clear that Geithner cheated on his taxes and not only would get away with it, but that nobody who matters even thought it was a big deal, I vowed to never pay full price again. That mindset extends to things like boundary cheating. I say go for it.
Sad!
Anonymous
10/25/2017 20:43
Subject: Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:OP, rent the apartment and enroll with that address. Actually live there for a few months. Then move back to your house and change your address with the school. DCPS changed its rules. You can live in boundary and attend as inboundary but then you can move (while staying in the District) and continue at the school.
So long as your kid is past K. Doesn’t work before then.
Anonymous
10/25/2017 20:29
Subject: Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
OP, rent the apartment and enroll with that address. Actually live there for a few months. Then move back to your house and change your address with the school. DCPS changed its rules. You can live in boundary and attend as inboundary but then you can move (while staying in the District) and continue at the school.
Anonymous
10/25/2017 20:28
Subject: Re:Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's a little disconcerting how many of you seem unfazed by the idea of cheating the system. So much for civil society.
I do see who’s in the White House, right? Why are you surprised my anything. This country is rotten from the head down.
Saw this line coming, but once it was clear that Geithner cheated on his taxes and not only would get away with it, but that nobody who matters even thought it was a big deal, I vowed to never pay full price again. That mindset extends to things like boundary cheating. I say go for it.