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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile the FISA warrant on Manafort expired last year and Obama (via Lynch) renewed it after Trump won the election. So the wiretap of Trump Tower is true!

No, it is not

Really?

"CNN reported Monday multiple intelligence community officials confirmed Manafort was under surveillance due to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, court order for an FBI investigation into the consulting work. The wiretap ended at some point during 2016 due to a lack of evidence against Manafort. However, the FISA court issued a renewed order for surveillance on Manafort that began again late in 2016 and continued at least through the beginning of this year."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-wire-tapped-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-report/article/2634824

What Trump said is that Obama ordered a "wire tapp" on HIM PERSONALLY. That is not what happened. I realize that you Trump lovers have a tenuous relationship with facts and truth and accuracy and all that. But this is NOT what Trump was tweeting about.

Wrong again...

"Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2017%2Fmar%2F21%2Ftimeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge%2F

No, YOU are wrong. Obama didn't have Trump's wires tapped. Read what you wrote and compare it to the facts of the article. YOU ARE WRONG.

Did Obama's DOJ request that the FISA court extend the wire tap of Manafort? Yes...

/thread

The FBI requested surveillance on a US citizen, that evidence was so compelling, a US FISA court of law granted it, twice.

/thread
/manafort
/Russian meddling

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile the FISA warrant on Manafort expired last year and Obama (via Lynch) renewed it after Trump won the election. So the wiretap of Trump Tower is true!

No, it is not

Really?

"CNN reported Monday multiple intelligence community officials confirmed Manafort was under surveillance due to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, court order for an FBI investigation into the consulting work. The wiretap ended at some point during 2016 due to a lack of evidence against Manafort. However, the FISA court issued a renewed order for surveillance on Manafort that began again late in 2016 and continued at least through the beginning of this year."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-wire-tapped-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-report/article/2634824

What Trump said is that Obama ordered a "wire tapp" on HIM PERSONALLY. That is not what happened. I realize that you Trump lovers have a tenuous relationship with facts and truth and accuracy and all that. But this is NOT what Trump was tweeting about.

Wrong again...

"Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2017%2Fmar%2F21%2Ftimeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge%2F

No, YOU are wrong. Obama didn't have Trump's wires tapped. Read what you wrote and compare it to the facts of the article. YOU ARE WRONG.

Did Obama's DOJ request that the FISA court extend the wire tap of Manafort? Yes...

/thread

You are a moron. /thread

"When you can't attack the message, attack the messenger" - Saul Alinsky

/liberals once the truth comes out

Cannot argue with morons. You guys literally refuse to learn anything new.

Anonymous wrote:Libs, listen to a former judge explain FISA and article 3

If you are using that crackpot as your source, you are doing it wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile the FISA warrant on Manafort expired last year and Obama (via Lynch) renewed it after Trump won the election. So the wiretap of Trump Tower is true!

No, it is not

Really?

"CNN reported Monday multiple intelligence community officials confirmed Manafort was under surveillance due to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, court order for an FBI investigation into the consulting work. The wiretap ended at some point during 2016 due to a lack of evidence against Manafort. However, the FISA court issued a renewed order for surveillance on Manafort that began again late in 2016 and continued at least through the beginning of this year."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-wire-tapped-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-report/article/2634824

What Trump said is that Obama ordered a "wire tapp" on HIM PERSONALLY. That is not what happened. I realize that you Trump lovers have a tenuous relationship with facts and truth and accuracy and all that. But this is NOT what Trump was tweeting about.

Wrong again...

"Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2017%2Fmar%2F21%2Ftimeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge%2F

No, YOU are wrong. Obama didn't have Trump's wires tapped. Read what you wrote and compare it to the facts of the article. YOU ARE WRONG.

Did Obama's DOJ request that the FISA court extend the wire tap of Manafort? Yes...

/thread

You are a moron. /thread

"When you can't attack the message, attack the messenger" - Saul Alinsky

/liberals once the truth comes out

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile the FISA warrant on Manafort expired last year and Obama (via Lynch) renewed it after Trump won the election. So the wiretap of Trump Tower is true!

No, it is not

Really?

"CNN reported Monday multiple intelligence community officials confirmed Manafort was under surveillance due to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, court order for an FBI investigation into the consulting work. The wiretap ended at some point during 2016 due to a lack of evidence against Manafort. However, the FISA court issued a renewed order for surveillance on Manafort that began again late in 2016 and continued at least through the beginning of this year."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-wire-tapped-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-report/article/2634824

What Trump said is that Obama ordered a "wire tapp" on HIM PERSONALLY. That is not what happened. I realize that you Trump lovers have a tenuous relationship with facts and truth and accuracy and all that. But this is NOT what Trump was tweeting about.

Wrong again...

"Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2017%2Fmar%2F21%2Ftimeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge%2F

No, YOU are wrong. Obama didn't have Trump's wires tapped. Read what you wrote and compare it to the facts of the article. YOU ARE WRONG.

Did Obama's DOJ request that the FISA court extend the wire tap of Manafort? Yes...

/thread

You are a moron. /thread

Libs, listen to a former judge explain FISA and article 3

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile the FISA warrant on Manafort expired last year and Obama (via Lynch) renewed it after Trump won the election. So the wiretap of Trump Tower is true!

No, it is not

Really?

"CNN reported Monday multiple intelligence community officials confirmed Manafort was under surveillance due to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, court order for an FBI investigation into the consulting work. The wiretap ended at some point during 2016 due to a lack of evidence against Manafort. However, the FISA court issued a renewed order for surveillance on Manafort that began again late in 2016 and continued at least through the beginning of this year."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-wire-tapped-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-report/article/2634824

What Trump said is that Obama ordered a "wire tapp" on HIM PERSONALLY. That is not what happened. I realize that you Trump lovers have a tenuous relationship with facts and truth and accuracy and all that. But this is NOT what Trump was tweeting about.

Wrong again...

"Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2017%2Fmar%2F21%2Ftimeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge%2F

No, YOU are wrong. Obama didn't have Trump's wires tapped. Read what you wrote and compare it to the facts of the article. YOU ARE WRONG.

Did Obama's DOJ request that the FISA court extend the wire tap of Manafort? Yes...

/thread

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile the FISA warrant on Manafort expired last year and Obama (via Lynch) renewed it after Trump won the election. So the wiretap of Trump Tower is true!

No, it is not

Really?

"CNN reported Monday multiple intelligence community officials confirmed Manafort was under surveillance due to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, court order for an FBI investigation into the consulting work. The wiretap ended at some point during 2016 due to a lack of evidence against Manafort. However, the FISA court issued a renewed order for surveillance on Manafort that began again late in 2016 and continued at least through the beginning of this year."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-wire-tapped-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-report/article/2634824

What Trump said is that Obama ordered a "wire tapp" on HIM PERSONALLY. That is not what happened. I realize that you Trump lovers have a tenuous relationship with facts and truth and accuracy and all that. But this is NOT what Trump was tweeting about.

Wrong again...

"Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politifact.com%2Ftruth-o-meter%2Farticle%2F2017%2Fmar%2F21%2Ftimeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge%2F

No, YOU are wrong. Obama didn't have Trump's wires tapped. Read what you wrote and compare it to the facts of the article. YOU ARE WRONG.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this vindicates Trump. He stated they were wire tapped and the media made fun on him. Turns out he was right. And yet, after all this, still NO collusion.

Valerie Jarrett and Comey should be tried concitednwnd jailed for treason

To be fair, Trump wasn't wiretapped, Manafort was. And do you know why? Because he was colluding with the Russians, with Trump's approval, to win the election. So I guess you can say the President was vindicated while also likely implicated on tape, colluding with a foreign adversary to take the election.

So. Much. Winning.

So far of five sources, three say he did ask the Russians to help the Trump campaign, and two say the wording is not clear. The exact wording has not been released/leaked, afaik. And nothing in todays reports indicates anyone but Manafort knew, IIUC.

I too am skeptical that this will stop with Manafort, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. "Patience, grasshopper"

If you think this stops with Manafort, I have a bridge to sell you. Trump is too much of a control freak to be played.

As more and more real solid evidence comes out, I think we are better off keeping the focus on it, and not the circumstantial evidence, however overwhelming the latter is.

Anonymous wrote:[url]Tapping a suspected criminal/spy like Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort,IS NOT tapping Trump Tower. The tap follows Manafort wherever he goes.
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Is that actually true? I thought that a wiretap order needed to be for a specific telephone number. And if that telephone happened to be located in Trump Tower, then...

(No, I am not a fan of Trump, and I think that his wiretap claim is bogus.)

This was in 2016 right? Was Manafort actually using a land line phone at the time?

[url]Tapping a suspected criminal/spy like Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort,IS NOT tapping Trump Tower. The tap follows Manafort wherever he goes.
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Is that actually true? I thought that a wiretap order needed to be for a specific telephone number. And if that telephone happened to be located in Trump Tower, then...

(No, I am not a fan of Trump, and I think that his wiretap claim is bogus.)

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article points out that the FBI did not have him under surveillance from March - sometime in July of 2016 which is exactly when he was working for the Presidential campaign. Too bad.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/19/if-cnns-report-is-correct-the-gap-in-surveilling-manafort-is-the-critical-issue/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.c158b15422f4

Considering that the Brits tipped off the USG to Manafort, I'm going to hazard a guess that they might still have bits and pieces.

The Brits have provided most of the leaks related to the Russia collusion. Yet Trumpsters keep accusing the IC community, Obama holdovers, Mueller's team, etc in an effort to drum up a fake domestic scandal.

Remember, something like 8 different foreign intelligence agencies intercepted communications between Trumps associates and the Russians. Including photographic and video evidence. Look there first for the source of the leaks. Domestic leaks are coming from members of Congress, the Administration itself, and their staffers.

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article points out that the FBI did not have him under surveillance from March - sometime in July of 2016 which is exactly when he was working for the Presidential campaign. Too bad.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/19/if-cnns-report-is-correct-the-gap-in-surveilling-manafort-is-the-critical-issue/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.c158b15422f4

Considering that the Brits tipped off the USG to Manafort, I'm going to hazard a guess that they might still have bits and pieces.

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Anonymous wrote:Who exactly ordered the original wiretapping?

19:33?

The FISA court ordered the surveillance on him.

According to CNN:

The conversations between Manafort and Trump continued after the President took office, long after the FBI investigation into Manafort was publicly known, the sources told CNN. They went on until lawyers for the President and Manafort insisted that they stop, according to the sources.


What a dummy.

"Who exactly" means a name, Dummy.

FISA judges aren't named...

Do you understand how FISA warrants and orders work? Someone presents a request and has to show cause or reason for the order. That person is not ordering the surveillance, only making the request for it.

Thus the correct answer still is "The FISA Court ordered this".

Anonymous wrote:Trump's campaign manager is going to be indicted for crimes that predate the campaign, and all the Trump supporters can do is scream "Wiretapp!"

Fixed