Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:16
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.
Stick to driving on interstate highways, where bikes are banned, and we won't have a problem.
No thanks. I'll give you a wide berth of 6 inches and honk as I veer around you. No problem for me either way.
If you hit someone you will be liable, as that is a violation of the law in all local jurisdictions.
And let's be real, nothing will happen. To me at least.
Are you planning on sticking around after you hit them, or planning a hit and run?
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:16
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bikers are disgusting and the entitlement and lack of concern they show for others is truly staggering.
Because?
Because they block major thoroughfares knowing full well the vast number of people it will inconvenience and cause to be late.
Your car does that too.
My car is capable of keeping up with the speed of traffic, so no it doesn't. Wishful thinking, trike.
It still slows traffic by adding to congestion, and when you do that lovely gridlock thing, its a lot worse.
Absolutely no comparison to the slowness added by one car vs one bike. You're holding up traffic, being deliberately obtuse and smug about it, and then you wonder why cars hate you and honk at you. You get what you give.
I am not smug, and am certainly not deliberately obtuse - and as I said, the places where I ride in the street I am not significantly slowing traffic, and in fact most of my ride removes me from traffic. Again, its a settled fact in transportation that you can fit more cyclists in a growing congested place than more cars.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:15
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.
Stick to driving on interstate highways, where bikes are banned, and we won't have a problem.
No thanks. I'll give you a wide berth of 6 inches and honk as I veer around you. No problem for me either way.
If you hit someone you will be liable, as that is a violation of the law in all local jurisdictions.
And let's be real, nothing will happen. To me at least.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:14
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is true that you will rarely go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.
My point is that the cyclists I see are clearly NOT on the way to work. They are just exercising. In the middle of the road. During rush hour. It is extremely inconsiderate. Given you aren't going to work so don't have to be anywhere anytime soon, why don't you ride your tricycle to an actual, I don't know, BIKE PATH, so you can roam free among your people???
+100000
Btw, i walk a lot on a bike path which is right by my house, and heaven help those who get in the way of the tricyclists. They will FREAK OUT and try to physically intimidate you into moving.
BUT if a car dishes right back, of course that is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I just don't care anymore. You want to bike on the road, fine. I'll just move my car a few inches to the side and sail past, IDGAF. Tricyclists are the worst people.
I can't speak for tricyclists, as I ride a bicycle (are you referring to little kids, or to folks who ride recumbent bikes)
On trails I call my passes or ring my bell, then go to the far side of the yellow line to pass. Are you perhaps thinking that ringing the bell is an attempt to intimidate you? It is not. It is an attempt to WARN you, so you don't wander into the passing lane (as some pedestrians do)
You being a tricyclist, I guess you won't mind me loudly laying on my horn as a courteous warning to you not to wander into my side of the road (as some tricyclists do)
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:14
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.
Stick to driving on interstate highways, where bikes are banned, and we won't have a problem.
No thanks. I'll give you a wide berth of 6 inches and honk as I veer around you. No problem for me either way.
If you hit someone you will be liable, as that is a violation of the law in all local jurisdictions.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:13
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is true that you will rarely go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.
My point is that the cyclists I see are clearly NOT on the way to work. They are just exercising. In the middle of the road. During rush hour. It is extremely inconsiderate. Given you aren't going to work so don't have to be anywhere anytime soon, why don't you ride your tricycle to an actual, I don't know, BIKE PATH, so you can roam free among your people???
+100000
Btw, i walk a lot on a bike path which is right by my house, and heaven help those who get in the way of the tricyclists. They will FREAK OUT and try to physically intimidate you into moving.
BUT if a car dishes right back, of course that is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I just don't care anymore. You want to bike on the road, fine. I'll just move my car a few inches to the side and sail past, IDGAF. Tricyclists are the worst people.
I can't speak for tricyclists, as I ride a bicycle (are you referring to little kids, or to folks who ride recumbent bikes)
On trails I call my passes or ring my bell, then go to the far side of the yellow line to pass. Are you perhaps thinking that ringing the bell is an attempt to intimidate you? It is not. It is an attempt to WARN you, so you don't wander into the passing lane (as some pedestrians do)
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:12
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is true that you will rarely go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.
My point is that the cyclists I see are clearly NOT on the way to work. They are just exercising. In the middle of the road. During rush hour. It is extremely inconsiderate. Given you aren't going to work so don't have to be anywhere anytime soon, why don't you ride your tricycle to an actual, I don't know, BIKE PATH, so you can roam free among your people???
Have you stopped them to ask? Because if not, I don't know how you can tell whether they are on their way to work or not.
We had a guy in our office who biked to work. He kept his work clothes in the gym locker and showered and changed at the office. You can't tell whether someone is biking to work or no just by what they are carrying.
I get that there are some cyclists who ignore the laws, etc., and I'm not a cyclist, but I'm always surprised by the number of assholes who think that threatening to injure and kill people is not only acceptable, but funny. It's pretty gross, and it takes a lot of energy to stop myself from wishing that they would be injured or killed (in a one-car accident, so no one else gets hurt) while driving around like they own the world. I figure these are the same people who talk on their phones while they drive, speed, and otherwise ignore their fair share of traffic laws. Like, fine, be annoyed by bicyclists, but expressing pleasure at the idea of people getting hurt or killed? You are a garbage person. Period.
Do you live anywhere that cyclists frequent? I live off Persimmon Tree Road in Bethesda. It's a lot of rolling hills that are very attractive to cyclists all week long. The hills mean you don't have a sightline to pass and have to wait til you crest the hill. Some drivers don't realize that you have to wait for the sightline and pass blindly, potentially leading to a head-on collision.
Over the years that I've lived on this road my dislike of cyclists has grown. They are out getting exercise and I'm trying to get somewhere. Mean while alongside the road there is a lovely paved path that is not used by many people. I decided long ago that should an accident situation happen I'm taking out the cyclist and moving to the right rather than risk a head-on collision.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:12
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bikers are disgusting and the entitlement and lack of concern they show for others is truly staggering.
Because?
Because they block major thoroughfares knowing full well the vast number of people it will inconvenience and cause to be late.
Your car does that too.
My car is capable of keeping up with the speed of traffic, so no it doesn't. Wishful thinking, trike.
It still slows traffic by adding to congestion, and when you do that lovely gridlock thing, its a lot worse.
Absolutely no comparison to the slowness added by one car vs one bike. You're holding up traffic, being deliberately obtuse and smug about it, and then you wonder why cars hate you and honk at you. You get what you give.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:11
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Bikers are disgusting and the entitlement and lack of concern they show for others is truly staggering.
What's truly staggering is the idiocy of your comment.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:10
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.
Stick to driving on interstate highways, where bikes are banned, and we won't have a problem.
No thanks. I'll give you a wide berth of 6 inches and honk as I veer around you. No problem for me either way.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:10
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bikers are disgusting and the entitlement and lack of concern they show for others is truly staggering.
Because?
Because they block major thoroughfares knowing full well the vast number of people it will inconvenience and cause to be late.
Your car does that too.
My car is capable of keeping up with the speed of traffic, so no it doesn't. Wishful thinking, trike.
It still slows traffic by adding to congestion, and when you do that lovely gridlock thing, its a lot worse.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:09
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.
Stick to driving on interstate highways, where bikes are banned, and we won't have a problem.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:08
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bikers are disgusting and the entitlement and lack of concern they show for others is truly staggering.
Because?
Because they block major thoroughfares knowing full well the vast number of people it will inconvenience and cause to be late.
Cyclists overall result in less congestion on thoroughfares. The small amount of riding that involves taking the lane on fast roads is dwarfed by the amount of bike commuting on trails, in bike lanes, on streets with low speed limits. Much of the bike commuting that does occur on streets with higher speed limits happens at times when congestion means motor vehicles move so slowly, bikes can easily keep up - indeed one of the advantages of bike lanes is the ability to safely scoot around stopped traffic.
I have zero issue with bicyclists that sack to bike lanes and trails. That's fine. What becomes a problem is when you are commuting in lanes where the speed is higher than you, on your bike, can reach- inconveniencing drivers, especially at a crucial time like rush hour. Have some awareness and empathy for those around you and don't bike down major thoroughfares.
But the lanes and trails do not go everywhere. I have a ten mile bike commute. Roughly two miles of it (inbound, I use a slightly different route outbound because of hills) involves taking the lane on streets. One of those miles is a down hill where I match the speed of auto traffic. The other is a "state" avenue in DC, where congestion means I am usually almost as fast as auto traffic, for the short distance I ride on it.
Cyclists have to ride from point A to point B, and that almost always involves a combination of different facilities.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:07
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Stick to bike lanes and bike trails. We won't have a problem.
Anonymous
09/11/2017 11:06
Subject: Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is true that you will rarely go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.
My point is that the cyclists I see are clearly NOT on the way to work. They are just exercising. In the middle of the road. During rush hour. It is extremely inconsiderate. Given you aren't going to work so don't have to be anywhere anytime soon, why don't you ride your tricycle to an actual, I don't know, BIKE PATH, so you can roam free among your people???
Have you stopped them to ask? Because if not, I don't know how you can tell whether they are on their way to work or not.
We had a guy in our office who biked to work. He kept his work clothes in the gym locker and showered and changed at the office. You can't tell whether someone is biking to work or no just by what they are carrying.
I get that there are some cyclists who ignore the laws, etc., and I'm not a cyclist, but I'm always surprised by the number of assholes who think that threatening to injure and kill people is not only acceptable, but funny. It's pretty gross, and it takes a lot of energy to stop myself from wishing that they would be injured or killed (in a one-car accident, so no one else gets hurt) while driving around like they own the world. I figure these are the same people who talk on their phones while they drive, speed, and otherwise ignore their fair share of traffic laws. Like, fine, be annoyed by bicyclists, but expressing pleasure at the idea of people getting hurt or killed? You are a garbage person. Period.
That's what ALL the people I know who bike to work do. They don't bike in in their work clothes -- that would be disgusting. I don't think anyone is out for a pleasure ride during the morning commute time. Those people are all commuting into work.
I honestly hope that in the next couple of decades, we move to a system where it is impermissible or prohibitively expensive to drive into the city on a daily basis. I'm not physically capable of biking into work, so I take public transportation. It's not sustainable for everyone to drive as much as we do.