Anonymous wrote:I ignored this thread when I saw it first pop up. The name is just weird. Hoarding dreams? Who came up with that? Now that I've read through a few pages, I think it should be "have you or your children been the beneficiary of white privilege?"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/

Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.

Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.

What an arrogant ignorant directive

Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.

It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .

We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?

WTF???
Most poor people are WORKING POOR!
You and your wrong-headed, not factual ideas of poor welfare queens living off you.
Who the f*** do you think is living the high life off what folks get for SNAP or WIC each month.
Does it make you feel good to believe that garbage?
PLUS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS, KIDS, KIDS.
Kids have to be taught about how to make good choices, how to gather, retain, and utilize information. Do you think you are just simply a good person and made outstanding choices because you are innately a "better" person some poor 17 yr old? No, someone taught you, just like they taught me.
There are a lot of kids out here who are not getting what we got. Their are kids in crumbling schools with teachers who either don't give a damn or don't have what they need to teach the kids the best way possible. There are kids going to school HUNGRY. Study after Study has shown that hungry kids are not learning..too damn busy, I don't know, being hungry!!
And you want to talk about sexually active teens, do you know how many young girls are molested and become sexualized early and then go on to be sexually active as a way of acting out after being violated.
Yes, we as a society have a responsibility to make sure that we create a fair and just society for all people -- ALL PEOPLE. Not just you.
And for you to talk about people of color and poor people as if they are not people -- FORGET YOU!!!!!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/amp/

Graduate high school, get a job, wait until age 21 to marry and don't have kids premarriage, and you have only a 2% chance of living in poverty.

Love this! With just a bit of tweaking short, snappy, and to the point. Should be basis of a national advertising campaign.

What an arrogant ignorant directive

Yeah, I mean any one of those is super hard, I can't imagine doing all of them together. Insanity.

It is the simplistic, condescending tone, as if just telling them is going to make it happen without any regard for helping to create the circumstances and environment that would help make it possible .

We're looking at this from different sides of the coin. You think we should provide some kind of social service or "environment" to make it conducive for POCs and poors to make good choices. I think we should pull the rug out so they have no choice but to get off their asses and make good choices themselves or face a shitty future. Bottom line, that's all that works with the remora class. If you give them anything they will keep taking and taking and putting in as little effort as possible. Why should it be everybody else's responsibility to bankroll their poor choices?

WTF???
Most poor people are WORKING POOR!
You and your wrong-headed, not factual ideas of poor welfare queens living off you.
Who the f*** do you think is living the high life off what folks get for SNAP or WIC each month.
Does it make you feel good to believe that garbage?
PLUS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS, KIDS, KIDS.
Kids have to be taught about how to make good choices, how to gather, retain, and utilize information. Do you think you are just simply a good person and made outstanding choices because you are innately a "better" person some poor 17 yr old? No, someone taught you, just like they taught me.
There are a lot of kids out here who are not getting what we got. Their are kids in crumbling schools with teachers who either don't give a damn or don't have what they need to teach the kids the best way possible. There are kids going to school HUNGRY. Study after Study has shown that hungry kids are not learning..too damn busy, I don't know, being hungry!!
And you want to talk about sexually active teens, do you know how many young girls are molested and become sexualized early and then go on to be sexually active as a way of acting out after being violated.
Yes, we as a society have a responsibility to make sure that we create a fair and just society for all people -- ALL PEOPLE. Not just you.
And for you to talk about people of color and poor people as if they are not people -- FORGET YOU!!!!!!!

LOL you can take the privileged crap and shove it
I grew up poor and made it without anybody showing me anything
Quit making excuses for people. Its time that decisions have consequences.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster who posted the Brookings link but haven't posted since.

Why can't we implement a required high school course (or maybe even late middle school) in high poverty areas that goes something like this:

Have you spent your whole life on public assistance? Do you think it totally sucks and don't want to spend the rest of your life that way? Great! Here's how you do it! Oh and by the way, here's how bank accounts work and credit card payments/fees/interest. Here's how you buy an affordable used car. Here is how you rent an affordable apartment on your own. But most importantly, finish school, do NOT do drugs and DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT get pregnant (or get anyone pregnant.) And I honestly think that very last part is the crux of the whole issue.