Anonymous wrote:Now I've heard it all.

Who doesn't like gooey cheese mixed with pasta? It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with how good it tastes, lol.

I don't.

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Anonymous wrote:What I like about this spread,is it is more than income. It includes "values" and perceptions.

For some, it is all about money. For others, personal satisfaction comes from other factors.

For example, financially, a university professor might not be UMC -- my BIL ( a full professor) is paid under 80K for a 9 month salary....but he is not in it for the money. For him, he (as a G2) has the perfect job.

By comparison, someone in finance, who might make 10x him, is really not in the same class....

really, you would say someone who makes $800k is not upper middle class? What are they, just middle class?

NP. I would say they might be high gentry, but not necessarily in the E class. I agree with the other poster that I think this considers background, which is equally important to actual earnings.

For example, a lottery winner is probably not in the E class either.

Now I've heard it all.

Who doesn't like gooey cheese mixed with pasta? It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with how good it tastes, lol.

You all think it's that hard to move up? My husband and I are both in the E class, probably somewhere between E4 and E3. I'm a lawyer and he's a portfolio manager. We are both first generation college graduates. Now we make over 7 figures between us (mostly from his side - he makes over 750k).

I've never once felt insulted or looked down upon because of how either of us grew up (lower middle class). In fact, I've only ever felt appreciated for our particular professional expertise. We are regularly invited to charity functions and galas, out to dinner with our bosses, etc.

Anonymous wrote:What I like about this spread,is it is more than income. It includes "values" and perceptions.

For some, it is all about money. For others, personal satisfaction comes from other factors.

For example, financially, a university professor might not be UMC -- my BIL ( a full professor) is paid under 80K for a 9 month salary....but he is not in it for the money. For him, he (as a G2) has the perfect job.

By comparison, someone in finance, who might make 10x him, is really not in the same class....

really, you would say someone who makes $800k is not upper middle class? What are they, just middle class?

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Anonymous wrote:I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

I see DCUM's lasagna hate has found it's way to Money & Finances forum.

Though there's a sense in which I agree with you...but I don't think it's so much about never eating those foods as it is about recognizing them for what they are (not fancy food).

Someone with refinement who was raised in a family who exposed their children to travel, and good high quality cuisine won't even have the palate to want to eat the typical olive garden fare. Lasagne and Ziti are middle class and below foods. They are foods actually adored by those classes.

Again, what you eat and really belies your upbringing amd exposure.

My E2 family has a beautiful home in northern Italy. They eat lasagna.

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Anonymous wrote:I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

I see DCUM's lasagna hate has found it's way to Money & Finances forum.

Though there's a sense in which I agree with you...but I don't think it's so much about never eating those foods as it is about recognizing them for what they are (not fancy food).

Someone with refinement who was raised in a family who exposed their children to travel, and good high quality cuisine won't even have the palate to want to eat the typical olive garden fare. Lasagne and Ziti are middle class and below foods. They are foods actually adored by those classes.

Again, what you eat and really belies your upbringing amd exposure.

Anonymous wrote:I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

I see DCUM's lasagna hate has found it's way to Money & Finances forum.

Though there's a sense in which I agree with you...but I don't think it's so much about never eating those foods as it is about recognizing them for what they are (not fancy food).

Anonymous wrote:I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

Are you from an L4/L3?

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Anonymous wrote:I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

I don't know about that. It says your guests might get heart burn maybe.

What if it's vegan organic lasagna

Anonymous wrote:I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

I don't know about that. It says your guests might get heart burn maybe.

I think DH and I are around G2-3. But our families and friends are a total mix, from L1/G2/E3. So I think there is mobility sideways at least.

DC area has a lot of Es and I think that explains a lot about the culture here.

So where do all the successful people without college degrees fit it? Such as Gates, Jons, Branson, Ellison, Mackey, Dell, Geffen...the list goes on.

I'm also a college drop out. I went into sales, had a very successful sales career and then started my own IT company. I certainly don't have money like the above mentioned, but my children never will have to worry about money a day in their life.

I fell like if you eat baked ziti or serve guests lasagne, you are low class. Period. You can tell alot about someone's social class by their eating habits.

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Anonymous wrote:By contrast my E2 SIL is in peak fitness and health. She's the CEO of a company. Her well being is never sacrificed and it shows.

CEOs are E3.

E2s prefer to not work.

Ok