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Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Per the MOU that governs the Ellington and DCPS operation (it isn't a regular DCPS school), Ellington can legally enroll tuition-paying, out of state students, up to 10% of its student body. DCPS re-signed within the last 2-3 years. Each MOU is good for several years (I believe 5-10 years).

I think if DCPS can improve its arts programming then it will get enough competition to not need to give these seats to out of state. There is so much demand for "high quality" seats it is kinda crazy that DCPS system has to look outside. I am guessing this is mostly for instruments, or do do something about the gender gap.

Your first point is correct about arts programming at middle schools. But know that the people who do registration and the people who conduct auditions are different people, and the audition people don't care about or look for where kids come from. And that 10% is for the entire school, not 10 of those who audition. So if their current number is 47 now, next year only the number of OOS seniors graduating, plus 8 would be all they could let in. And it's not just PG County applying. It's MOCO, Alexandria, Howard Co, Accoceek even. But also a fair number of people moving from other cities and countries to DC.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Per the MOU that governs the Ellington and DCPS operation (it isn't a regular DCPS school), Ellington can legally enroll tuition-paying, out of state students, up to 10% of its student body. DCPS re-signed within the last 2-3 years. Each MOU is good for several years (I believe 5-10 years).

I think if DCPS can improve its arts programming then it will get enough competition to not need to give these seats to out of state. There is so much demand for "high quality" seats it is kinda crazy that DCPS system has to look outside. I am guessing this is mostly for instruments, or do do something about the gender gap.

The pp who mentioned the regional pull of Ellington has a good point. Maryland and Virginia have schools with advanced academic programs but Ellington is unique in the area so of course it attracts OOS students. And they’re below their 10% cap. And probably those OOS students who beat out a DC student for admission were just plain better. So if you have a problem with this, contact your city government.

~mom of a former white DC Ellington student

Anonymous wrote:Curious as to why so many of the DC residency fraud cases seem to originate in from “Prince Grifters County”. Are the schools really much worse than in DC?

No , it's just convenience and babysitting.

Curious as to why so many of the DC residency fraud cases seem to originate in from “Prince Grifters County”. Are the schools really much worse than in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Get over it already.

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Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Per the MOU that governs the Ellington and DCPS operation (it isn't a regular DCPS school), Ellington can legally enroll tuition-paying, out of state students, up to 10% of its student body. DCPS re-signed within the last 2-3 years. Each MOU is good for several years (I believe 5-10 years).

This needs to change. Why should DC taxpayers provide a subsidized education (and in fraud cases, a free one) to kids from PG County?

1) I know 3 OOS tuition payers (1 graduated last year, 2 are graduating this year). 2 live in Fairfax County, 1 lives in Baltimore. Can we just dispense with the PG slams? OOS is OOS and DESA has regional pull. If the tuition amount were increased (probably should be) I’m sure people would still pay it.

2) There is residency fraud throughout the city. Fraud at Ellington is no different than fraud at Wilson, Perry St, Breakthrough, Powell and the rest (all have had residency fraud incidents in last 18 months).

If you want it to change, apply for the chancellor’s parent cabinet (applications are open) and talk to your Council members and/or Mendelsohn and Grosso. But know that the current DCPS and political leadership ALL support Ellington and its current governance structure so you’re in for an uphill fight. Is this really the most important issue DCPS has?

Anonymous wrote:It's not so hard to get in if you have a parent who works for the DC government and knows some folks.

Sadly, the his appears to be the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Per the MOU that governs the Ellington and DCPS operation (it isn't a regular DCPS school), Ellington can legally enroll tuition-paying, out of state students, up to 10% of its student body. DCPS re-signed within the last 2-3 years. Each MOU is good for several years (I believe 5-10 years).

This needs to change. Why should DC taxpayers provide a subsidized education (and in fraud cases, a free one) to kids from PG County?

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Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Per the MOU that governs the Ellington and DCPS operation (it isn't a regular DCPS school), Ellington can legally enroll tuition-paying, out of state students, up to 10% of its student body. DCPS re-signed within the last 2-3 years. Each MOU is good for several years (I believe 5-10 years).

Anonymous wrote:Those numbers tell me that DCUM needs to find another target if 47 kids are paying OOS tuition to attend. Get over the fact that your kid(s)' campuses aren't as pretty or if they weren't granted admission.

My kids are in second grade. At dcps. All I am saying it 47 represents a big percentage. Dcps needs to step up and offer more seats to dc students.

Anonymous wrote:Do oos have different admissions process? What about someone who is planning on moving to DC?

Same process for out of state students.

If you are moving here post-lottery you would need to contact MSDC and the school to see if they have slots in your discipline and if an audition can be scheduled.

Do oos have different admissions process? What about someone who is planning on moving to DC?

Ellington has nothing to do with it. They don't charge the money, they don't collect. They don't get the tuition directly. Just the per-pupil they get for any student. DCPS and OSSE, period.

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Anonymous wrote:47 out of state students at Ellington. That is high for an enrollment of 560. WTF.

It is a lot for a fancy school paid for by DC's taxpayers. I doubt that tuition covers the actual costs of educating the out of city student. And that number only reflects the "official" tuition-paying students. How many others are illegally registered as DC residents but live in Maryland? And how many of the tuition-paying students are up to date with tuition payments?

The school does not collect tuition, OSSE does, often poorly. If that is a problem that's on OSSE.

Well, if Ellington and OSSE can't fix it, then send the kids home to Maryland!