Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew a family at Norwood who boasted about the fact their employers paid 75% of their kids school fees. They mentioned it every single time that we saw them. It got old, fast.
Whoa. Where did they work??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45907/jewish/Eight-Levels-of-Charity.htm
I would offer that some posters on this thread have achieved level [9]: a still even lesser level is when one gives reluctantly, preens about it, and then expects gratitude from the recipients - but only the ones that the giver deems less worthy.
+1 bingo! Love the list.
NP. This thread is bizarre. Do FA recipients really think so little of donors?
I do not think little of donors at all. What I think little of are people who come on this board and do nothing more than berate those of us on FA, accuse of us stealing, being lazy, expecting/wanting something for nothing, etc. etc. etc. It's condescending and simply not true. I am GRATEFUL for the generosity of everyone who chooses to give regardless of their reasons. However, to expect me to be OK with being subjected to their rudeness simply because they have more zeros in their bank account than I do is unacceptable and intolerable. My DC's school costs close to $40K. I pay $25K of that every year, plus I donate to the annual fund. Yet, somehow I am poor, lazy, ungrateful? Seriously? Because I cannot afford to full pay $40K a year that makes me less than? $25K is a lot of money. Heck, that is the annual salary of some. I do not and will not apologize, nor do I feel any shame, for accepting $15K a year in financial aid for my DC to receive what I believe is an outstanding education. The idea that I should is simply mind boggling quite frankly. Again people don't seem to understand what gratitude actually means.
Anonymous wrote:I worked at a school in another state and everyone on aid from 7 grade on had to clean classrooms after s hoo
For 45 min everyday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think people were trying to point out that people who drive luxury vehicles and own houses bigger than is necessary (3,000 sq ft is excessive) shouldn't be proud about turning around and putting a hand out to other parents at their kids' schools for help paying tuition. We're an FA family and we also are not poor. I would say we're lower middle class, highly educated. Typical of Washingtonians who don't have the higher paying jobs, but have deeply rewarding jobs that do a lot for others for mediocre pay. We live in a house that's well within our means, have a VERY old car and a newer modest car that replaced a very old car. Take driving vacations to grandparents. Have a happy life.
We have some other financial constraints that make us especially qualified for aid and we receive almost 50%. It's a stretch to afford the other portion, but we live pretty frugally and enjoy modest treats as we can. I think we're a great example of what we can bring to a private school -- education, a great kid, a supportive family -- and try to volunteer and be active members of the community as a show of appreciation for the FA and all they do for our DC.
Admissions people absolutely can and should do outreach to find families who think private schools would be well outside their means as a way to increase the economic diversity of the school. This includes people who can pay something but not all. It's true that it's not usually hard to find kids who need a full ride. It's also true that families who can pay some but not all are important as well.
I think a family at $250K with outsized houses and fancy cars is a stretch. I wouldn't normally state such a thing, but it's the way you brag about it that's is unseemly.
PP -- your family is the kind of family that any school would be lucky to have!
Anonymous wrote:I think people were trying to point out that people who drive luxury vehicles and own houses bigger than is necessary (3,000 sq ft is excessive) shouldn't be proud about turning around and putting a hand out to other parents at their kids' schools for help paying tuition. We're an FA family and we also are not poor. I would say we're lower middle class, highly educated. Typical of Washingtonians who don't have the higher paying jobs, but have deeply rewarding jobs that do a lot for others for mediocre pay. We live in a house that's well within our means, have a VERY old car and a newer modest car that replaced a very old car. Take driving vacations to grandparents. Have a happy life.
We have some other financial constraints that make us especially qualified for aid and we receive almost 50%. It's a stretch to afford the other portion, but we live pretty frugally and enjoy modest treats as we can. I think we're a great example of what we can bring to a private school -- education, a great kid, a supportive family -- and try to volunteer and be active members of the community as a show of appreciation for the FA and all they do for our DC.
Admissions people absolutely can and should do outreach to find families who think private schools would be well outside their means as a way to increase the economic diversity of the school. This includes people who can pay something but not all. It's true that it's not usually hard to find kids who need a full ride. It's also true that families who can pay some but not all are important as well.
I think a family at $250K with outsized houses and fancy cars is a stretch. I wouldn't normally state such a thing, but it's the way you brag about it that's is unseemly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
If you consider a HHI of $250K poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who drives a luxury SUV poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who lives in a 3000 square foot house poor, then yes I'm poor.
I do not consider myself poor and I suspect none on DCUM (based on prior threads) would consider me poor. I however, am not rich by wealthy standards. I don't own a summer beach home. I don't own a boat. I don't own a home without a mortgage. I don't travel to the Apls or go on month long African Safari vacations. See there is a huge gap between being poor and being rich. It's called MIDDLE CLASS!
There is something deeply wrong with a school who will give a person like this thousands of dollars a year while There are thousands and thousands of children in this city who would TRULY benefit from an opportunity to attend a better school than the one their parents can afford. At this point in the discussion, the blame is on the admissions staff. The admissions staff's at this school needs some serious help,
As further evidenced by the fact that they gave the above idiot FA.
Idiot? LMAO. Takes one to know one. Your entire rant shows just how little you know about the private school world. Are these so called children even applying to these schools? Are these so called children academically qualified to be admitted to these schools? Are these so called children's parents committed to the type of sacrifices one makes when you enroll your child in a priavte school? The play dates, the volunteering, the social dynamics of rich people who will always look at you like you are a charity case? You are plum clueless about it's not as simple as finding underprivileged kids to give an opportunity. Maybe those kids parents do not want to send their kids to private school. But yes, it's the administrations fault who applies and who doesn't apply to their school. No one from my DCs school sought me out. No one did outreach to find me. I, as a parent, wanted this for my DC so I sought it out. They had no control over whether I applied or not. The fact that they were impressed with my child and my family, and decided we are a family they want to be a part of their community is a blessing. A blessing I won't allow you or anyone to make me believe my child is not deserving of. So please take your fake "I care about the poor kids of this city" BS and go sit down somewhere.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
If you consider a HHI of $250K poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who drives a luxury SUV poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who lives in a 3000 square foot house poor, then yes I'm poor.
I do not consider myself poor and I suspect none on DCUM (based on prior threads) would consider me poor. I however, am not rich by wealthy standards. I don't own a summer beach home. I don't own a boat. I don't own a home without a mortgage. I don't travel to the Apls or go on month long African Safari vacations. See there is a huge gap between being poor and being rich. It's called MIDDLE CLASS!
There is something deeply wrong with a school who will give a person like this thousands of dollars a year while There are thousands and thousands of children in this city who would TRULY benefit from an opportunity to attend a better school than the one their parents can afford. At this point in the discussion, the blame is on the admissions staff. The admissions staff's at this school needs some serious help,
As further evidenced by the fact that they gave the above idiot FA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
If you consider a HHI of $250K poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who drives a luxury SUV poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who lives in a 3000 square foot house poor, then yes I'm poor.
I do not consider myself poor and I suspect none on DCUM (based on prior threads) would consider me poor. I however, am not rich by wealthy standards. I don't own a summer beach home. I don't own a boat. I don't own a home without a mortgage. I don't travel to the Apls or go on month long African Safari vacations. See there is a huge gap between being poor and being rich. It's called MIDDLE CLASS!