Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.
Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:
Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;
Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)
Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators
No lifeguard is going "wrangle" an alligator. What crazy alternative universe do some of you live in?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?
Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.
Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.
Wrong. There were no signs about alligators and the area was not roped off. This was a resort event on the beach and there was a life guard and employees present. Disney is going to pay serious bank to this family and witnesses.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
Plus 1,000,000,000,000++++ HAVE SOME COMPASSION !!!!!!!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.
Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:
Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;
Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)
Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators
Anonymous wrote:The skeptic (and prosecutor) in me wonders if anyone actually saw the child on the beach other than the parents. The whole story is strange. Why is the four year old in the play pen while the baby is allowed to wander alone in the water in the darK?
Otherwisee, it is just a horrible tragedy. Disney has been at that location for more than 40 years. If they were truly negligent, this would not be the first incident of this kind.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?
Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.
Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.
Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:
Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;
Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)
Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators
Anonymous wrote:I bet disney takes precautions to keep animal kingdom and the safari lodge free of gators to protect the animals. Too bad they don't protect the baby humans.
Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?
Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.
Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez all the back and forth- this baby was two years old. Can you even imagine the terror and trauma? Imagine being his mom or dad witnessing such a thing happening to to their little boy and completely unable to stop it?
If that happened to my precious boy (my only child) I would be done and looking for an exit strategy.
It's a reason some parents choose to have two. That sounds cold, but it's true.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.
Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).
I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.
+1. If I were on a jury for this case, knowing the facts currently available, I wouldn't award any money. Disney cannot control the alligator population on its property.
As for the posters claiming eyewitnesses will be able to sue, you clearly know nothing about the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly. "
Good. I hope they start culling statewide, and throughout the Southeast. Enough with the stupid environmentalists. The gators are a dangerous nuisance. They should have died out with the dinosaurs. Biologically, they're much, much older than us. They've had a good run, now it's time to go.
When you remove in animals natural predators, other species are allowed to flourish, and then become problems. We can just remove one creature from the ecosystem everything to me fine.