Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 16:42     Subject: New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
I really do have to wonder where all those MPD employees are going to park...not exactly an abundance of parking in that area.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:52     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it ironic that Bowser is making such a play for states rights, yet trampling on our rights? Chilling, isn't it? Makes me firmly opposed to D.C. Statehood right now.


building a homeless shelter does not violate your rights.


Choosing a site and moving ahead without public input, including through ANCs as required by law, does violate citizen rights.


Please be careful with your language. Zoning rules are not inalienable rights. It's not even clear that those zoning rules were broken - and if they were, "chilling" is not the right way to describe it. Aggravating is more like it. Overstating your case like this just weakens whatever case you have.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:48     Subject: New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There were surveyors out and about in the Second District's parking lot yesterday doing their thing. I don't know if the lawsuit has been dropped but it certainly looks like the shelter plan is moving forward.


The lawsuit has not been dropped.

It's hard to see how DC's plan (a six story building next to single family homes) gets built, though. Existing zoning would not permit a building of that size. Moreover, the DC comprehensive plan requires a buffer and height step down to areas of SFHs, which obviously is not part of DC's proposal at this site.


The shelter can be built as a matter-of-right, unlike many of the other proposed sites. Furthermore, the city already owns the land, removing another barrier.

Of all the sites selected, the MPD site makes the most logistical and financial sense.

To the north and west, there are no SFH. There is adequate buffer to the east and south to the small number of SFH that would be affected due to the large size of the parcel. Finding a piece of land in the city with those attributes is no small feat and Cheh and others are to be commended for making this happen.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:43     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it ironic that Bowser is making such a play for states rights, yet trampling on our rights? Chilling, isn't it? Makes me firmly opposed to D.C. Statehood right now.

I see those two events as unrelated. We all can easily list off dozens of terrible governors that other states have elected and stupid policies they have imposed. Just because you're a state doesn't mean you are protected from politicians making bad choices.


True, but most states have bicameral legislatures that can slow down hare-brained proposals for more considered debate (I know, there are exceptions, like with North Carolina's LGBT law) and provide meaningful oversight of executive branch actions. In DC, council members basically get elected with a mere plurality in the Democratic primary or special election. Unlike in various states, there are no run-off elections among top candidates who failed to get a majority in the primary. And once elected, major policies and other decisions can be effected with a majority comprised of seven (sometimes fewer) people. So while very Democratic, DC is not really very democratic.


so becoming a state we would have the whole kit and caboodle? A governor/governor's mansion, staff, bicameral legislature, reconsitituted school board etc?


Governor Bowser? At least it's better than Governor Barry (with pardon power) would have been.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:42     Subject: New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:There were surveyors out and about in the Second District's parking lot yesterday doing their thing. I don't know if the lawsuit has been dropped but it certainly looks like the shelter plan is moving forward.


The lawsuit has not been dropped.

It's hard to see how DC's plan (a six story building next to single family homes) gets built, though. Existing zoning would not permit a building of that size. Moreover, the DC comprehensive plan requires a buffer and height step down to areas of SFHs, which obviously is not part of DC's proposal at this site.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:40     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any more discussion of the eight scattered community based sites and more details on who would be sheltered and how they would be served and monitored? The crimes I've read about recently involving homeless:

Yesterday, a man whose address is a homeless storage facility is accused of fatally stabbing a man with a razor blade who bumped into him by the GU law school building.
In Fairfax, a young man in a transitional youth apartment had been accused of murdering two social workers found unclothed in nearby wooded areas.

I would like more details on who and how...


We don't have resources to monitor them and unfortunately bowser doesn't care and wants wealthy neighborhoods to see and feel homelessness even if that means housing homeless in the most expensive neighborhoods in DC that many people that work full time can't even afford to live in. Cleveland park is pricey and not sure what message she is sending putting homeless people in homes that cost $2,000-3000 per month each?? I want to help homeless and they should have homes but this is not the best way to do this. Bad plan.


Another fundamental question is, if DC did such a poor job in providing services to the homeless in a more centralized setting, on what basis will it be successful in replicating services in eight or so dispersed locations throughout the city?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:38     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it ironic that Bowser is making such a play for states rights, yet trampling on our rights? Chilling, isn't it? Makes me firmly opposed to D.C. Statehood right now.


building a homeless shelter does not violate your rights.


Choosing a site and moving ahead without public input, including through ANCs as required by law, does violate citizen rights.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:37     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it ironic that Bowser is making such a play for states rights, yet trampling on our rights? Chilling, isn't it? Makes me firmly opposed to D.C. Statehood right now.

I see those two events as unrelated. We all can easily list off dozens of terrible governors that other states have elected and stupid policies they have imposed. Just because you're a state doesn't mean you are protected from politicians making bad choices.


True, but most states have bicameral legislatures that can slow down hare-brained proposals for more considered debate (I know, there are exceptions, like with North Carolina's LGBT law) and provide meaningful oversight of executive branch actions. In DC, council members basically get elected with a mere plurality in the Democratic primary or special election. Unlike in various states, there are no run-off elections among top candidates who failed to get a majority in the primary. And once elected, major policies and other decisions can be effected with a majority comprised of seven (sometimes fewer) people. So while very Democratic, DC is not really very democratic.


so becoming a state we would have the whole kit and caboodle? A governor/governor's mansion, staff, bicameral legislature, reconsitituted school board etc?


Yes, and perhaps both "state" and municipal offices for certain functions. Imagine the patronage opportunities! Jobs for "the Community"! And you'll get to pay for it all.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 06:34     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it ironic that Bowser is making such a play for states rights, yet trampling on our rights? Chilling, isn't it? Makes me firmly opposed to D.C. Statehood right now.


building a homeless shelter does not violate your rights.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 05:19     Subject: New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
There were surveyors out and about in the Second District's parking lot yesterday doing their thing. I don't know if the lawsuit has been dropped but it certainly looks like the shelter plan is moving forward.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2017 20:36     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Any updates on this? I heard that the lawsuit against the Ward 3 shelter was either dropped or it won't be pursued and the shelter will go up. Is this actually the case?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 14:40     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
There are tons of homeless on the street in Tenleytown..some.look very far gone. In need of beds, therapies etc..i dont think these homes would do much for them if they agreed to go. We do have a.lot of transitional youth living in group homes in dc that seem poorly managed. This Fairfax one sounds like it was pretty good and the community ended up with an alleged rampaging killer. Yikes. And Bowser has promised year round shelter to all comers, not weather based. What a mess.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 12:28     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:Any more discussion of the eight scattered community based sites and more details on who would be sheltered and how they would be served and monitored? The crimes I've read about recently involving homeless:

Yesterday, a man whose address is a homeless storage facility is accused of fatally stabbing a man with a razor blade who bumped into him by the GU law school building.
In Fairfax, a young man in a transitional youth apartment had been accused of murdering two social workers found unclothed in nearby wooded areas.

I would like more details on who and how...


We don't have resources to monitor them and unfortunately bowser doesn't care and wants wealthy neighborhoods to see and feel homelessness even if that means housing homeless in the most expensive neighborhoods in DC that many people that work full time can't even afford to live in. Cleveland park is pricey and not sure what message she is sending putting homeless people in homes that cost $2,000-3000 per month each?? I want to help homeless and they should have homes but this is not the best way to do this. Bad plan.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 08:46     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Any more discussion of the eight scattered community based sites and more details on who would be sheltered and how they would be served and monitored? The crimes I've read about recently involving homeless:

Yesterday, a man whose address is a homeless storage facility is accused of fatally stabbing a man with a razor blade who bumped into him by the GU law school building.
In Fairfax, a young man in a transitional youth apartment had been accused of murdering two social workers found unclothed in nearby wooded areas.

I would like more details on who and how...
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2016 17:27     Subject: Re:New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it ironic that Bowser is making such a play for states rights, yet trampling on our rights? Chilling, isn't it? Makes me firmly opposed to D.C. Statehood right now.

I see those two events as unrelated. We all can easily list off dozens of terrible governors that other states have elected and stupid policies they have imposed. Just because you're a state doesn't mean you are protected from politicians making bad choices.


True, but most states have bicameral legislatures that can slow down hare-brained proposals for more considered debate (I know, there are exceptions, like with North Carolina's LGBT law) and provide meaningful oversight of executive branch actions. In DC, council members basically get elected with a mere plurality in the Democratic primary or special election. Unlike in various states, there are no run-off elections among top candidates who failed to get a majority in the primary. And once elected, major policies and other decisions can be effected with a majority comprised of seven (sometimes fewer) people. So while very Democratic, DC is not really very democratic.


so becoming a state we would have the whole kit and caboodle? A governor/governor's mansion, staff, bicameral legislature, reconsitituted school board etc?