Despite all the drama between Kathryn and Thomas - and I realize the showbiz heavily edited - I thought it was sweet how Thomas seemed attentive to Kathryn at the end of the episode: visiting her they night before the delivery, picking her up, holding her hand in the car, etc.

If you're going to have someone's baby, at the very least you can be cordial with her during labor! It seemed that Thomas was respectful.

Craig is such a loser. Even if he's playing part, ugh. Just awful. Grow up. How anyone would hire him is beyond me.

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Anonymous wrote:This past week's episode was kind of a snoozer, despite the baby being born.

Craig is such a loser. "I have never had a job get in the way of taking a vacation before" uhh...yeah. That is called real life, moron. He clearly has zero work ethic. He is not doing himself any favors.

I do think it is interesting that the baby was born three weeks early. Wouldn't there have to be an issue for a doctor to do that?

I haven't had an induction but aren't they only for medical issues or if you are a week or more past the due date? If she got one for the second reason, it could mean she was a month further along than everyone thought, which means this could TOTALLY be someone else's baby...

Katherine said she had blood pressure issues.

The way she rapidly swings from happy to angry that is not at all surprising.

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Anonymous wrote:This past week's episode was kind of a snoozer, despite the baby being born.

Craig is such a loser. "I have never had a job get in the way of taking a vacation before" uhh...yeah. That is called real life, moron. He clearly has zero work ethic. He is not doing himself any favors.

I do think it is interesting that the baby was born three weeks early. Wouldn't there have to be an issue for a doctor to do that?

I haven't had an induction but aren't they only for medical issues or if you are a week or more past the due date? If she got one for the second reason, it could mean she was a month further along than everyone thought, which means this could TOTALLY be someone else's baby...

Katherine said she had blood pressure issues.

It may be someone else's baby. But I was induced three week early because we could not get my blood pressure under control. It's believable.

Anonymous wrote:This past week's episode was kind of a snoozer, despite the baby being born.

Craig is such a loser. "I have never had a job get in the way of taking a vacation before" uhh...yeah. That is called real life, moron. He clearly has zero work ethic. He is not doing himself any favors.

I do think it is interesting that the baby was born three weeks early. Wouldn't there have to be an issue for a doctor to do that?

I haven't had an induction but aren't they only for medical issues or if you are a week or more past the due date? If she got one for the second reason, it could mean she was a month further along than everyone thought, which means this could TOTALLY be someone else's baby...

Katherine said she had blood pressure issues.

Anonymous wrote:This past week's episode was kind of a snoozer, despite the baby being born.

Craig is such a loser. "I have never had a job get in the way of taking a vacation before" uhh...yeah. That is called real life, moron. He clearly has zero work ethic. He is not doing himself any favors.

I do think it is interesting that the baby was born three weeks early. Wouldn't there have to be an issue for a doctor to do that?

I haven't had an induction but aren't they only for medical issues or if you are a week or more past the due date? If she got one for the second reason, it could mean she was a month further along than everyone thought, which means this could TOTALLY be someone else's baby...

Agreed! Also the baby looks nothing like either one of them. He looks like that guy Cooper on the show actually! lol. I truly wonder if both kids have been paternity tested and proven to be Ravenels. Thomas seemed to really want kids and not even bother to test.

This past week's episode was kind of a snoozer, despite the baby being born.

Craig is such a loser. "I have never had a job get in the way of taking a vacation before" uhh...yeah. That is called real life, moron. He clearly has zero work ethic. He is not doing himself any favors.

I do think it is interesting that the baby was born three weeks early. Wouldn't there have to be an issue for a doctor to do that?

I haven't had an induction but aren't they only for medical issues or if you are a week or more past the due date? If she got one for the second reason, it could mean she was a month further along than everyone thought, which means this could TOTALLY be someone else's baby...

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Anonymous wrote:Whitney reacted that way because he and everyone on that show knows the reason he's mad at Kathryn is she glommed her way onto the show and made it about her and Thomas. She ruined his show which he wanted to be the anti-Bravo-drama. He sputtered and stuttered because it's breaking the 4th wall to say that and that's also why everyone else was so ticked at Craig- because they all know that's why Whitney hates Kathryn but Craig, for the sake of playing a character on a reality show, came up with this crap on camera knowing full damn well that's not the case. But it's the first rule of reality TV you can't talk about being on reality TV on reality TV so Whitney didn't know how to defend himself to Craig's obvious machinations.

This actually makes total sense.

You can hear Whitney say over and over again "Well then let's just stop talking about it" and "Why even mention here" and "I just want her to go away"

Bravo, PP. I think you nailed it.

Makes some sense, but I still don't think Whitney's angry reaction is justified by tbjs explanation.
It's the same old thing as when we were kids: boys are mean to the girls they like!

Uh, no. His anger was at CRAIG not Kathryn in that scene. I think he probably thinks Kathryn is a disgusting low life because it's now clear she only fucked him to a ) get on the show and b) get with Thomas. He was angry because he figured out that Craig and Kathryn concocted some story to make it look like Whitney is mad at Kathryn for "rejecting" him when everyone in that group clearly knows the real reason he dislikes Kathryn.

Imagine you were on a reality show and you hated cast member B because she slept with your husband. Everyone you know on the show knows it too. But you don't want to open that can of worms on tv so it's not a storyline. But then out of nowhere in a bid for drama, castmate E makes some reason you hate B that is flattering to B. You would be pissed because it's now a storyline you can't defend without bringing up the thing you didn't want brought up. That's what's going on here. This show is in its 3rd season, at this point, all in fighting is directly related to show-related stuff that goes unspoken to the viewers but is known to the cast. Craig pulled a dick move throwing real life Whitney under the bus for the sake of Craig's southern charm character. That's why Cam said "you should be ashamed" and says he's not the Craig she knows. He bought into the fame and is now forsaking real life relationships for screen time.

This was my take away also. I think Whitney and Cameran were both shocked by Craig's behavior and angry with him.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitney reacted that way because he and everyone on that show knows the reason he's mad at Kathryn is she glommed her way onto the show and made it about her and Thomas. She ruined his show which he wanted to be the anti-Bravo-drama. He sputtered and stuttered because it's breaking the 4th wall to say that and that's also why everyone else was so ticked at Craig- because they all know that's why Whitney hates Kathryn but Craig, for the sake of playing a character on a reality show, came up with this crap on camera knowing full damn well that's not the case. But it's the first rule of reality TV you can't talk about being on reality TV on reality TV so Whitney didn't know how to defend himself to Craig's obvious machinations.

This actually makes total sense.

You can hear Whitney say over and over again "Well then let's just stop talking about it" and "Why even mention here" and "I just want her to go away"

Bravo, PP. I think you nailed it.

Makes some sense, but I still don't think Whitney's angry reaction is justified by tbjs explanation.
It's the same old thing as when we were kids: boys are mean to the girls they like!

Uh, no. His anger was at CRAIG not Kathryn in that scene. I think he probably thinks Kathryn is a disgusting low life because it's now clear she only fucked him to a ) get on the show and b) get with Thomas. He was angry because he figured out that Craig and Kathryn concocted some story to make it look like Whitney is mad at Kathryn for "rejecting" him when everyone in that group clearly knows the real reason he dislikes Kathryn.

Imagine you were on a reality show and you hated cast member B because she slept with your husband. Everyone you know on the show knows it too. But you don't want to open that can of worms on tv so it's not a storyline. But then out of nowhere in a bid for drama, castmate E makes some reason you hate B that is flattering to B. You would be pissed because it's now a storyline you can't defend without bringing up the thing you didn't want brought up. That's what's going on here. This show is in its 3rd season, at this point, all in fighting is directly related to show-related stuff that goes unspoken to the viewers but is known to the cast. Craig pulled a dick move throwing real life Whitney under the bus for the sake of Craig's southern charm character. That's why Cam said "you should be ashamed" and says he's not the Craig she knows. He bought into the fame and is now forsaking real life relationships for screen time.

Whitney has no feelings for Kathryn. She's his rival in two important ways--for focus on the show, and for Thomas's attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitney reacted that way because he and everyone on that show knows the reason he's mad at Kathryn is she glommed her way onto the show and made it about her and Thomas. She ruined his show which he wanted to be the anti-Bravo-drama. He sputtered and stuttered because it's breaking the 4th wall to say that and that's also why everyone else was so ticked at Craig- because they all know that's why Whitney hates Kathryn but Craig, for the sake of playing a character on a reality show, came up with this crap on camera knowing full damn well that's not the case. But it's the first rule of reality TV you can't talk about being on reality TV on reality TV so Whitney didn't know how to defend himself to Craig's obvious machinations.

This actually makes total sense.

You can hear Whitney say over and over again "Well then let's just stop talking about it" and "Why even mention here" and "I just want her to go away"

Bravo, PP. I think you nailed it.

Makes some sense, but I still don't think Whitney's angry reaction is justified by tbjs explanation.
It's the same old thing as when we were kids: boys are mean to the girls they like!

Anonymous wrote:Whitney reacted that way because he and everyone on that show knows the reason he's mad at Kathryn is she glommed her way onto the show and made it about her and Thomas. She ruined his show which he wanted to be the anti-Bravo-drama. He sputtered and stuttered because it's breaking the 4th wall to say that and that's also why everyone else was so ticked at Craig- because they all know that's why Whitney hates Kathryn but Craig, for the sake of playing a character on a reality show, came up with this crap on camera knowing full damn well that's not the case. But it's the first rule of reality TV you can't talk about being on reality TV on reality TV so Whitney didn't know how to defend himself to Craig's obvious machinations.

This actually makes total sense.

You can hear Whitney say over and over again "Well then let's just stop talking about it" and "Why even mention here" and "I just want her to go away"

Bravo, PP. I think you nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm finally catching up on the back episodes on my DVR. So is Craig basically like a typical millenial expecting to "run the bourbon division" with absolutely no experience or expertise? I don't get why he thinks that would happen?

Though I give him credit for recognizing the Whitney/Kathryn dynamic. I wonder if the prodocuers saw that, or if they went scrambling back for old footage showing Whitney dating Kathryn?

Whitney is the producer. Yes he is on the show and a producers too. It's very scripted - except Katherine getting pregnant twice put a monkey wrench into their planned script.

Yes, it did. That's why Cameron and Whitney are so sour. They expected to be the best characters on the show and instead they're both really boring! The first few episodes were her getting a realtor's license and him buying a property that she was trying to sell. Snooze.

Thank goodness Kathryn, Thomas and Craig know how to actually keep ratings. No one wants to watch a show about a 50 year old man child wannabe rock star and a girl that bathes herself in head to toe Lilly Pulitzer and just gives out lame advice to a bunch of grown ups that don't have jobs and only drink for a living.

Anonymous wrote:I'm finally catching up on the back episodes on my DVR. So is Craig basically like a typical millenial expecting to "run the bourbon division" with absolutely no experience or expertise? I don't get why he thinks that would happen?

Though I give him credit for recognizing the Whitney/Kathryn dynamic. I wonder if the prodocuers saw that, or if they went scrambling back for old footage showing Whitney dating Kathryn?

Whitney is the producer. Yes he is on the show and a producers too. It's very scripted - except Katherine getting pregnant twice put a monkey wrench into their planned script.

Oh and it's why Cameran is so ticked as well. It's not about "exposing" Whitney it's about abandoning your true character to further a storyline that gets you camera time on a tv show. She's annoyed because Craig has bought into being a "TV star" to the point he will do shit like this in front of the cameras. I think Cameran and Shep and Whitney got on board for one kind of show and Kathryn hijacked it and Craig has gotten caught up in the allure of being a Bravolebrity and they're trying to bring him back down to earth by letting him know in the real world, it isn't cool to pill shit like that for the cameras