Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Children with the type of parents you describe could very well end up like their parents. Fortunately, most parents and kids are not like this. None of my friends are act this way. The few people I know like this are not my friends.

If most if the people you know are like this, you should probably make some new friends.

Come on now. I see and watch all these children cry on the weekend when they don't get a ribbon. This is the rule and not the exception in your community. You are clearly oblivious to the reality of your prize and adulation seeking community. Have you attended any swim meets, soccer and lacrosse games and the like year round? Flowing tears surrounding the agony defeat and joys of victory out of the mouths of babes and their parents. This is the rule and norm here.

Since none of your friends act this way you are an exception and must live in an abbey.

Seriously, you are off the deep end. If I catch you watching my kids on the weekend I'm calling the cops.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Children with the type of parents you describe could very well end up like their parents. Fortunately, most parents and kids are not like this. None of my friends are act this way. The few people I know like this are not my friends.

If most if the people you know are like this, you should probably make some new friends.

Come on now. I see and watch all these children cry on the weekend when they don't get a ribbon. This is the rule and not the exception in your community. You are clearly oblivious to the reality of your prize and adulation seeking community. Have you attended any swim meets, soccer and lacrosse games and the like year round? Flowing tears surrounding the agony defeat and joys of victory out of the mouths of babes and their parents. This is the rule and norm here.

Since none of your friends act this way you are an exception and must live in an abbey.

Seriously, you are off the deep end. If I catch you watching my kids on the weekend I'm calling the cops.

Anonymous wrote:

I have no problem at all with this. But, if you don't understand the psychology behind kids/people with very high IQs don't comment like you do. I don't care about IQ's either, but when you have a chid that is on either the very low or very high side of intelligence, it presents with other challenges. Parents on this board speak to this issue without knowing what they are talking about. Sadly AAP is not a gifted program and these kids are left with little or the inappropriate resources. In addition, the aap program has created this craziness of competition to gain "bragging rights" about kids being in the program. They should up their game in the ten ed classes and keep the special eds classes just that - special ed for those who truly need different support.

I'm sure both of my own kids who are both in SET and started out in test-in HGC, middle and now high school math/science/computer science magnets (full scale 146...both) are not as gifted as your kids but I have no issues with voicing my views. We have no issue with test prepping, voracious reading, hard work and preparation as a way of life for kids and adults. Many of these kids may even be more gifted and qualified than your own. But, we know this is not true from your perspective. You should not flaunt your abject insecurities about the learning and retention methods of other children as if these children are impeding the progress and methods chosen by you and your gifted child. We are simply tired of your whimper and whine over nothing. If you don't like it please homeschool your child in your germ-free silo.

Seriously, you are off the deep end. If I catch you watching my kids on the weekend I'm calling the cops.

Anonymous wrote:

Children with the type of parents you describe could very well end up like their parents. Fortunately, most parents and kids are not like this. None of my friends are act this way. The few people I know like this are not my friends.

If most if the people you know are like this, you should probably make some new friends.

Come on now. I see and watch all these children cry on the weekend when they don't get a ribbon. This is the rule and not the exception in your community. You are clearly oblivious to the reality of your prize and adulation seeking community. Have you attended any swim meets, soccer and lacrosse games and the like year round? Flowing tears surrounding the agony defeat and joys of victory out of the mouths of babes and their parents. This is the rule and norm here.

Since none of your friends act this way you are an exception and must live in an abbey.

Children with the type of parents you describe could very well end up like their parents. Fortunately, most parents and kids are not like this. None of my friends are act this way. The few people I know like this are not my friends.

If most if the people you know are like this, you should probably make some new friends.

I have no problem at all with this. But, if you don't understand the psychology behind kids/people with very high IQs don't comment like you do. I don't care about IQ's either, but when you have a chid that is on either the very low or very high side of intelligence, it presents with other challenges. Parents on this board speak to this issue without knowing what they are talking about. Sadly AAP is not a gifted program and these kids are left with little or the inappropriate resources. In addition, the aap program has created this craziness of competition to gain "bragging rights" about kids being in the program. They should up their game in the ten ed classes and keep the special eds classes just that - special ed for those who truly need different support.

Anonymous wrote:It's about competition. 2,3, and 6 year-olds learn and model this behavior from their denying parents and the society around them that's why these kids worship, collect, and preserve the ribbons and tin trinkets they accumulate at a young age and of course brag that their Dad's possessions are bigger than yours. AAP is no different. It's about competition. it's not about education for education sake. Kids are not that smart or noble. They are just like their parents.

It depends. If AAP is this much of a rat race, with just more work, I'd rather stay where we are. It's not like FCPS are the ghetto. Gifted kids are self-motivated and will thrive wherever. I always thought AAP *was* a gifted program until this thread. So, I'm learning.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid with a very high IQ should not interfere with the pursuit of high performance by kids who have never measured their IQ, or even cared about IQ, but work and prep hard all the way to the top of the academic heap. This is a land of hard workers. At least this is what we are taught in American Studies. Our peoples have worked hard on the range, the farm , the classroom, at home, in prep parlors and on the athletic fields. Do you have a problem with this?

I have no problem at all with this. But, if you don't understand the psychology behind kids/people with very high IQs don't comment like you do. I don't care about IQ's either, but when you have a chid that is on either the very low or very high side of intelligence, it presents with other challenges. Parents on this board speak to this issue without knowing what they are talking about. Sadly AAP is not a gifted program and these kids are left with little or the inappropriate resources. In addition, the aap program has created this craziness of competition to gain "bragging rights" about kids being in the program. They should up their game in the ten ed classes and keep the special eds classes just that - special ed for those who truly need different support.

Anonymous wrote:

FC_Mama wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much noise over an ineffective method. If your child is gifted and brilliant why worry over other children using ineffective methods to boost IQ and aptitude and ability. What's the fuss over others wasting their dollars as you claim. Get over it, read for pleasure, and eat your breakfast daily.

There are two categories of parents of gifted kids. First kind includes those parents that help their gifted kids fit in socially, prepare them for entry into advanced programs, prepare them to compete for academic excellence, and get the most out of what the school system offers. And the second kind are those parents who think their kid is a rare gifted kid, and are extremely insecure when they find out there are many other gifted kids who are better than theirs. This insecurity drives the second kind to grouch about the first kind.

I'd argue there's also a third category of parents with gifted kids who don't give a hoot about the tests and think AAP isn't worth the hassle, even if it might benefit their child.

Whoa! And Gen Ed is a lot less hassle than AAP?

FC_Mama wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much noise over an ineffective method. If your child is gifted and brilliant why worry over other children using ineffective methods to boost IQ and aptitude and ability. What's the fuss over others wasting their dollars as you claim. Get over it, read for pleasure, and eat your breakfast daily.

There are two categories of parents of gifted kids. First kind includes those parents that help their gifted kids fit in socially, prepare them for entry into advanced programs, prepare them to compete for academic excellence, and get the most out of what the school system offers. And the second kind are those parents who think their kid is a rare gifted kid, and are extremely insecure when they find out there are many other gifted kids who are better than theirs. This insecurity drives the second kind to grouch about the first kind.

I'd argue there's also a third category of parents with gifted kids who don't give a hoot about the tests and think AAP isn't worth the hassle, even if it might benefit their child.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, they simply want their children to be in the classroom that is best suited for them especially when the regular classroom does not meet their needs. Education is not about competition; it is about each child learning as much as they are able to each year.

Most parents are not looking for any sort of meritorious recognition, they simply want their child to be learning how to learn and to be excited about learning. Education is ongoing throughout life and what happens in the elementary school classrooms can make a difference. Since not all children learn the same way, they will all have a better outcome if they are in classrooms that are best suited for the way they each learn.

If parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, then they should not be enrolling their kids in a public school system let alone an advanced program with limited capacity.