Anonymous wrote:Are we to believe that the topic of discontinuing uniforms has never once come up at the Hardy PTA meetings? Really?

If you join the Hardy PTA you will be entitled to that information.

Anonymous wrote:Are we to believe that the topic of discontinuing uniforms has never once come up at the Hardy PTA meetings? Really?

Yes, really. I have been to or heard about almost every Hardy PTO meeting for the last five years. Uniforms are not an issue that current Hardy parents - or their children that are at Hardy - spend any amount of time thinking about. That's why if you care about it, you should attend a PTO meeting or talk to Principal Pride and raise it as an issue. Don't be under the impression that anyone of import reads this anonymous forum.

Are we to believe that the topic of discontinuing uniforms has never once come up at the Hardy PTA meetings? Really?

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

There are more than two systems. There are the highly desired schools in upper NW, the struggling schools EOTR, the slowly reviving schools EOTP, the test in schools - and then there is Hardy.

Adopting uniforms everywhere would not change that. But would piss a lot of people off.

That phrase kind of sums up Hardy's predicament -- "then there is Hardy." Hardy's challenge is to get to the first group ("the highly desired schools in upper NW").

Except from the DCPS POV it is not really a predicament - the info from this thread confirms the forecasts in last year's - Hardy is slowly, but inexorably, flipping to mostly IB.

Its only a predicament for IB folks with current 4th and 5th graders - at least those among them who do not consider the current state of Hardy adequate. That is not particularly a predicament for Hardy or DCPS.

More accurately stated, the predicament for many upper NW families is that they are frustrated in not having access to "the highly desired schools" in their area for their kids' middle school years. They find Hardy lacking compared to Deal. Maybe some day that will change, but it will take hard work and change to get there.

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Anonymous wrote:You anti-Hardy people (person?) with your obsessions with soccer field size, some teacher from 10 years ago, uniforms, and cell phone transmitters are completely nuts. You make the private school forum look like an exemplar of reasonable discussion.

The angry, anti-IB, anti-reform teacher from 10 years ago is still barricaded in the school.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

She is a teacher there today.

But is she barricaded with an AK-47 in the school as if all the IB families are trying to invade Hardy but she will only be dragged out by her dead body? Or is she sitting in her classroom seething at the very idea of IB families, ready to snap at their children if they dare to enroll?

That, pp is sarcasm, in case you're not sure. And FFS, do you really think she is obsessed with your goddamned family after 10 years? (If she was even obsessed to begin with - which I'm sure she was not.) Man, the conspiracy theories on the Hardy threads are starting to sound like the stuff that comes out of the Truthers or the Birthers.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

There are more than two systems. There are the highly desired schools in upper NW, the struggling schools EOTR, the slowly reviving schools EOTP, the test in schools - and then there is Hardy.

Adopting uniforms everywhere would not change that. But would piss a lot of people off.

That phrase kind of sums up Hardy's predicament -- "then there is Hardy." Hardy's challenge is to get to the first group ("the highly desired schools in upper NW").

Maybe not. Henderson is destroying Wilson for who knows what reason; maybe if Hardy just keeps its uniforms and continues to give off fumes smelling of IB-repellant, DCPS will leave it alone, and it will continue to be a great safe place for earnest kids.

No. The academics appear to be continuing to get stronger, there are increases in "true" IB, in feeder pct - all changes that tend to feed on themselves in an upward spiral. I really don't think uniforms can stop that.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

There are more than two systems. There are the highly desired schools in upper NW, the struggling schools EOTR, the slowly reviving schools EOTP, the test in schools - and then there is Hardy.

Adopting uniforms everywhere would not change that. But would piss a lot of people off.

That phrase kind of sums up Hardy's predicament -- "then there is Hardy." Hardy's challenge is to get to the first group ("the highly desired schools in upper NW").

Except from the DCPS POV it is not really a predicament - the info from this thread confirms the forecasts in last year's - Hardy is slowly, but inexorably, flipping to mostly IB.

Its only a predicament for IB folks with current 4th and 5th graders - at least those among them who do not consider the current state of Hardy adequate. That is not particularly a predicament for Hardy or DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

Or that, because the vast majority don't have uniforms, there must be something different (maybe even problematic) in a school that feels the need to require them.

Shepherd has uniforms.

I actually think the majority of DCPS schools have uniforms. Someone should start that thread and try to find out.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

There are more than two systems. There are the highly desired schools in upper NW, the struggling schools EOTR, the slowly reviving schools EOTP, the test in schools - and then there is Hardy.

Adopting uniforms everywhere would not change that. But would piss a lot of people off.

That phrase kind of sums up Hardy's predicament -- "then there is Hardy." Hardy's challenge is to get to the first group ("the highly desired schools in upper NW").

Maybe not. Henderson is destroying Wilson for who knows what reason; maybe if Hardy just keeps its uniforms and continues to give off fumes smelling of IB-repellant, DCPS will leave it alone, and it will continue to be a great safe place for earnest kids.