Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

Is that "stupid" and fake as well?

http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/


Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17

"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.

The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.

According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operations are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”

The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."

It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.

It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.

Can you point me to the text in "Islam" that promotes the mutilation of women? I'll wait...

Check the Hadiths.

Which Hadith, exactly? Please point me in the right direction. As a muslim woman, I'm curious to know which part of my religion mandates this and why islam is cutting off people's genitals.

Anonymous wrote:Love her. She's a free speech hero that is helping all Muslims that reject rediculous sharia law.

Except the ones who wanted to start a school in New York. These are Muslims she tried to screw over. Apparently the First Amendment does not include the Arabic language.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So why are almost all women in Egypt genitally mutilated?

I know, they all went on a walk together en masse and fell on the same sharp object, over and over and over and over and over...

That includes Christian women as well. FGM is common in parts of Africa, including Egypt but is unknown in most of the Muslim world. In Africa, in the places that FGM is practiced, it crosses religions bounds.

+1000 FGM is a cultural issue that predates Islam and is not practiced by the majority of Muslims. A little bit of research will show this and citing a country that is predominantly muslim that has an FGM issue doesn't change this fact as correlation does not equal causation.

Anonymous wrote:

So why are almost all women in Egypt genitally mutilated?

I know, they all went on a walk together en masse and fell on the same sharp object, over and over and over and over and over...

That includes Christian women as well. FGM is common in parts of Africa, including Egypt but is unknown in most of the Muslim world. In Africa, in the places that FGM is practiced, it crosses religions bounds.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

Is that "stupid" and fake as well?

http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/


Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17

"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.

The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.

According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operations are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”

The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."

It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.

It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.

Can you point me to the text in "Islam" that promotes the mutilation of women? I'll wait...

So why are almost all women in Egypt genitally mutilated?

I know, they all went on a walk together en masse and fell on the same sharp object, over and over and over and over and over...

She has a First Amendment Freedom of Speech.

Whatever you think of her as a person or her organization, she is exercising her rights.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my husband raided a home in Afghanistan one evening, during the course of the search for bad things that kill US Soldiers and Afghan civilians both, the found a lot of writings hidden away in a wall.

After their interpreter read all of the pages, he old them that the writings were nothing sinister.

They were poetry written by the 12 year old daughter of the home.

He also said that the girl was very upset because when her family saw that she had written such poetry, about her love for a boy on their village, she likely would be stoned to death. It was a very rural village in a very hardline province.

The interpreter kept all of the writings, and destroyed them back at base.

I wish that all those who defend Islam would have to live in such a place for 30 days.

I have lived and worked in those countries.

It is beyond the comprehension of civilized humans, what occurs there.

When you defend Islam, you don't even have a conception of the depravity and horror you defend.

This is the stupidest thing I have read in a long time...

Well, here is a New York Times article that speaks to the the issue of women in Afghanistan and their writing of poetry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/magazine/why-afghan-women-risk-death-to-write-poetry.html?_r=0


Why Afghan Women Risk Death to Write Poetry

by Eliza Griswold April 27, 2012

It might be the second "stupidest thing" you will read today.

But I am sure it a lie, too.

Anonymous wrote:Check the Hadiths.

This is a typically useless answer. You are essentially saying that you can't respond substantively. To make things more complicated, I am sure that you know next to nothing about "the Hadiths" and trying to explain the topic to you would be futile and yield nothing but allegations of splitting hairs.

But, to make things simple, here is what Wikipedia says on the topic:

"FGM is found mostly within and adjacent to Muslim communities in Central-North Africa, but it is not required by Islam or practiced in most Muslim countries, and prevalence rates vary according to ethnicity, not religion. There is no reference to it in the Qur'an."

In the same African communities in which FGM is prevalent, Christians and Jews also engage in the practice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

Is that "stupid" and fake as well?

http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/


Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17

"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.

The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.

According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operations are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”

The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."

It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.

It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.

Can you point me to the text in "Islam" that promotes the mutilation of women? I'll wait...

Check the Hadiths.

Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

Is that "stupid" and fake as well?

http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/


Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17

"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.

The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.

According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operations are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”

The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."

It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.

It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.

Can you point me to the text in "Islam" that promotes the mutilation of women? I'll wait...

Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

Is that "stupid" and fake as well?

http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/


Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17

"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.

The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.

According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operations are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”

The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."

It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.

It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.

It is a lie and stupid to say that Islam mutilate women, so stop it already. In Egypt, this is done by both Christian Copts and Muslims alike, so the copts also follow Islam? . And just so you know, in that same country, ,the Grand Mufti of Egypt Ali Gomar ( a muslim....) says: “The practice must be stopped in support of one of the highest values of Islam, namely to do no harm to another ,in accordance with the commandment of the Prophet Mohammed “Accept no harm and do no harm to another.”

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And your absolute lack of compassion or care that millions of women and girls live under a religion that can and will kill them for writing poetry, daring to be raped, etc, as well as not allowing them basic human rights is stunning, and telling.

Your implication that people somehow condone the death of innocent beings is a frightening display of your inability to engage in simple comprehension. You demonstrate the very point of this thread in your attitude. A disgusting disinhibited double standard that only falls back on rhetoric, self-sympathy, and avoids any useful discourse.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/10/the_left_has_islam_all_wrong_bill_maher_pamela_geller_and_the_reality_progressives_must_face/

Could you read and comment on this article? I'd like your perspective.

If you are just going to call it "stupid" though, don't bother.

I am not sure what perspective you're looking for on an article that denies the existence of Islamophobia and whose premise is that Geller is a defendant and representative of free speech? My point of view is clear on both of those issues, so not sure what more you're looking for?

Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

You realize that is not a Muslim tradition, right? I don't really see the connection to this topic.

Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?

Is that "stupid" and fake as well?

http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/


Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17

"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.

The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.

According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operations are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”

The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."

It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.

It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And your absolute lack of compassion or care that millions of women and girls live under a religion that can and will kill them for writing poetry, daring to be raped, etc, as well as not allowing them basic human rights is stunning, and telling.

Your implication that people somehow condone the death of innocent beings is a frightening display of your inability to engage in simple comprehension. You demonstrate the very point of this thread in your attitude. A disgusting disinhibited double standard that only falls back on rhetoric, self-sympathy, and avoids any useful discourse.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/10/the_left_has_islam_all_wrong_bill_maher_pamela_geller_and_the_reality_progressives_must_face/

Could you read and comment on this article? I'd like your perspective.

If you are just going to call it "stupid" though, don't bother.