Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please post a video or interview with Chris Kyle glorifying killing? I want to see what you do

Yes, me to. I would love to see this as well.

As far as the memoir goes, ssoldiers had many issues. Watch your friend get blown to pieces or watch innocent kids get tortured and killed. Live in that for 9-12 months. Then talk. It is real. Their emotions are a rollercoaster and raw. I wish more people would write honest depictions of the war.

I am still shocked so many people are belittling a dead veteran soldier. So distasteful. What a shitty country we live in. The government deployed them. They did their job. Show him some respect.

This is standard liberal behavior when they have to 'deface' someone who threatened them in some way - and currently threatens their 'cause'.

Another example - White House outrage over Boehner inviting Netanyhahu over to speak with Congress. Hilarious considering this President's bypassing of Congress to create law. Liberals like it when THEY do it. But I warned them that they would not when the shoe was on the other foot

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen,

Your hero:

He drove cars at them at high speed to see them get scared: “Their high-pitched screams, coupled with sprints in the opposite direction, had me doubled over. Cheap thrills in Iraq were priceless,” he wrote in his memoir. He bragged about stealing from their homes against orders. He compared them to American welfare recipients in their dependency and inability to handle freedom.

“On the front of my arm, I had a crusader cross inked in,” he wrote. “I wanted everyone to know I was a Christian. I had it put in in red, for blood. I hated the damn savages I’d been fighting. I always will. They’ve taken so much from me.”

“I don’t shoot people with Korans — I’d like to, but I don’t.”

Can you please show me Chris Kyle saying this? If in writing, the context is needed. If on video, the whole interview.

His autobiography (if this link works, it's to the autobiography on Google Books):

http://tinyurl.com/l9ubwvx

Anonymous wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen,

Your hero:

He drove cars at them at high speed to see them get scared: “Their high-pitched screams, coupled with sprints in the opposite direction, had me doubled over. Cheap thrills in Iraq were priceless,” he wrote in his memoir. He bragged about stealing from their homes against orders. He compared them to American welfare recipients in their dependency and inability to handle freedom.

“On the front of my arm, I had a crusader cross inked in,” he wrote. “I wanted everyone to know I was a Christian. I had it put in in red, for blood. I hated the damn savages I’d been fighting. I always will. They’ve taken so much from me.”

“I don’t shoot people with Korans — I’d like to, but I don’t.”

Can you please show me Chris Kyle saying this? If in writing, the context is needed. If on video, the whole interview.

A lot of these quotes seem to lack context, i.e. that the area had been already evacuated so the only ones there were the true enemy - or those the enemy chose to wire up with explosives, use as decoys, etc.

I guess we can ask the guys who Obama have let out of Gitmo....

Anonymous wrote:I am married to a warrior. If you aren't one or don't love one, you will never understand. You are sheep! They are shepherds. Then there is the wolf! I don't want the wolf in my woods. I thank God for the shepherds. You should too! If it were not for them, we would have beheadings right here in the good ol USA! If it were not for them, you would not be able to voice your very ignorant opinion on this forum. BAAAAA

You have to think that way or you can't handle what your "warrior" is doing.

I have many family members in the armed services. I am thankful for their service. But it doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they say and do. It's called balance. Also very necessary.

May this poor man rest in peace. I appreciate his heroic efforts while deployed and helping others after.

So many suffer silently with PTSD since most people expect them to come home silently and go back to normal. Even if you don't agree with war, appreciate your vets a little more. Hatred like this turns these soldiers to drugs and alcohol. Maybe a little more compassion would help.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please post a video or interview with Chris Kyle glorifying killing? I want to see what you do

Yes, me to. I would love to see this as well.

As far as the memoir goes, ssoldiers had many issues. Watch your friend get blown to pieces or watch innocent kids get tortured and killed. Live in that for 9-12 months. Then talk. It is real. Their emotions are a rollercoaster and raw. I wish more people would write honest depictions of the war.

I am still shocked so many people are belittling a dead veteran soldier. So distasteful. What a shitty country we live in. The government deployed them. They did their job. Show him some respect.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Your hero:

He drove cars at them at high speed to see them get scared: “Their high-pitched screams, coupled with sprints in the opposite direction, had me doubled over. Cheap thrills in Iraq were priceless,” he wrote in his memoir. He bragged about stealing from their homes against orders. He compared them to American welfare recipients in their dependency and inability to handle freedom.

“On the front of my arm, I had a crusader cross inked in,” he wrote. “I wanted everyone to know I was a Christian. I had it put in in red, for blood. I hated the damn savages I’d been fighting. I always will. They’ve taken so much from me.”

“I don’t shoot people with Korans — I’d like to, but I don’t.”

Can someone please post a video or interview with Chris Kyle glorifying killing? I want to see what you do

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I saw both Selma and American Sniper and I enjoyed them BOTH. I think it is stupid to compare the two and I certainly would not criticize anyone for seeing one over the other. Frankly, I would hope that people would see both - they represent different experiences about being American. It is annoying that folks are always drawing these dumbass ideological lnes in the sand.

Interestingly enough, I am the DW of an Iraq vet and I would identify myself Liberal to Moderate. I am guess I am the oxymoron in the room. TBH, the thing that bothers me about Kyle (even before the movie) is his bravado about killing. Granted I am comparing him to my DH who has never mentioned how many folks he killed and would get downright insulted if you asked him. He took no pride in it and towards the end of his deployment realized that the enemies were men sent by their leaders to fight for an ideal. My DH does not glorify his time in Iraq and would not allow anyone else to fawn over him because of it. He did what he was ordered to do.

Um, Kyle didn't glorify himself. The troops around him named him the legend, the military and government awarded him. He was asked to speak multiple times. He was gunned down helping another Vet. It went to national news more after he died than before. The book sales went to soldier's families he wasn't able to save.

But yeah, compare him to your husband and Kyle does sound horrible.

Actually he did...I have seen him speak. But that's fine. You have the right to glorify him just like I have the right not to. I know many military folks, including my DH, so luckily for me I have many other vets to admire. Carry on though.

Hello pp - mine also does not talk about killing ( I doubt many military personnel do). I think the difference is, Chris Kyle became notorious whereas most others do their jobs in their quiet way. Ok. He had tremendous sniper skills, saved many lives, broke many records ( distance etc). His story was already 'out' as opposed to your or my people. He turned that notoriety into something useful that also shared, in a way I think many military members would like to - the savagery of the enemy that Americans have become I dont know, jaded to. What's happening in Syria was happening there and these guys and ladies saw things you can't 'unsee'. People can debate the war but I'm.pretty sure if I walked into a room.of refrigerated heads I would not personally feel bad about protecting my fellow troops from falling into the hands of the enemy, or the civilians who they also hoped would have better conditions than living under that kind of rule. They did not control the politics, but they were thrust into this situation and asked to do a job. No apology required for doing it to their best utmost.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I saw both Selma and American Sniper and I enjoyed them BOTH. I think it is stupid to compare the two and I certainly would not criticize anyone for seeing one over the other. Frankly, I would hope that people would see both - they represent different experiences about being American. It is annoying that folks are always drawing these dumbass ideological lnes in the sand.

Interestingly enough, I am the DW of an Iraq vet and I would identify myself Liberal to Moderate. I am guess I am the oxymoron in the room. TBH, the thing that bothers me about Kyle (even before the movie) is his bravado about killing. Granted I am comparing him to my DH who has never mentioned how many folks he killed and would get downright insulted if you asked him. He took no pride in it and towards the end of his deployment realized that the enemies were men sent by their leaders to fight for an ideal. My DH does not glorify his time in Iraq and would not allow anyone else to fawn over him because of it. He did what he was ordered to do.

Um, Kyle didn't glorify himself. The troops around him named him the legend, the military and government awarded him. He was asked to speak multiple times. He was gunned down helping another Vet. It went to national news more after he died than before. The book sales went to soldier's families he wasn't able to save.

But yeah, compare him to your husband and Kyle does sound horrible.

Actually he did...I have seen him speak. But that's fine. You have the right to glorify him just like I have the right not to. I know many military folks, including my DH, so luckily for me I have many other vets to admire. Carry on though.

Anonymous wrote:Well, I saw both Selma and American Sniper and I enjoyed them BOTH. I think it is stupid to compare the two and I certainly would not criticize anyone for seeing one over the other. Frankly, I would hope that people would see both - they represent different experiences about being American. It is annoying that folks are always drawing these dumbass ideological lnes in the sand.

Interestingly enough, I am the DW of an Iraq vet and I would identify myself Liberal to Moderate. I am guess I am the oxymoron in the room. TBH, the thing that bothers me about Kyle (even before the movie) is his bravado about killing. Granted I am comparing him to my DH who has never mentioned how many folks he killed and would get downright insulted if you asked him. He took no pride in it and towards the end of his deployment realized that the enemies were men sent by their leaders to fight for an ideal. My DH does not glorify his time in Iraq and would not allow anyone else to fawn over him because of it. He did what he was ordered to do.

Um, Kyle didn't glorify himself. The troops around him named him the legend, the military and government awarded him. He was asked to speak multiple times. He was gunned down helping another Vet. It went to national news more after he died than before. The book sales went to soldier's families he wasn't able to save.

But yeah, compare him to your husband and Kyle does sound horrible.

Well, I saw both Selma and American Sniper and I enjoyed them BOTH. I think it is stupid to compare the two and I certainly would not criticize anyone for seeing one over the other. Frankly, I would hope that people would see both - they represent different experiences about being American. It is annoying that folks are always drawing these dumbass ideological lnes in the sand.

Interestingly enough, I am the DW of an Iraq vet and I would identify myself Liberal to Moderate. I am guess I am the oxymoron in the room. TBH, the thing that bothers me about Kyle (even before the movie) is his bravado about killing. Granted I am comparing him to my DH who has never mentioned how many folks he killed and would get downright insulted if you asked him. He took no pride in it and towards the end of his deployment realized that the enemies were men sent by their leaders to fight for an ideal. My DH does not glorify his time in Iraq and would not allow anyone else to fawn over him because of it. He did what he was ordered to do.

Anonymous wrote:Some folks all pissed that American Sniper cleaned up at the box office this weekend and that we didn't all dutifully troop into the theatres to watch Selma like we were supposed to.

Don't worry. DCPS is bussing students to see Selma.

I go to a military center to get my medical care. Not only did the fact that we were at war (still are, - soon to be authorized per Obama's request to Congress ) not make a blip, but the injured will be a generation that lives with this the rest of their lives. Many are so young, there with their wives, girlfriends, babies or just their moms at their sides because they are babies themselves. I cannot convey to you what they have given - legs, scars, invisible wounds, no arms sometimes all of those. I am not sure they are asking for because it is so hard to know the appropriate way to respond interact besides as a nation give support for healing and recognition that they answered a call this country put to them. This movie went a little way to recognizing the horror, choices, burden and yes, pride in service which in the military is first and foremost to the buddy at your side. Your comments dont just come off anti Chris Kyle but really besmirching all these soldiers who deserve a little recognition and appreciation for what they and their families went through. Not to be called meatheads and stupid. How can you possibly be that nasty about human beings who sign their name on the dotted line and go where our president ( the president I assume you voted for ) orders and do the best job they can to fulfill the mission and protect the person next to them. The idea that it is self grandizing to talk about it is ridiculous. I wish more books were written with multiple perspectives so we can put together the big picture and remember america has been involved in her longest war and real people were involved. Whether happy, sad, defeated, excited, diaries, journals, poems, fiction, song - those who served have the right to comment and tell the story as much as every other American.

Anonymous wrote:

...and there's a scene that touches on the cowardly mindset of snipers. In the scene, Kyle wants to join the Marines on the ground while his fellow sniper refuses to go with him - the guy said that he likes his life and wants to live, so he just continued sniping from the rooftop.

With that statement it shows you really have no understanding of what snipers do.

+100 look up Carlos Hathcock and get true feeling for what a sniper does. Coward, hardly. It is disturbing you would make such a statement. What exactly is your background to have grounds to call someone who has seen combat a coward?

I didn't say that I thought they were cowards! I said that there was a scene in the movie that portrayed a guy that way.